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Doesn't matter. You don't give a kid $10 million if you don't think he's talented. You let him walk.
Unless you don’t have any experienced depth. And maybe that’s what he was being offered by other teams and they had to match. It’s a one year deal. If he’s done missing piece then why not a three year deal? Thats what they’ve been giving other free agents lately.
 

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You are 100% entitled to your opinion but labeling Tutu (a 4 year NFL vet/25+ yr old man) a kid does support your opinion very well.
Not sure how, given that I'm much more than twice his age and it's just a figure of speech. But you are entitled to your opinion, too.
 
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You are 100% entitled to your opinion but labeling Tutu (a 4 year NFL vet/25+ yr old man) a kid does support your opinion very well.
Not sure how given that I'm much more than twice his age and it's just a figure of speech. But you are entitled to your opinion, too.

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Unless you don’t have any experienced depth. And maybe that’s what he was being offered by other teams and they had to match. It’s a one year deal. If he’s done missing piece then why not a three year deal? Thats what they’ve been giving other free agents lately.
Not sure how we went from him being underutilized to now being a missing piece, but I'm not surprised.

Anyway Whittington is still on the team and current Jet Tyler Johnson has experience and was not re-signed if experience was the impetus behind the decision.. They could have even re-signed Robinson as it's doubtful he's going to get a yearlong suspension. If it's his first offense he looking at only about 3 games out.

And if I'm not mistaken, at the time, the only LB on the roster with experience was Omar Speights. I didn't see a comparable per position salary going to Rozeboom or Reeder.

But I'll let this one go given it's in the wrong thread as I'm now noticing other poster's requests.
 

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Not sure how, given that I'm much more than twice his age and it's just a figure of speech. But you are entitled to your opinion, too.
It would be fair to call out his performance but your use of ‘Kid’ insinuates he doesn’t have the experience or age to warrant his $10m contract. Would you describe Verse or Nacua as a kid?
 

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Two brothers that underachieved, granted both were on terrible teams, and retired due to injuries relatively young.

It makes you really think about being in the right spot. Guys like Sam Bradford could have careers ended differently if drafted to a good team. We sucked so bad around him those years. David Carr same thing, dude landed in the worst of worse spots.

With Carr retiring.. I'm just saying.. I'd at least be looking into what Jimmy G could get in a trade. What if you could get Spencer Rattler and a 3rd or 4th? Is that worth considering? I'm probably greatly overestimating what Jimmy G could get.. but desperate times make for desperate measures.
It’s not something I’d consider. Jimmy G keeps our playoff aspirations on track if needed for a few games. That certainty is what a Superbowl winning team needs.
 

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It would be fair to call out his performance but your use of ‘Kid’ insinuates he doesn’t have the experience or age to warrant his $10m contract. Would you describe Verse or Nacua as a kid?
Yes. Verse. Nacua. Fisk. etc...

My use of the term has absolutely nothing to do with his performance or experience.
Just his age compared to my own.

Plus, if you read carefully, I'm in support of Tutu Atwell in the exchange.
 

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Yes. Verse. Nacua. Fisk. etc...

My use of the term has absolutely nothing to do with his performance or experience.
Just his age compared to my own.

Plus, if you read carefully, I'm in support of Tutu Atwell in the exchange.
Memphis Ram. I am going to apologize as I went back thru the thread. The thread is a little hard to follow but it looks like we are actually on the same page. McVay/Rams know exactly what they have in Atwell and what they want to do with Atwell. So trusting their decision to kept him another year at $10m is an investment that I support. And it sounds like you do as well. Again apologies for getting twisted around the pole. Cheers!
 

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Ha. I probably do, but try and list 32 better players from that draft. Not saying he's top 15 or a first rounder any other year. That draft was awful. Might be able to get 15 better, but nobody is getting 32 better. I think he's easily be a 1st rounder in a redraft.

Man, I just went an looked up that draft on Wikipedia, and did it suck ass from top to bottom or what? A few good players here and there, but the dearth of talent overall is just staggering.
 

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Not sure how we went from him being underutilized to now being a missing piece, but I'm not surprised.

Anyway Whittington is still on the team and current Jet Tyler Johnson has experience and was not re-signed if experience was the impetus behind the decision.. They could have even re-signed Robinson as it's doubtful he's going to get a yearlong suspension. If it's his first offense he looking at only about 3 games out.

And if I'm not mistaken, at the time, the only LB on the roster with experience was Omar Speights. I didn't see a comparable per position salary going to Rozeboom or Reeder.

But I'll let this one go given it's in the wrong thread as I'm now noticing other poster's requests.
Rozeboom? Wow an UDFA LBer. That’s a position they always resign. You must have missed the part where they signed an upgrade.

They did sign Reeder. Is that your comp for Tutu?

Tyler Johnson was behind Atwell on the depth chart. :eyeroll:

They let Hoecht walk and he was a regular on defense. Did the six game suspension have something to do with it? So why is Demarcus supposed to be an exception?

And, how many good receivers were available on the market this winter? Shakir is the number 3 receiver for the Bills. He got a 3 year $53 million deal. Thats more than 10 million a year. Receivers get paid more than some other positions. You know that. This year the receiver market wasn’t great, so the Rams did a one year overpay. If Atwell produces like some here think then maybe they give him a longer contract. But for now it’s only a one year commitment.

If you want to group up with the ‘Tutu is a first round talent crowd’ feel free. I’ll keep laughing every time I read this stuff. We can revisit it this in January, you know, after that one year deal has expired.
 

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Rozeboom? Wow an UDFA LBer. That’s a position they always resign. You must have missed the part where they signed an upgrade.

They did sign Reeder. Is that your comp for Tutu?

Tyler Johnson was behind Atwell on the depth chart. :eyeroll:

They let Hoecht walk and he was a regular on defense. Did the six game suspension have something to do with it? So why is Demarcus supposed to be an exception?

And, how many good receivers were available on the market this winter? Shakir is the number 3 receiver for the Bills. He got a 3 year $53 million deal. Thats more than 10 million a year. Receivers get paid more than some other positions. You know that. This year the receiver market wasn’t great, so the Rams did a one year overpay. If Atwell produces like some here think then maybe they give him a longer contract. But for now it’s only a one year commitment.

If you want to group up with the ‘Tutu is a first round talent crowd’ feel free. I’ll keep laughing every time I read this stuff. We can revisit it this in January, you know, after that one year deal has expired.
The mention of the LBs AND Tyler Johnson was just using your logic in regards to Atwell's signing / return being based upon his experience.

And I'll keep laughing that you believe that you know how McVay feels about Atwell more than he does no matter what he says. Some of us believe that he's been underutilized. McVay even says that he's been underutilized. But somehow we are wrong and you know best.

BTW, contrary to what may be popular belief, it's very well possible that Atwell may have wanted a one year deal to see how thing go this season. A good, non underutilized, season and he's back on the market for higher dollars. If things stay that same, he gets an early start on finding his next team. We just don't know. Well, maybe you do.:biggrin:
 
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