If Greg Robinson wants to work on his craft during the CBA blackout, there are plenty of ways to do it.
Be it retired players and coaches... Lots of options work with.
Be it retired players and coaches... Lots of options work with.
Boudreau: Greg Robinson at Auburn: 4 run plays, 1 Protection, No Snap Count
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Him contacting Pace would be awesome. Or any other elite former LT would work too.
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Pendulum.
Coaches wanted to FORCE guys into the building every second of every day and a guy couldn't even take a vacation or attend one of these academies that would help them rehab or build speed or might be better or different than the coaches in the building.
Rather than work for a solution that would still benefit ROOKIES and thus benefit all players since the better rookies get, the better it works for all players, the UNION negotiated like a standard union and negotiated for existing members on their behalf only.
Player development wasn't remotely considered. So the pushback was substantial and they got what they wanted.
Now, new players are harmed. UDFA players as well as very successful players from systems that don't translate to the Pro game very well are devalued due to the reduced amount of time rookies can be exposed to coaches.
We've seen it with our OL. They focused on schools with coaching that put players ahead of coaching curve. The exception was Greg Robinson whom our OL Coach sees as having literally greater talent than the Hall of Famer he coached. So, that's what we're talking about. Short of having All-Star talent or greater, coaching becomes a huge factor leaving college because of the current CBA.
We WILL see significant changes to the CBA as well as the Pro game due to how the college game has evolved. I mean with college coaches getting $7M+ per year to win with systems that we know just don't work at the Pro level on offense AND defense, btw, the game can't sustain itself on this model. Heck, just with QBs alone, the game is at a crisis state. It's more of a passing game than ever and the college game is sending fewer QBs than ever to the Pros capable of starting and winning games. Other positions aren't having that issue to that severity...yet, but I can see it happening.
The players need to work with the league for the betterment of the game as well as the players.
So, yeah, the next CBA had better be more forward looking with respect to things like contact, classroom work, coaching and non-contact drills, etc if they really want to help players.
Even if they restrict the number of players coaches can see at any one time so we don't end up in the pseudo "voluntary" trap. They can work together to figure out a solution if they want to.
The game is on the line.
Coaches wanted to FORCE guys into the building every second of every day and a guy couldn't even take a vacation or attend one of these academies that would help them rehab or build speed or might be better or different than the coaches in the building.
Rather than work for a solution that would still benefit ROOKIES and thus benefit all players since the better rookies get, the better it works for all players, the UNION negotiated like a standard union and negotiated for existing members on their behalf only.
Player development wasn't remotely considered. So the pushback was substantial and they got what they wanted.
Now, new players are harmed. UDFA players as well as very successful players from systems that don't translate to the Pro game very well are devalued due to the reduced amount of time rookies can be exposed to coaches.
We've seen it with our OL. They focused on schools with coaching that put players ahead of coaching curve. The exception was Greg Robinson whom our OL Coach sees as having literally greater talent than the Hall of Famer he coached. So, that's what we're talking about. Short of having All-Star talent or greater, coaching becomes a huge factor leaving college because of the current CBA.
We WILL see significant changes to the CBA as well as the Pro game due to how the college game has evolved. I mean with college coaches getting $7M+ per year to win with systems that we know just don't work at the Pro level on offense AND defense, btw, the game can't sustain itself on this model. Heck, just with QBs alone, the game is at a crisis state. It's more of a passing game than ever and the college game is sending fewer QBs than ever to the Pros capable of starting and winning games. Other positions aren't having that issue to that severity...yet, but I can see it happening.
The players need to work with the league for the betterment of the game as well as the players.
So, yeah, the next CBA had better be more forward looking with respect to things like contact, classroom work, coaching and non-contact drills, etc if they really want to help players.
Even if they restrict the number of players coaches can see at any one time so we don't end up in the pseudo "voluntary" trap. They can work together to figure out a solution if they want to.
The game is on the line.
12intheBox
Legend
Boston Ram
Hall of Fame
Quite a strong statement from Coach B. I hope it plays out that GRob is better than Roaf.
I believe that was the second year in a row that the "Hags got caught doing that!
And Kyle Long, reportedly, Tweeted, after word, "GOOD RIDANCE!"
LazyWinker
Pro Bowler
They could just fire Coach B. and rehire him once training camp begins. Some coaches lack creativity, I tell you.
Great idea.
IF the CBA says none of the coaches on the team can teach the player, how about a "hand picked" coach (picked by Boudreau) who is not on the team? Can he teach the player? Why not?
And, as far as linemen from certain college schemes not being ready because of those schemes (spread, for example), guess you just have to adapt and draft from schools that run NFL-type schemes.
I'm thinking that's what the Rams figured out between last year and this year.
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A lil presumptive, wouldn't you say?
don't these guys make enough that they could forgo a few Maui/Cancun trips until their mid 30's? I mean, is that such a huge sacrifice? Maybe wait until their 30's when systems are not so new and confusing? What's the deal with not being able to put off a few perks until this football business is wrapped up? Isn't a salary a sacrifice that can be dealt with? Give your team 10+ years of service, live like a king the rest of your life...seems pretty simple really.....
manmaderam
The one and only
I don't think it's totally about the luxury of it. A LOT of pros have said that their bodies just need the time away from the game to heal. And considering the stress the game puts on it, I don't doubt it. This ain't the same game that allowed a guy to come into camp out of shape and then left him enough time that he actually had to get a job after the season.