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Sources: Cardinals looking to trade Hopkins in offseason
The Arizona Cardinals plan to trade former All-Pro wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins this offseason, sources tell Jordan Schultz, theScore's NFL insider.Hopkins has two years and $34.36 million left on his contract but will likely seek a new deal, according to Schultz.Owner Michael Bidwill plans to...
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Cardinals looking to trade DeAndre Hopkins in offseason
The Arizona Cardinals plan to trade former All-Pro wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins this offseason, sources tell Jordan Schultz, theScore's NFL insider.Hopkins has two years and $34.36 million left on his contract but will likely seek a new deal, according to Schultz.
Owner Michael Bidwill plans to expr
Hopkins' contract holds a no-trade clause, and he'd have to approve any deal.
The 30-year-old is set to earn $19.45 million in base salary and carries a $30.75-million cap hit for the 2023 season, per Spotrac.
The five-time Pro-Bowler missed the campaign's first six games due to suspension. The Cardinals ruled him out of the regular season's final two contests with a knee injury.
The three-time All-Pro receiver has played in 19 of 34 games over the last two years.
Hopkins has recorded 221 receptions, 2,696 yards, and 17 touchdowns over three seasons in Arizona.
He led the Cardinals with 717 receiving yards this campaign while adding three scores in just nine games.
The Houston Texans dealt Hopkins to Arizona in March 2020 after he established himself as one of the premier receivers over his first seven NFL seasons.
The Cardinals reportedly received inquiries about Hopkins' availability prior to the league's trade deadline, but the club wouldn't part with its star pass-catcher.
Arizona is amid significant change after the club fired head coach Kliff Kingsbury and general manager Steve Keim stepped down Monday.
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Cardinals 'created a monster' by extending Kyler Murray, anonymous teammate says
Kyler Murray "felt less compulsion" to "fulfill the expectations of the franchise QB position" after signing an extension, according to an anonymous teammate.
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Cardinals 'created a monster' by extending Kyler Murray, anonymous teammate says
One of Murray's teammates said that the Arizona Cardinals signing Kyler Murray long-term may be a franchise-altering mistake.A Cardinals veteran spoke to Bally Sports on condition of anonymity and said that "it was like they created a monster" after Murray signed a five-year, $230 million extension in the offseason.
The Cardinals went 11-6 in 2021, making the playoffs in Murray's third season in which he was named a Pro Bowler for the second time. They lost to the eventual Super Bowl Champion Los Angeles Rams, but the immediate future looked bright.
Until it wasn't.
Despite signing Murray, the Cardinals had a disappointing 2022 campaign, going 3-7 in Murray's 10 full games played. They finished 4-13 and in dead last in the NFC West.
Murray's stats - in a 17-game pace - were on par with his career numbers, but the veteran, according to Bally Sports, said Murray "felt less compulsion to study his game plan or to fulfill the expectations of the franchise QB position than he had in the past, and the Cardinals' collapse felt predictable."
Upon extending Murray, the Cardinals included a clause that required four hours of "independent study," which consisted of film and game study during game weeks. After receiving backlash for the clause, the Cards removed the addendum from the contract.
Murray's former teammate, Patrick Peterson, said that Murray "don't care about nobody but Kyler Murray," and head coach Kliff Kingsbury would be the "scapegoat" for the Cardinals' struggles.
The Cardinals fired him after four years; it was rumored that his relationship with Murray had turned sour recently.
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You’d almost want to take the $97 million dead cap number and be done with itCardinals 'created a monster' by extending Kyler Murray, anonymous teammate says
Kyler Murray "felt less compulsion" to "fulfill the expectations of the franchise QB position" after signing an extension, according to an anonymous teammate.Cardinals 'created a monster' by extending Kyler Murray, anonymous teammate says
One of Murray's teammates said that the Arizona Cardinals signing Kyler Murray long-term may be a franchise-altering mistake.
A Cardinals veteran spoke to Bally Sports on condition of anonymity and said that "it was like they created a monster" after Murray signed a five-year, $230 million extension in the offseason.
The Cardinals went 11-6 in 2021, making the playoffs in Murray's third season in which he was named a Pro Bowler for the second time. They lost to the eventual Super Bowl Champion Los Angeles Rams, but the immediate future looked bright.
Until it wasn't.
Despite signing Murray, the Cardinals had a disappointing 2022 campaign, going 3-7 in Murray's 10 full games played. They finished 4-13 and in dead last in the NFC West.
