Baker is..

[Ellard80]

People need to slow their roll a bit.... Baker played great yesterday.

But he has had great games before... he had a 5 TD pass performance before and a 400-yard 4 td game before.

The issue with him has always been consistency and injuries.

 

[oldnotdead]

Trading would be strictly at Matt's request. Realistically I think he would retire. He would have a long very profitable career in broadcasting.

 

[PhillyRam]

Great Photo!

Is that 1950's Rams - Redskins? Now those are Throwback Uniforms!

Found it on an NFL Facebook group I am a member of. And yeah its the Skins. And I think it's Tank Younger.

 

[Allen2McVay]

People need to slow their roll a bit.... Baker played great yesterday.

But he has had great games before... he had a 5 TD pass performance before and a 400-yard 4 td game before.

The issue with him has always been consistency and injuries.

No ... No ... No!

The Rams had a big (and enjoyable) win yesterday against the most disappointing team in the NFL in 2022.

It's time to move-on from Stafford and Donald; and roll with Mayfield and Murchison. Get with the Program!

 

[Kupped]

Those are the two guys I see going. Higbee proved yesterday how important a dynamic TE can be to this offense. Problem os Higbee only has a game like that 2 or 3 times a yr and then is mostly invisible most of the season with not much of an impact.

Move him and add a young TE early that can be more dynamic.

Floyd just costs too much so move him or restructure him somehow so you gain some cap room.

Was thinking Wagner would be gone, but now I can see them bringing him back if he wants to keep playing.

Restructure Ramsey if they see him as a guy that can play 5 or 6 more yrs, eventually moving to Safety. Trade him if you feel you can get top value for him.

There's not a breakdown of it, player by player.. but at Over The Cap... they have a restructure potential page.. It suggests the Rams could open up as much as $97 million!!
That sounds crazy.. but it does leave open the possibility of the Rams going big one more time, imo.

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

overthecap.com

 

[Allen2McVay]

There is a Breakdown of Dead-$ and Cap Savings on Over-The-Cap for Cutting and Trading players in 2023, including doing so with pre-June 1 and post-June 1 designations. Some moves make sense. Others do not.

 

[Merlin]

I agree with a lot of what you post - not sure Baker is a perfect scheme fit.

McVay's scheme with the Rams is about getting the ball to WR's and Baker seems to have problems with doing that consistently over his career.

All schemes are about getting the ball to receivers. Historically the WCO is a moving scheme, with boots and misdirection. Baker has great mobility and you feel that when he is out there. But he also has the arm to use the entire field which is something McVay likes to do in his wrinkle of the scheme. So he is an ideal QB for what McVay does I think.

Just saying he is young with no health concerns. Not long ago we were discussing Stafford's elbow. Also he is old. Baker is not. So I think it warrants discussion is all.

Same with all our highly paid stars. When you have our model and it crashes, there is now the consideration of value vs production with all of them.

A normal head coach may be willing to stand pat and make another go of it. I don't see McVay being that guy. If he returns. I think all possibilities are going to be analyzed and out of that the stage is set for a dramatic offseason. The kind that shocks casual observers, but we of course are not casual observers.

 

[dieterbrock]

Baker is....


....going to be playing for either the Dolphins, Raiders, Titans, Jets or Bucs next season.....
the Rams will have a *new* #2 QB next year and it will not be Wolf or Perk. I'd be curious to see what becomes of Mike White pending what the Jets "brain trust" comes up with

 

[Kupped]

Baker is....


....going to be playing for either the Dolphins, Raiders, Titans, Jets or Bucs next season.....
the Rams will have a *new* #2 QB next year and it will not be Wolf or Perk. I'd be curious to see what becomes of Mike White pending what the Jets "brain trust" comes up with

If he plays close to yesterday the rest of the way, agreed.

I would put Washington down as an option as well.

One of his issues has been consistency.. he’s had some excellent games. I think the key for him is discipline in his play.

 

[BonifayRam]

I think we are getting ahead of ourselves with Mayfield… But.. I can see why.

Starting QB’s are hard to find… in Mayfield we have an experienced / young starter that could be our starter for many years. Longer than what is projected with Stafford.

How do we keep him?

Whatever it takes. Stafford #9 might have one full season in his worn battered body.... that's it.

