49'ers 2022/23 San Francisco 49’ers Thread

[dang]

San Francisco 49ers will still be Trey Lance's team next season, says NFL insider

Unless Jimmy Garoppolo can win a Super Bowl, Trey Lance will still be the San Francisco 49ers starting QB in 2023.

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San Francisco 49ers will still be Trey Lance’s team next season, says NFL insider​

“Obviously, it’s not Trey Lance’s team this year because he’s hurt. But next year, they still have full faith that Trey Lance is their future. Trey had surgery last week to repair a broken ankle and ligaments as well. But just four days after that, he surprised the rest of the team and showed up at the meeting on Friday. Everybody came up, gave him hugs, so they still firmly believe this will be his team.

“… As far as Jimmy Garoppolo is concerned, obviously, it’s his team this season, then he’ll be a free agent. What this also does, is I think we were looking at a 49ers season were you’re gonna have some bumps, some ups and downs for Trey Lance, and every time that happened, people are going to start clamoring, ‘Where’s Jimmy G?’ Obviously, they no longer have to deal with that.”

Jay Glazer on 49ers QB situation

Not sure I believe in Jay Glazers opinion.

 

[snackdaddy]

I dunno. It just feels like they don't trust Lance as much anymore. It feels like the reason Jimmy GQ stayed with the team was because they got a good look at Lance in the preseason and realized he's either far from ready or not who they thought he was. That INT vs the Bears it sure looked like he had time to get it to the receiver. But by the time he recognized it, it took too long to plant his foot, wind up and make the throw. His throwing mechanics are not good.

The best mobile quarterbacks are the ones who can evade pressure and still look to pass. Mahomes and Rogers are the among the best. Or run when its there and slide or go out of bounds. I don't see Lance being one of those who can scramble and look to throw the ball. He's like Kapernick. Quick to tuck it and run. He could get better but by that time that Superbowl ready roster may no longer be a Superbowl ready roster.

 

[Kupped]

I dunno. It just feels like they don't trust Lance as much anymore. It feels like the reason Jimmy GQ stayed with the team was because they got a good look at Lance in the preseason and realized he's either far from ready or not who they thought he was. That INT vs the Bears it sure looked like he had time to get it to the receiver. But by the time he recognized it, it took too long to plant his foot, wind up and make the throw. His throwing mechanics are not good.

The best mobile quarterbacks are the ones who can evade pressure and still look to pass. Mahomes and Rogers are the among the best. Or run when its there and slide or go out of bounds. I don't see Lance being one of those who can scramble and look to throw the ball. He's like Kapernick. Quick to tuck it and run. He could get better but by that time that Superbowl ready roster may no longer be a Superbowl ready roster.

Their entire roster-build model will be blown to shit if they have to re-sign Jimmy.

 

[Merlin]

View: https://twitter.com/grantcohn/status/1575867810294571008



View: https://twitter.com/grantcohn/status/1575633925413564416

 

[snackdaddy]

Their entire roster-build model will be blown to shit if they have to re-sign Jimmy.

The 5th year option for first round 2019 picks has been picked up for some players this past offseason. So I believe Lance's would be during the offseason after the 2023 season. That will be interesting to see if they pick up his option then. If he struggles next season it would be hard to justify it. And to justify trading up for him in the first place.

 

[FaulkSF]

Just a note. I was looking ahead to the October 30 game at Sofi. Standard (not resale) nosebleed tickets are running at $165 before extortion fees. Any reason NFL, Ticketmaster or the Rams raised prices almost triple face value?

https://www.ticketmaster.com/los-angeles-rams-vs-san-francisco-inglewood-california-10-30-2022/event/0A005C957CAC0FAF#offer-card

 

[AvengerRam]

For those keeping score at home, the 49ers could have had Micah Parsons with one of the picks they traded for Lance (plus a 1st and 3rd last April and a 1st next year).

I'd say Lance (plus 3 other picks) over Parsons is significantly worse than Tutu over Creed!

 

[Lunchbox]

For those keeping score at home, the 49ers could have had Micah Parsons with one of the picks they traded for Lance (plus a 1st and 3rd last April and a 1st next year).

I'd say Lance (plus 3 other picks) over Parsons is significantly better than Tutu over Creed!

FIFY. @Loyal

 

[Kupped]

The 5th year option for first round 2019 picks has been picked up for some players this past offseason. So I believe Lance's would be during the offseason after the 2023 season. That will be interesting to see if they pick up his option then. If he struggles next season it would be hard to justify it. And to justify trading up for him in the first place.

If they have to pay Jimmy next year.. it screws them.

