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[RamFan503]

I don't hate this deal. I'm guessing this is where the market for 3rd receivers will be this season. I'm also guessing that McVay is going to really change this offense. I also think he is going to scheme for TuTu. I'm thinking TE "picks" with an occasional long ball thrown in. The guy catches pretty much everything he can get his hands on. Our O-line should be cohesive and allow for some longer shots downfield at a higher rate. Then we will have to pay him 20 mil next year to keep him. Of course maybe at that point we get a good comp pick for him.

Yeah it's surprising - confusing even - but I'm excited to see if they have a plan for the speedster.

 

[Neil039]

By useful you mean only have 500 yards as a starter with double the snaps of Tutu who had 562 yards?

YEP

 

[AZRams4Life]

By useful you mean only have 500 yards as a starter with double the snaps of Tutu who had 562 yards?

Some people just don't seem to get it. We clearly have way too many GM's here. The WR room was getting a bit clogged. When used, Tutu was highly effective. The contract says he is going to get more use. He has done everything asked of him and with an expanded role, he is going to shine. Clean route running, nice hands, knows when to get down, and while not a "hard nosed" blocker, sometimes proper placement can be very effective and I believe he can do so. Obviously, the powers that be have seen enough of him over the last few years to better determine his value than the keyboard coaches.

 

[Neil039]

Some people just don't seem to get it. We clearly have way too many GM's here. The WR room was getting a bit clogged. When used, Tutu was highly effective. The contract says he is going to get more use. He has done everything asked of him and with an expanded role, he is going to shine. Clean route running, nice hands, knows when to get down, and while not a "hard nosed" blocker, sometimes proper placement can be very effective and I believe he can do so. Obviously, the powers that be have seen enough of him over the last few years to better determine his value than the keyboard coaches.

What a moronic take. Too many GMs. Seriously, you must have been brought up with Common Core Math. Sneed over paid for a player his coach hasn't used. BUT HEY YOU MUST BE RIGHT SINCE YOU TOLD US SO!

 

[dieterbrock]

By useful you mean only have 500 yards as a starter with double the snaps of Tutu who had 562 yards?

100% more useful being he led all Rams receivers in TD's with 7, which was also 2nd highest on the team period.
How many TD's did Tutu score?

 

[dieterbrock]

When used, Tutu was highly effective

Highly effective?? Tutu has only 4 career TD receptions in his 4 years, 0 last year.

 

[PhillyRam]

100% more useful being he led all Rams receivers in TD's with 7, which was also 2nd highest on the team period.
How many TD's did Tutu score?

I will say this, without his late bomb against the Niners in week 3, last year probably ends with us not being in the playoffs and maybe having a new QB this year.

 

[DzRams]

100% more useful being he led all Rams receivers in TD's with 7, which was also 2nd highest on the team period.
How many TD's did Tutu score?

Yes, TDs are one measure of usefulness but not the only measure.

Puka had a 1000 yards and only 3 TDs but no one would say he's not very useful given the low TD number. Same with Trey McBride on Arizona with 1150 yards and only 2 TDs.

So no, not 100% more useful with fewer yards and double the snaps.

 

[AZRams4Life]

Highly effective?? Tutu has only 4 career TD receptions in his 4 years, 0 last year.

He catches the ball when he gets his chances. TD receptions standing alone is not nearly a full measure of effectiveness, positive yards is. He gets open and has a solid catch rate %. I'm not a big betting person, but I'd be willing to bet that they work him in more and he will produce.

 

[AZRams4Life]

What a moronic take. Too many GMs. Seriously, you must have been brought up with Common Core Math. Sneed over paid for a player his coach hasn't used. BUT HEY YOU MUST BE RIGHT SINCE YOU TOLD US SO!

A moronic take? Brought up with Common Core Math? NO. I was, however, brought up with common sense and manners, both of which you appear to be lacking.

 

[dieterbrock]

Yes, TDs are one measure of usefulness but not the only measure.

Puka had a 1000 yards and only 3 TDs but no one would say he's not very useful given the low TD number. Same with Trey McBride on Arizona with 1150 yards and only 2 TDs.

So no, not 100% more useful with fewer yards and double the snaps.

He had 0 touchdowns. Demarcus was Stafford's go-to guy in the EZ. There is no comparison. And please, don't embarrass yourself with the goalpost move to Puka. The conversation was comparing usefulness of 2 players, and Demarcus was far more useful. Its not even comparable.

 

[gogoat1]

What a moronic take. Too many GMs. Seriously, you must have been brought up with Common Core Math. Sneed over paid for a player his coach hasn't used. BUT HEY YOU MUST BE RIGHT SINCE YOU TOLD US SO!