Murray's stats - in a 17-game pace - were on par with his career numbers, but the veteran, according to Bally Sports, said Murray "felt less compulsion to study his game plan or to fulfill the expectations of the franchise QB position than he had in the past, and the Cardinals' collapse felt predictable."
Upon extending Murray, the Cardinals included a clause that required four hours of "independent study," which consisted of film and game study during game weeks. After receiving backlash for the clause, the Cards removed the addendum from the contract.
Murray's former teammate, Patrick Peterson, said that Murray "don't care about nobody but Kyler Murray," and head coach Kliff Kingsbury would be the "scapegoat" for the Cardinals' struggles.
The Cardinals fired him after four years; it was rumored that his relationship with Murray had turned sour recently.
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This is such a mess and if the Cards weren’t in the Rams division I’d feel sorry for everyone of their fans, with the exception of Kurt Warner.Cardinals 'created a monster' by extending Kyler Murray, anonymous teammate says
Kyler Murray "felt less compulsion" to "fulfill the expectations of the franchise QB position" after signing an extension, according to an anonymous teammate.Cardinals 'created a monster' by extending Kyler Murray, anonymous teammate says
One of Murray's teammates said that the Arizona Cardinals signing Kyler Murray long-term may be a franchise-altering mistake.
A Cardinals veteran spoke to Bally Sports on condition of anonymity and said that "it was like they created a monster" after Murray signed a five-year, $230 million extension in the offseason.
The Cardinals went 11-6 in 2021, making the playoffs in Murray's third season in which he was named a Pro Bowler for the second time. They lost to the eventual Super Bowl Champion Los Angeles Rams, but the immediate future looked bright.
Until it wasn't.
Despite signing Murray, the Cardinals had a disappointing 2022 campaign, going 3-7 in Murray's 10 full games played. They finished 4-13 and in dead last in the NFC West.
Murray's stats - in a 17-game pace - were on par with his career numbers, but the veteran, according to Bally Sports, said Murray "felt less compulsion to study his game plan or to fulfill the expectations of the franchise QB position than he had in the past, and the Cardinals' collapse felt predictable."
Upon extending Murray, the Cardinals included a clause that required four hours of "independent study," which consisted of film and game study during game weeks. After receiving backlash for the clause, the Cards removed the addendum from the contract.
Murray's former teammate, Patrick Peterson, said that Murray "don't care about nobody but Kyler Murray," and head coach Kliff Kingsbury would be the "scapegoat" for the Cardinals' struggles.
The Cardinals fired him after four years; it was rumored that his relationship with Murray had turned sour recently.
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LMFAO ALL THE SIGNS WERE THERE BUT THE FO IGNORED THEM. A QB WHO REFUSES TO STUDY OR DEVELOP HIS TALENTS IS A BUST.
A study in contrasts:
Kyler Murray: Everyone else is to blame for his mistakes. Refuses to study because he's too stupid to understand the concepts. He can simply go out and wing it every game because his money is guaranteed. So he is all he will be, a spoiled child who can't lead the team and sulks when things go bad. He can't read NFL defenses now any better than when he was a rookie.
Baker Mayfield: Considered a bust by Cleveland, and Carolina and signed off the waiver wire by the Rams. In 5 games he won 2 of them behind a makeshift OL and only one starting WR with second and third string WRs. All done with limited knowledge of the playbook and practice with his receivers. Analysis of his play showed good arm strength, an ability to go through his progressions, and an understanding of defensive concepts. Displayed good leadership on and off the field, and a good work ethic. In other words the exact opposite of Murray. The Rams have resurrected his career. If he stays the future looks bright, again the opposite of Murray.
Adversity has changed Mayfield, changed the trajectory from bust to becoming a franchise QB. There is no question that there are a lot of things Mayfield has to clean up in his play. But everything he needs is attainable via good coaching and hard work. A one to two year apprenticeship behind Stafford will do him a world of good. To learn from one of the best at reading defenses can't be understated. One of the best traits of Mayfield vs Murray is with Kyler when things go wrong he panics. Baker hasn't shown that in the 5 games he has played and things did go wrong on a number of occasions. He simply took the loss and lived to play another series.
The biggest thing between Stafford and Mayfield is that I don't think Mayfield will be the turnover machine that many times Stafford is.