 

[dang]

I dunno. It just feels like they don't trust Lance as much anymore. It feels like the reason Jimmy GQ stayed with the team was because they got a good look at Lance in the preseason and realized he's either far from ready or not who they thought he was. That INT vs the Bears it sure looked like he had time to get it to the receiver. But by the time he recognized it, it took too long to plant his foot, wind up and make the throw. His throwing mechanics are not good.

The best mobile quarterbacks are the ones who can evade pressure and still look to pass. Mahomes and Rogers are the among the best. Or run when its there and slide or go out of bounds. I don't see Lance being one of those who can scramble and look to throw the ball. He's like Kapernick. Quick to tuck it and run. He could get better but by that time that Superbowl ready roster may no longer be a Superbowl ready roster.

“I prefer my stage name…Jimmy G-String” the artist formerly known as Jimmy GQ.

 

[Steve808]

I dunno. It just feels like they don't trust Lance as much anymore. It feels like the reason Jimmy GQ stayed with the team was because they got a good look at Lance in the preseason and realized he's either far from ready or not who they thought he was. That INT vs the Bears it sure looked like he had time to get it to the receiver. But by the time he recognized it, it took too long to plant his foot, wind up and make the throw. His throwing mechanics are not good.

The best mobile quarterbacks are the ones who can evade pressure and still look to pass. Mahomes and Rogers are the among the best. Or run when its there and slide or go out of bounds. I don't see Lance being one of those who can scramble and look to throw the ball. He's like Kapernick. Quick to tuck it and run. He could get better but by that time that Superbowl ready roster may no longer be a Superbowl ready roster.

Has any QB won a super bowl because of their ability to scramble? Steve Young won with the whiny whiners but it had nothing to do with him running. Craperinick lost because he's not as good a passer as Stafford. I can't think of any QB's who won the title because of their running ability.

McNair gave us a scare but the Rams still won because his pass fell short of the goal line.

 

[snackdaddy]

Has any QB won a super bowl because of their ability to scramble? Steve Young won with the whiny whiners but it had nothing to do with him running. Craperinick lost because he's not as good a passer as Stafford. I can't think of any QB's who won the title because of their running ability.

McNair gave us a scare but the Rams still won because his pass fell short of the goal line.

Mahomes and Rogers could scramble but they do it to buy more time to throw. Wilson won on the strength of a great defense. I feel like teams like Baltimore and AZ will never win a superbowl with their guys who like to run more than most. I don't see SF winning a championship with Lance either.

 

[snackdaddy]

For those keeping score at home, the 49ers could have had Micah Parsons with one of the picks they traded for Lance (plus a 1st and 3rd last April and a 1st next year).

I'd say Lance (plus 3 other picks) over Parsons is significantly worse than Tutu over Creed!

Well, if they both turn out to be busts at least Tutu was a late second rounder and not a multiple first round picks bust.

 

[Kupped]

Has any QB won a super bowl because of their ability to scramble? Steve Young won with the whiny whiners but it had nothing to do with him running. Craperinick lost because he's not as good a passer as Stafford. I can't think of any QB's who won the title because of their running ability.

McNair gave us a scare but the Rams still won because his pass fell short of the goal line.

The thing to look at isn’t if the can run… it’s whether they can make plays from the pocket.

If they can’t? Very tough to win a SB.

Wilson is on the line on this one.. I think people have figured him out and he can’t make enough throws from pocket to win anymore. Horrible trade for Broncos.

 

[Steve808]

The 5th year option for first round 2019 picks has been picked up for some players this past offseason. So I believe Lance's would be during the offseason after the 2023 season. That will be interesting to see if they pick up his option then. If he struggles next season it would be hard to justify it. And to justify trading up for him in the first place.

I hope rat boy doubles down on Lance and goes all in.

 

[Merlin]

Elway scrambled the Broncos into SB losses, then finally won when he had a pocket and run game. So it is a stimulating question.

 

[Kupped]

Elway scrambled the Broncos into SB losses, then finally won when he had a pocket and run game. So it is a stimulating question.

Well… I think it’s easier to say the Broncos run game & D won that game.

 

[Merlin]

Well… I think it’s easier to say the Broncos run game & D won that game.

That doesn't change anything irt the conversation. Point is Elway's career arc supports that theory.

 

[Kupped]

That doesn't change anything irt the conversation. Point is Elway's career arc supports that theory.

I guess I just think the Super Bowl wins were much more about the entire team, especially Terrell Davis, than any Elway evolution. He did more to get his teams to the SB earlier in his career, imo. He threw for 123 yards against the Packers.. only completed 11 passes.

I think the young version of Elway would've easily won a Super Bowl if you dropped him in on that team.

 

[Faceplant]

lol Grant Cohn.

Still plenty of season for Jimmy G to get hurt.

That guy should be a member here. I swear he hates those shit bag niners as bad as we do, hahaha.