What are you doing ?

 

[dieterbrock]

He catches the ball when he gets his chances. TD receptions standing alone is not nearly a full measure of effectiveness, positive yards is. He gets open and has a solid catch rate %. I'm not a big betting person, but I'd be willing to bet that they work him in more and he will produce.

You said highly effective. Not scoring a single touchdown despite have 60+ targets.
The name of the game is scoring more points than the opponent, not comparing who has more yards

 

[Neil039]

A moronic take? Brought up with Common Core Math? NO. I was, however, brought up with common sense and manners, both of which you appear to be lacking.

Ok Richard, your common sense is to over pay a marginal player for 1 year who hasn't made a huge impact statistically, can't block down field (a requirement for Ram WRs), and hasn't shown consistency in the return game.

You're the one who took a swipe with your post. So shove your pathetic manners and obvious limited common sense!

 

[DzRams]

He had 0 touchdowns. Demarcus was Stafford's go-to guy in the EZ. There is no comparison. And please, don't embarrass yourself with the goalpost move to Puka. The conversation was comparing usefulness of 2 players, and Demarcus was far more useful. Its not even comparable.

I understand he had 0 TDs. Again, TDs are one measure of production, but not the only measurement. Amount of yards is another valid measure of production which is why Puka and McBride are relevant. I'm sorry if your mind can't grasp the analogy...that's what would be embarrassing.

Tutu and DRob were useful in different ways. The Rams have obviously prioritized Tutu's usefulness more. We'll see if that decision turns out to be right.

 

[WestCoastRam]

One way of thinking of signing Tutu is that we have to rebuild our entire WR room this year after Puka. That's what McSnead has said.

This is a ground up rebuild and Tutu may need to be the back wall of the building here while we look for the flashier front and some good pieces to hold up the side of the building. Puka's a great looking roof (but you gotta worry about leaks).

Okay, kill me, over this analogy.

Rams gonna need FA, draft, and possibly after draft FA to rebuild this room, it's gonna take all of it.

It's gonna be a project. Expect delays.

 

[dieterbrock]

I will say this, without his late bomb against the Niners in week 3, last year probably ends with us not being in the playoffs and maybe having a new QB this year.

And without Tyler Johnson's big catch against the Seahawks in overtime, they might not have won the game. I guess he gets 10 mill also?

 

[AZRams4Life]

He had 0 touchdowns. Demarcus was Stafford's go-to guy in the EZ. There is no comparison. And please, don't embarrass yourself with the goalpost move to Puka. The conversation was comparing usefulness of 2 players, and Demarcus was far more useful. Its not even comparable.

Ok Richard, your common sense is to over pay a marginal player for 1 year who hasn't made a huge impact statistically, can't block down field (a requirement for Ram WRs), and hasn't shown consistency in the return game.

You're the one who took a swipe with your post. So shove your pathetic manners and obvious limited common sense!

The one thing that you two brilliant fellows with your personal attacks are forgetting. Tutu was the one signed to the contract by those that actually matter and make decisions. But, that's right, you get paid for your opinions and everyone else is embarrassing themselves or have moronic takes. Ring in the circus music because the dieter/Neil clown show has arrived.

 

[DzRams]

I don't hate this deal. I'm guessing this is where the market for 3rd receivers will be this season. I'm also guessing that McVay is going to really change this offense. I also think he is going to scheme for TuTu. I'm thinking TE "picks" with an occasional long ball thrown in. The guy catches pretty much everything he can get his hands on. Our O-line should be cohesive and allow for some longer shots downfield at a higher rate. Then we will have to pay him 20 mil next year to keep him. Of course maybe at that point we get a good comp pick for him.

Yeah it's surprising - confusing even - but I'm excited to see if they have a plan for the speedster.

I agree with all of this. I would add, though, that in observing that McVay will change the offense, I believe that includes using Tutu in shorter routes from the slot in addition to the deep shots.

 

[dieterbrock]

I understand he had 0 TDs. Again, TDs are one measure of production, but not the only measurement. Amount of yards is another valid measure of production which is why Puka and McBride are relevant. I'm sorry if your mind can't grasp the analogy...that's what would be embarrassing.

Tutu and DRob were useful in different ways. The Rams have obviously prioritized Tutu's usefulness more. We'll see if that decision turns out to be right.

Ok well you keep score by amount of yards and I'll worry about the score.
Theres also a reason why Demarcus had significantly more snaps, because he's more capable of run blocking. So in addition to being more useful scoring points, he was more useful in blocking while Tutu was on the sideline blocking nothing
Puka is not relevant because he is infinitely more useful than Demarcus and Tutu combined. If you really need to understand why then you are lost