Arch Manning and Matt Stafford: Rams succession plan

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Also keep in mind that Arch's dad, who some say was the best athlete in the family, had an unfortunate neck injury that derailed his career before it even started. So I wouldnt be surprised if Arch has an exceptional season and is the clear cut #1 overall that the thought changes to not to risk losing a career by staying in school
 

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It's so difficult to get a franchise-QB. The dream is a young stud ... Day-1-starter ... on a rookie contract.

It does happen, and I can dream with the best of them. If you guys knew my Boobie / Booty thread fantasies,
I would be banned from this Forum ... and I would Completely Understand.


My Primary Future Quarterback Dream for the Rams, is a bit different though.

It revolves around the next Matthew Stafford situation ... and ... It's Out There! Just kind of far-out-there.
If you squint, drink some liquor and ... maybe ... smoke a joint, You too can see it!

Joe Burrow is an elite-QB, that had a terrific season in 2024 but his team was not good enough to make the playoffs. Two more seasons of great play on a below-average, non-playoff-team, and Burrow will be 30. Personally, I think it's realistic (not likely) that Burrow wants out after the 2026 season.

A number of teams (many?) might be interested but it may take a Proactive, Forward-Thinking, Aggressive Organization to make it happen. The McVay / Snead Rams (with Kroenke and Demoff approval) have been THAT type of organization.

OK ... Back to the Boobie and Booty Threads!
 

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The only thing for certain is none of us have a clue if he declares or not. Anything else is a guess.
Nor if he’s any good. Nor if McSnead even likes/wants him. It could be any number of other college QBs that they prefer and want instead.

So many of these college QBs are overhyped and go nowhere. Others come out of nowhere. Ward, Daniel’s, Nix, Penix, Burrow, Allen, etc were not even on the radar for top picks and franchise QBs prior to their final college season. Maybe once we get half way thru this coming season and see who’s actually made the step up and is good - then we can start talking. For now, it’s ridiculous media/fan speculation junk.
 

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Nor if he’s any good. Nor if McSnead even likes/wants him. It could be any number of other college QBs that they prefer and want instead.

So many of these college QBs are overhyped and go nowhere. Others come out of nowhere. Ward, Daniel’s, Nix, Penix, Burrow, Allen, etc were not even on the radar for top picks and franchise QBs prior to their final college season. Maybe once we get half way thru this coming season and see who’s actually made the step up and is good - then we can start talking. For now, it’s ridiculous media/fan speculation junk.
I think we saw enough last year that when you add that to the bloodlines there's reason to believe in the kid. Plus what he showed coming out of high school and all the scouting priewatching and hyping him.
 

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Nor if he’s any good. Nor if McSnead even likes/wants him. It could be any number of other college QBs that they prefer and want instead.

So many of these college QBs are overhyped and go nowhere. Others come out of nowhere. Ward, Daniel’s, Nix, Penix, Burrow, Allen, etc were not even on the radar for top picks and franchise QBs prior to their final college season. Maybe once we get half way thru this coming season and see who’s actually made the step up and is good - then we can start talking. For now, it’s ridiculous media/fan speculation junk.
I like that McShay added on his list Sawyer Robertson from Baylor. I mentioned him last year during the draft. He wasn't coming out, but his highlights were eye opening.

He is the kind of kid who could come out of nowhere and end up in the first round or a guy you get in rd 2 or 3 and could be come something after sitting a year.


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If I was Arch I'd stay in college through my senior year and be single the entire time for the sorority parties.
 

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I like that McShay added on his list Sawyer Robertson from Baylor. I mentioned him last year during the draft. He wasn't coming out, but his highlights were eye opening.

He is the kind of kid who could come out of nowhere and end up in the first round or a guy you get in rd 2 or 3 and could be come something after sitting a year.
Yeah he is a really interesting prospect. I like his pocket presence first off, also yes he's athletic (looks like he could play wideout) but a lot of dudes have athleticism but lack the instincts of when is the best time to run. He's wired right in that way. Kid knows when to do it which magnifies the wheels I think.

Only question I have with him is his arm strength. He throws an accurate and catchable ball, but most of them seem to float a bit so what does he look like throwing the deep outs in four minute when that arm's hanging from a busy day in the pocket.
 