Make the smart decision here for the team's future & get your minds out of the present.

As I said in my other post. I see a special MAGIC here between this young #17 & McVay.

 

[PhillyRam]

There's not a breakdown of it, player by player.. but at Over The Cap... they have a restructure potential page.. It suggests the Rams could open up as much as $97 million!!
That sounds crazy.. but it does leave open the possibility of the Rams going big one more time, imo.

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

overthecap.com

Hopefully the YouTube contract adds some additional cap space.

 

[Ellard80]

All schemes are about getting the ball to receivers. Historically the WCO is a moving scheme, with boots and misdirection. Baker has great mobility and you feel that when he is out there. But he also has the arm to use the entire field which is something McVay likes to do in his wrinkle of the scheme. So he is an ideal QB for what McVay does I think.

Just saying he is young with no health concerns. Not long ago we were discussing Stafford's elbow. Also he is old. Baker is not. So I think it warrants discussion is all.

Same with all our highly paid stars. When you have our model and it crashes, there is now the consideration of value vs production with all of them.

A normal head coach may be willing to stand pat and make another go of it. I don't see McVay being that guy. If he returns. I think all possibilities are going to be analyzed and out of that the stage is set for a dramatic offseason. The kind that shocks casual observers, but we of course are not casual observers.

I think bakers mobility is overstated because he is short - so people think he is more mobile then he really is

here is something to consider.

Matt Stafford 40 time 4.81
Baker Mayfield 40 time 4.84

 

[OregonRamsFan]

People need to slow their roll a bit.... Baker played great yesterday.

But he has had great games before... he had a 5 TD pass performance before and a 400-yard 4 td game before.

The issue with him has always been consistency and injuries.

Absolutely correct about Baker. So we should get him on the cheap! That’s a win!!

 

[Merlin]

I think bakers mobility is overstated because he is short - so people think he is more mobile then he really is

here is something to consider.

Matt Stafford 40 time 4.81
Baker Mayfield 40 time 4.84

I don't care about 40 times. Stafford is a guy who can move but doesn't like to. He likes to win from the pocket. Goff is the same way. Baker is much more of the moving type wco favor. That is all I'm saying. He has that working for him with the age and younger body.

Stafford is the better QB. No doubt about it. But the age and elbow concerns are real factors here.

This is something the Rams are analyzing right now I assure you.

 

[OregonRamsFan]

I think bakers mobility is overstated because he is short - so people think he is more mobile then he really is

here is something to consider.

Matt Stafford 40 time 4.81
Baker Mayfield 40 time 4.84

Well that was many moons ago for Stafford. Plus elusive and fast are two different things. Just my take and no offense meant.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Baker is ... Unfortunately ...

... playing himself into a good opportunity to start somewhere else in 2023.

There was a comment attributed to Mayfield that was referred to by the broadcast-team yesterday where Mayfield said how much he was enjoying his time with the Rams but if he wanted to start next season, he would probably need to sign elsewhere.

 

[fanotodd]

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I would not be surprised to see us deal AD to Pittsburgh; I've thought about making a mock draft that gives us two firsts and a second from Pittsburgh for AD.

No sooner had those types of trades become commonplace, the window could be closing due to the wilson (broncos) and watson (browns) deals.

Given the stage of his career, would you take a first and two 2nds?

 

[fanotodd]

AD is safe.
Stafford is safe.
Kupp is safe.
Obviously, just my opinion.

The difference with those guys from some of the others mentioned is that these three carried the Rams to a Super Bowl win and are still ballers.

Those guys plus Ramsey have 2 years of guaranteed employment due to their contracts. The question is where? The problem is the cost for the Rams to move them.

Based on THAT, they probably stay Rams.
…but you never know. It didn’t stop them from dumping gurley, or trading goff.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I would not be surprised to see us deal AD to Pittsburgh; I've thought about making a mock draft that gives us two firsts and a second from Pittsburgh for AD.

I wish you were the Steelers' GM ... and a salary-cap-magician.

 

[Ellard80]

Well that was many moons ago for Stafford. Plus elusive and fast are two different things. Just my take and no offense meant.

baker Mayfield is not all that elusive.... he is just average mobility wise.

I get what y'all are saying - i just have seen him play alot in Cleveland.

When he bootlegs, he might be a little quicker than the average qb... but not by much.