I would like to pick up one speed receiver somewhere. That is taller than 5' 8".
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I'm not as worried as some about lack of speed given the depth of chain movers and time of possession this offense is going to provide. This offense is going to exhert some ball control.
Speed is overrated. I believe it’s so sought after by Rams fans because of the GSOT.
Puka averaged 13.3 yards per catch.
Jamarr Chase’s triple crown year? 13.4. Last year? 11.3…
Jamarrs 40 time? 4.38.
Kupps triple crown? 13.4
Antonio Brown had one of the greatest six year stretches in NFL history. His average during those years? 13.3
It’s really not that important when you do everything else borderline perfectly. Sure it helps, but you don’t need a guy who runs a 4.3 to have a dominant offense
I’ve said it before, and my stance on this falls in line with: The NFL lives in the intermediate.
Puka averaged 13.3 yards per catch.
Jamarr Chase’s triple crown year? 13.4. Last year? 11.3…
Jamarrs 40 time? 4.38.
Kupps triple crown? 13.4
Antonio Brown had one of the greatest six year stretches in NFL history. His average during those years? 13.3
It’s really not that important when you do everything else borderline perfectly. Sure it helps, but you don’t need a guy who runs a 4.3 to have a dominant offense
I’ve said it before, and my stance on this falls in line with: The NFL lives in the intermediate.
Interesting. I always want the tall & fast wide receivers. I asked AI to list the top ten fastest (fastest being 40 yard dash time) 2025 starting wide receivers with their time and yards per catch. I had that list turned into the image below (so it looks fancy but AI created it). The requirement was minimum 40 receptions. Interesting stuff...!
Next, I thought lets take a look at the top ten starting wide receivers with the highest Yards Per Catch, with their corresponding 40 yard dash time. The requirement was also minimum 40 receptions.
Noteworthy: No Rams in either top ten list!
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I still say BThomas on the right team would go some serious damage.
And nobody outside of JSN, Pickens (maybe) and Collins (maybe) on either list is a true top 10 receiver in my opinion. My point is more solidified in my mind.
No
Jefferson
Chase
Puka
Amon-Ra
Brown
Lamb
All of which I would take over all of those receivers. (Minus JSN…if we could wash the Seahawk stank off him)
Long speed is not essential.
Deep balls are lower percentage completions.
You also need good protection and risk constant shots at your QB.
Quickness, route running, Football IQ, work ethic and toughness is where its at.
So is scheming guys open and creating personnel mismatches
Deep balls are lower percentage completions.
You also need good protection and risk constant shots at your QB.
Quickness, route running, Football IQ, work ethic and toughness is where its at.
So is scheming guys open and creating personnel mismatches
Totally agree. YPC isn't the right metric to use to rank WRs. In general, YPC will be slanted towards WRs who have a heavy diet of deep bombs. A WR who is more one-dimensional and not a 3-level threat who catches passes in the short, intermediate and deep area of the field could have a great YPC. If you are great at winning on 3rd&5, for example, it will drag down your YPC, because you got a 6 yard catch, not a 15 to 20 yard reception.
Tutu Atwell had 32 yards per reception last season. Meanwhile, Puka Nacua was only 34th among qualified receivers with 13.3 ypc. In ESPN's receiving metrics, Puka was the best pass catcher in the NFL last year. Atwell is not a better WR than Nacua.
There was a WR named Trey Palmer who ran 4.33 seconds at the Combine and was just over 6 feet tall. He was a late round pick by Tampa. He started several games for them as a rookie but ultimately he only lasted 2 years with the Bucs with 526 yards over those 2 seasons.
Xavier Legette was a 1st rd pick in 2024. He's a muscular and thickly built 6'1'' who ran sub 4.4 seconds. He's started for the Panthers but so far has only averaged slightly more than 400 receiving yards per season. Jalen Coker was an UDFA in the same class as Legette and also plays for the Panthers. Coker has outproduced Legette. That's right, the UDFA has been more effective than the 1st round guy. Coker only runs about 4.6 seconds in the 40.
YPC is naturally going to be skewed in favor of WRs who have fast 40-yard dash times. That's fine if we're drafting the next Calvin Johnson for Stafford, but good luck finding a 6'5'' tall WR who runs 4.3 seconds at the bottom of the 2nd round next year.
Coincidentally, after I post this comment, I'll be posting in the draft forum about Ryan Coleman Williams, the crazy fast Bama WR who played with Ty Simpson. I'm not high on him. Yes, he's fast but I think that's part of the problem. He learned to rely too much on speed and hasn't developed the other parts of his game like route running. My NFL comp for him is John Ross, who ran 4.22 seconds, one of the fastest times ever recorded at the Combine.
Hitstick is right, many of the best NFL WRs aren't super fast. Let's take CeeDee Lamb. He only ran 4.5 seconds in the 40. That's basically Robert Woods speed. Lamb isn't overly tall either. Good WRs come in all shapes and sizes in the NFL. They don't all look or run the same. Some are tall, others are short, some are heavy, some are skinny, some are very fast, others like Puka are supposedly "too slow". It is part of why WRs are a high bust rate position in the draft. It isn't easy to figure out which ones will pan out and which ones won't. If it were that easy, all 32 teams would just keep drafting the same body type over and over.
I am not saying we need a speed receiver to be in the top 10 or even top 50.
I just want someone to make other teams aware when he is in the game.
He could be a 3 4 or even 5 receiver.
Someone to change up defenses from time to time.
Right now we have nobody other than Xavier Smith. And how tall is he.
I just want someone to make other teams aware when he is in the game.
He could be a 3 4 or even 5 receiver.
Someone to change up defenses from time to time.
Right now we have nobody other than Xavier Smith. And how tall is he.
Excellent point. I’ve seen some clips where it has been shown how McVay schemes people open.
Interestingly, the seahawks “borrowed” one technique McVay had been using with Nacua and used it against the Rams by having jsn come out of the backfield to disrupt a specific defensive alignment that had been effective for the Rams.
We don’t always see the intricacies employed, but McVay is heralded for his play calling for a reason.
I think the receiving talent after our top 2 is going to surprise. I remember we had way more question marks on the SB run than now. Back then I said just because there are questions doesn’t mean we don’t have the answers. I think the only depth issues are at tackle, CB and middle LB.
That's not good news because I live my life to please them.
I will definitely work harder and take that into consideration before I post.
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Looks like Sean is on to something with the 3 TE sets.