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Also keep in mind that Arch's dad, who some say was the best athlete in the family, had an unfortunate neck injury that derailed his career before it even started. So I wouldnt be surprised if Arch has an exceptional season and is the clear cut #1 overall that the thought changes to not to risk losing a career by staying in school
I think about 20 of us have said the same thing about him coming out next year in this thread alone. There IS a scenario where he could depending on the season. Just waiting for somebody to blast you for having the same opinion, seems like everybody has been.
 

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I think about 20 of us have said the same thing about him coming out next year in this thread alone. There IS a scenario where he could depending on the season. Just waiting for somebody to blast you for having the same opinion, seems like everybody has been.
Bottom line, nobody knows. Will just have to let it all play out
 

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Will depend on if a team can trade up to that first pick before he declares. Not sure the dates for those deadlines are, but teams can agree to a trade before the league year starts. So if a team he likes, secures that top pick (assuming he is a slam dunk for the first pick), he probably comes out.
 
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Will depend on if a team can trade up to that first pick before he declares. Not sure the dates for those deadlines are, but teams can agree to a trade before the league year starts. So if a team he likes, secures that top pick (assuming he is a slam dunk for the first pick), he probably comes out.

It would be real hard for this situation to fall our way. In theory anyone bad enough to "earn" the 1st overall pick is in dire need of a young Franchise Quarterback. However, if one of these poor teams is faced with THIS equation, it can happen:

1. Hold on to 1st overall pick, Arch doesn't come out. Draft Allar or Klubnik or Nussmeier.

OR:

2. Tell Arch you'll trade his rights to Rams, team receives from Rams TWO 2026 1st Rounders, 2027 1st Rounder and change (Stetson Bennett?)

Hopefully Atlanta stinks and their pick is as high as possible (obviously). Im fixin for our pick to be 32.

The other less likelier thing we would need to happen is have a good team that's not looking to change Quarterbacks (like a Chargers or Bengals) to suffer a season ending injury to QB or other major players that gives them a freak number one overall pick scenario, where they remain with their already great QB's (Herbert and Burrow) while taking the Rams THREE 1st Round picks bag.

The problem with THIS scenario is Cleveland is also holding two 2026 1st Rounders and their picks are likely to be higher than ours.

Of course, Arch is telling teams it's Rams or staying in school, take your pick.

And yes, if we win the Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford I'm STILL making this trade for Arch Manning.
 
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It would be real hard for this situation to fall our way. In theory anyone bad enough to "earn" the 1st overall pick is in dire need of a young Franchise Quarterback. However, if one of these poor teams is faced with THIS equation, it can happen:

1. Hold on to 1st overall pick, Arch doesn't come out. Draft Allar or Klubnik or Nussmeier.

OR:

2. Tell Arch you'll trade his rights to Rams, team receives from Rams TWO 2026 1st Rounders, 2027 1st Rounder and change (Stetson Bennett?)

Hopefully Atlanta stinks and their pick is as high as possible (obviously). Im fixin for our pick to be 32.

The other less likelier thing we would need to happen is have a good team that's not looking to change Quarterbacks (like a Chargers or Bengals) to suffer a season ending injury to QB or other major players that gives them a freak number one overall pick scenario, where they remain with their already great QB's (Herbert and Burrow) while taking the Rams THREE 1st Round picks bag.

The problem with THIS scenario is Cleveland is also holding two 2026 1st Rounders and their picks are likely to be higher than ours.

Of course, Arch is telling teams it's Rams or staying in school, take your pick.

And yes, if we win the Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford I'm STILL making this trade for Arch Manning.
Yeah, I am not counting on Manning coming here. I am leaning towards taking a QB in rd one or two depending on the depth of the draft and whatever Stafford does.

Not sure they trade up into the top 5 for a guy as there may not be much difference between a guy taken at 5 vs a guy taken at 25. Kind of like this year with Dart vs Ward....just more QBs available to pick.
 

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I think the Falcons pick will be the key to whether the Rams can trade up for the #1 pick.
I have no doubt Arch would want to engineer landing with the Rams… it’s too perfect of a situation not to.