Bonds to get a statue at Oracle

[RamFan503]

Not sure why any of this matters to this board but whatevs.

 

[Tano]

Full disclosure Barry and I went to school together. I played ball with his little brother and Barry was always kind to me. We knew his family growing up. The son of a major league. Ball player is always difficult. He didn’t know he handled it well but very is a sincere person And a very giving person. maybe strongly opinionated ones on this board have no idea about.

Albert Pulhols couldn’t hold Bonds jock. From age 15 on Bonds was the greatest athlete I ever saw. Football basketball and baseball. His dad made him drop one sport senior year so he dropped Football. But I believe he could have gone pro as a receiver. He was a natural.

And say what you will, but he respects the game and he respects others.

Maybe some guys in glass houses shouldn’t come so strong with their judgements.

It's called public perception.

Bonds may have been a great guy outside baseball but he carried himself off as a dick in the public's eye.

Kershaw Freeman Betts Pujols all carry themselves as really good guys in the publics eye but for all I know they are dicks outside baseball

I really like how Payton Manning carry's himself in the publics eye.

Tom Brady, on the other hand, was a whiny bitch who always complained to the refs whenever he got hit. I was so glad he got penalized for complaining to the ref when his lip was bleeding. He finally got his comeuppance.

From what I hear, he might be a good guy outside football. But I will always hate his whiny bitchiness.

Plus he wears Uggs.

 

[fearsomefour]

He was also an arrogant fuckstick who couldn’t deal with not having attention. He didn’t need to do the cream and the clear to be a HOFer. Griffey Jr. was clean and beloved. Albert Pujols was clean and beloved, even though he was never a media guy, much like Bonds.

Bonds was an arrogant, greedy attention whore.

Clean?
In that era?
Maybe....possible but not likely.
A lot of steroid use in baseball was not to get big like Bonds and McGuire, but, for a lot of guys it would be for recovery.
You'd also have to mess up pretty badly to get caught.
A lot of guys were using in that era.

 

[PARAM]

As a Yankee fan, I couldn't stand Clemens or A Rod and was totally disappointed in Pettitte. The difference between the 3 in my minds eye was Pettitte came clean and those other two will deny it till the day they die. Why? Because they know it would taint their accomplishments. THEY KNOW.

Like Dieter says, before using, Bonds was the best player in the game. I'd say at least one of the best.

86-98 (Age 21-33) Runs 1364; Hits 1917; Doubles 403; Triples 63; HR 411; RBI 1216; SB 445; BB 1357; Avg .290; OB% .411; SLG .556; OPS .966

99-07 (Age 34-42) Runs 863; Hits 1018; Doubles 198; Triples 14; HR 351; RBI 780; SB 69; BB 1201; Avg .316; OB% .505; SLG .712; OPS 1.217

He found the fountain of youth but previous to that he was damn good. He averaged 32 homers a season, 94 RBI and hit .290. That's HOF material there. Barry's 3 best WAR seasons came at age 36, 37 and 39. Come on!! His godfather, Willie Mays, was the best ballplayer I ever saw. His best WAR seasons came at age 23, 27, 31, 32, 33 and 34. You don't have seasons like Bonds did at that age. It's just not natural. And clearly, it wasn't. You can't strike the 34 - 42 age years from Bonds' career and put him in the HOF. So they don't put him in at all.

 

[PARAM]

86-98 (Age 21-33) Runs 1364; Hits 1917; Doubles 403; Triples 63; HR 411; RBI 1216; SB 445; BB 1357; Avg .290; OB% .411; SLG .556; OPS .966

99-07 (Age 34-42) Runs 863; Hits 1018; Doubles 198; Triples 14; HR 351; RBI 780; SB 69; BB 1201; Avg .316; OB% .505; SLG .712; OPS 1.217

Season averages:

86-98 (Age 21-33)

Runs 105
Hits 147
Doubles 31
Triples 5
HR runs 32
RBI 94
SB 34
BB 104

99-07 (Age 34-42)

Runs 96
Hits 113
Doubles 22
Triples 1
HR 39
RBI 87
SB 8
BB 133

It's humanly impossible for men to get younger but he managed to do it......with a little help. Give him his bronze statue. He deserves it. He put asses in the seats in SF and every other park where the Giants played. That is why people looked the other way. And that is the true hypocrisy of MLB.