Allen Robinson II

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Odell is not a slam dunk get, depending on how AR and Jefferson assimilat.

We’ve got time before Odell can see the field so let’s see what our current guys can do.
 

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Disagree with “need” on OBJ if things trend well.

Healthy Van? Integrated Robinson? Growing Skow?

If they get improved line play and a better RB situation… OBJ will be more of a “want.”
 

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Disagree with “need” on OBJ if things trend well.

Healthy Van? Integrated Robinson? Growing Skow?

If they get improved line play and a better RB situation… OBJ will be more of a “want.”

It's fine you feel that way, but with much the same roster as last year, OBj was an incredible difference maker. I see Van Jeff as pretty decent trade bait next year if we can get OBj back under contract. Pretty hard to beat a line-up consisting of Kupp, Robinson & OBj.
 

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It's fine you feel that way, but with much the same roster as last year, OBj was an incredible difference maker. I see Van Jeff as pretty decent trade bait next year if we can get OBj back under contract. Pretty hard to beat a line-up consisting of Kupp, Robinson & OBj.
There was no Robinson…
Van was playing hurt….
Skow was a rookie and primarily on special teams.
Powell wasn’t even on the roster at this point and was never part of the offense.

It’s a much different roster.

And Van is cheap for one more year on a team that needs bargains.
 

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What about Odell?
Not bagging on Odell, but he is a stint compared to Watkins in the sense that Watkins actually played an entire season with the Rams beginning to end. OBJ came along for the ride more than halfway. Which is why I didn’t bring him up, but yes the sample size shows that OBJ is a good red zone guy, but I feel with ARob being utilized and the return of Van there might be no need for an injured OBJ…He did what we had to, but he isn’t a requirement to win another super bowl if we do get that far…
 

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There was no Robinson…
Van was playing hurt….
Skow was a rookie and primarily on special teams.
Powell wasn’t even on the roster at this point and was never part of the offense.

It’s a much different roster.

And Van is cheap for one more year on a team that needs bargains.

Did I say WR roster, ... NO. I said much the same roster, ... as in general. If OBj passes a vigorous physical, I have no reason to discount his continued value. OBj can be had for cheap in 2022, 2023 & beyond is still questionable.
Burns can also carry a cheap CAP hit for 2022, it's 2023 & beyond that get interesting. jmo.
 

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Well I think we would have had a chance with Odell if the line hadn't suffered the injuries and the offense was playing well. But they did and they're not. So there is no way the guy is going to choose the Rams when he can swoop onto a roster that is set and give himself another shot at a ring. Green Bay is out too most likely. What he needs to do is take his time picking a team, i.e. wait until just before the playoffs and then pick the team he thinks he can put over the top.

And honestly the Rams probably can't afford him anyway. And if they're going to sandwich in a new contract with creative caponomics it should be a difference maker at edge. Since they will never draft high enough to find one in round 3. Or at the least since their approach limits drafting of cornerstone positions like LT and blindside Edge.

They caught a windfall in Jackson maybe at LT. Other cornerstone spots are good with Stafford and Ramsey. So edge really stands out from that perspective of "what do we do going forward."
 

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Did I say WR roster, ... NO. I said much the same roster, ... as in general. If OBj passes a vigorous physical, I have no reason to discount his continued value. OBj can be had for cheap in 2022, 2023 & beyond is still questionable.
Burns can also carry a cheap CAP hit for 2022, it's 2023 & beyond that get interesting. jmo.
Um… WRs are part of the roster. The part OBJ would be added to.

I’m just addressing the idea they “need” OBJ
 

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Well I think we would have had a chance with Odell if the line hadn't suffered the injuries and the offense was playing well. But they did and they're not. So there is no way the guy is going to choose the Rams when he can swoop onto a roster that is set and give himself another shot at a ring. Green Bay is out too most likely. What he needs to do is take his time picking a team, i.e. wait until just before the playoffs and then pick the team he thinks he can put over the top.

And honestly the Rams probably can't afford him anyway. And if they're going to sandwich in a new contract with creative caponomics it should be a difference maker at edge. Since they will never draft high enough to find one in round 3. Or at the least since their approach limits drafting of cornerstone positions like LT and blindside Edge.

They caught a windfall in Jackson maybe at LT. Other cornerstone spots are good with Stafford and Ramsey. So edge really stands out from that perspective of "what do we do going forward."

OBj is really pushing 'it' as far as his personality allows for him to stir multiple team 'pots'.
How McBerry deals with creating a workable OL out of nothing could make a big difference in where the Rams are headed, and a win against the 9'ers should refocus OBj's desire to live in L.A. and play for McVay. A couple of value trades and he may see the light of a second Super Bowl ring right here, as anywhere else he might choose could end up being just as much a crapshoot. Waiting is in his best interests, and there's no telling what the NFL injury list will look like at the end of November. jmo.
 

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The late / great Rich Saul.

Waited until his 6th season to start (back-in-the-day). Then started for seven seasons, without missing a game; and went to the Pro Bowl in the final six of those seasons.
Loved Rich Saul. Only reason he didn't start earlier is because George Allen was the HC and he despised rookies and younger players.
Well, plus the fact that we also had a very good Center named Ken Iman.
Iirc Rich had a brother named Ron that also played in the league.
Might have been his twin but I don't remember at this point.

~ArkyRamsFan~
 

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Those Ops should come with improved OL play, we know given proper time Stafford will hit his man.
Improved OL play means Stafford can afford to sit in the pocket and go through his progressions. 90% of the time, ARob is in the backside of the concept, so if Stafford locks onto his first read or is forced to get rid of the ball because our OL is terrible, then ARob will never get the ball. If this is the case, then McVay needs to tweak the passing concepts to ensure ARob is the #1 read in the progression at least some of the time. This had not been the case at all this year, until last week. Last game was the first time ARob was the #1 option in the route at least 8 times, and wouldn't you know he had his best game as a Ram. Having the all-22 helps, but you can even see it on the TV copy of the games. Watch Stafford's eyes when he drops back and who he's looking at first. It's never ARob. With the quality of our OL right now, it's up to McVay to ensure he schemes up touches for ARob like he did last week.
 

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The latest hot rumor is kc, the Chiefs spread it around vs Buffalo but the last 2 drives are why you need a guy like Beckham. Kelce is doubled and they need a first down, they didn’t get it and gave the ball back to the bills. Who knows if there’s anything to it but joining a super bowl contender is right up Odell’s alley.
 

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At least our reinforcement will be Van Jefferson.. am I right?
 

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My Cutch is a player beside Van Jefferson The Rams be nice to see on the grass
 

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At least our reinforcement will be Van Jefferson.. am I right?
Van opens up the intermediate and short routes for our other two. Seeing the offense before OBJ with Van, and now without either, you can’t discount his contributions to this offense. Dudes role opens up everything
 

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It’s nice to see Arob finding his footing, maybe when Vanjeff comes back this offense can look like we were hoping it would.
Offenses aren’t scoring like they have been across the league but a competent run game might be he only thing the team needs to get back to the 20’s and 30’s versus the teens.
Maybe that’s overly optimistic but I’m encouraged buy the guys coming back.