In Detroit Goff is a game manager, taking what is given be it short or deep but forever mindful of moving the chains. Mayfield can be that kind of QB. With Mayfield, I think the fundamental concepts of McVay's offense will change. This obsession to keep pushing the ball downfield will change. It will return to try to be more balanced, taking the short and medium passes if given to keep the chains moving but also to set up their shots downfield. Mayfield will probably still read deep to short but that deep throw must be there presnap because he will come off it reading medium to short. He did that with his game winning throw vs the Raiders. He could see presnap that if the safety moved inside, Jefferson would come open so he knew that the deep throw would be there. That throw told me a whole lot about Baker's development since he was a rookie. over his 5 year career.
With Kyler Murray, the Cards are locked into failure for the next 3 years. Then they will have to start all over again. This is what happens when you have poor ownership who hire losers for his FO and HC.
A study in contrasts:
Kyler Murray: Everyone else is to blame for his mistakes. Refuses to study because he's too stupid to understand the concepts. He can simply go out and wing it every game because his money is guaranteed. So he is all he will be, a spoiled child who can't lead the team and sulks when things go bad. He can't read NFL defenses now any better than when he was a rookie.
Baker Mayfield: Considered a bust by Cleveland, and Carolina and signed off the waiver wire by the Rams. In 5 games he won 2 of them behind a makeshift OL and only one starting WR with second and third string WRs. All done with limited knowledge of the playbook and practice with his receivers. Analysis of his play showed good arm strength, an ability to go through his progressions, and an understanding of defensive concepts. Displayed good leadership on and off the field, and a good work ethic. In other words the exact opposite of Murray. The Rams have resurrected his career. If he stays the future looks bright, again the opposite of Murray.
Adversity has changed Mayfield, changed the trajectory from bust to becoming a franchise QB. There is no question that there are a lot of things Mayfield has to clean up in his play. But everything he needs is attainable via good coaching and hard work. A one to two year apprenticeship behind Stafford will do him a world of good. To learn from one of the best at reading defenses can't be understated. One of the best traits of Mayfield vs Murray is with Kyler when things go wrong he panics. Baker hasn't shown that in the 5 games he has played and things did go wrong on a number of occasions. He simply took the loss and lived to play another series.
The biggest thing between Stafford and Mayfield is that I don't think Mayfield will be the turnover machine that many times Stafford is.
In Detroit Goff is a game manager, taking what is given be it short or deep but forever mindful of moving the chains. Mayfield can be that kind of QB. With Mayfield, I think the fundamental concepts of McVay's offense will change. This obsession to keep pushing the ball downfield will change. It will return to try to be more balanced, taking the short and medium passes if given to keep the chains moving but also to set up their shots downfield. Mayfield will probably still read deep to short but that deep throw must be there presnap because he will come off it reading medium to short. He did that with his game winning throw vs the Raiders. He could see presnap that if the safety moved inside, Jefferson would come open so he knew that the deep throw would be there. That throw told me a whole lot about Baker's development since he was a rookie. over his 5 year career.
With Kyler Murray, the Cards are locked into failure for the next 3 years. Then they will have to start all over again. This is what happens when you have poor ownership who hire losers for his FO and HC.
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That was my first thought. I get where he’s goin* but there are probably better ways to express it.
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The Cards have hired Monti Ossenfort as their new GM. At first glance, he looks like he has the background you want particularly in scouting. A HC is only as good as the players they have on the roster. Talent evaluation is key to not only drafting but to trading as well. The primary impact the GM has is in player acquisition.
Ossenfort could be a big step up from Keim who only had about 4 years as a scout all with AZ and not much else. Ossenfort has between 6-8 years as a scout and in various executive positions as well. It will be interesting to see how well he drafts, what player moves he makes, and most of all who he hires as HC. All that said the team will be hamstrung for at least 3 years with Murray's contract and a pouting, lazy, poor leader of a QB. Nothing will really change until they can rid themselves of an obvious cancer.
Ossenfort looks to be a decent step up as a GM for the Cards.
Ossenfort could be a big step up from Keim who only had about 4 years as a scout all with AZ and not much else. Ossenfort has between 6-8 years as a scout and in various executive positions as well. It will be interesting to see how well he drafts, what player moves he makes, and most of all who he hires as HC. All that said the team will be hamstrung for at least 3 years with Murray's contract and a pouting, lazy, poor leader of a QB. Nothing will really change until they can rid themselves of an obvious cancer.
Ossenfort looks to be a decent step up as a GM for the Cards.
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YOUSONOFA ~ StoutI’d like to take a moment to thank the Cardinals for keeping the Rams out of last place in the division.
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