20 Random Simply Awful Start Thoughts

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FrantikRam

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You know what made me feel better?

Packers lost to the Saints by 30+ in week one last year.

Burn the tape and move on. We're fine.
 

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You know what made me feel better?

Packers lost to the Saints by 30+ in week one last year.

Burn the tape and move on. We're fine.

Agreed. Sixteen more weeks are guaranteed. How we respond against the Falcons will say a lot, though.
 

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Link to this? I did not see it live. Even if Stafford was saying that, without context, it could easily be non-elbow related. E.g. in response to being asked why he was not going deep, maybe Stafford replied "I can't hold the ball", i.e., not enough pass protection for a longer route to develop. Who knows.
Someone above said it was about not being able to hold the ball long enough for Robinson to get open.

I was referring to one of his hands that was bleeding and thought he may have injured his hand. Not referring to the elbow at all.
 

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I don’t think anything that happened on Thursday had to do with Stafford’s elbow.
That‘s alright, I see it differently...playcalling...tunnel vision...etc

Last time a Rams OLine sucked so bad a 25 year old QB “regressed”

I like you AR, you bring good stuff and are on my must read list
 

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Last time a Rams OLine sucked so bad a 25 year old QB “regressed”
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Our running game has been really poor since Gurley's play declined and he departed.

Saffold's departure left a huge hole because he was able to move people in the interior run game, something we've completely lacked since he left and we are unable to run for first down on 3rd and short, we can't move people.

We don't have the ability to play physical at the point of attack, cannot open holes for running backs and we lack that physical back that can force safeties and DB's to come up.

As a consequence, teams are disrespecting our running game, sitting deep and we are being forced to nickel and dime our way upfield.

At guar, Edwards disappoints me, both in the running game and against the pass. Brian Allen is undersized against nose tackles and interior D-linemen and is getting injuries relating to that deficiencies.

Everyone talks about our deep receiving unit, but the Super Bowl Game really exposed the fact that Kupp and OBJ are really our only dangerous receivers.

Right now, Kupp is the only one who concerns other defenses. He is absolutely incredible, but right now it's one-man football.

What must be determined is if Stafford threw almost exclusively to Kupp because only Kupp was consistently open, or if Stafford got too locked onto Kupp.

Given how few passes were caught by anyone else, all receiving options must be explored and the plan to redshirt McCutcheon this year may have to be reconsidered if other receivers don't step up. Nothing should be off the table.

At this point we're being forced to get by with no running game, an O-line that lacks physicality and with one productive receiver. Against Buffalo, Tyler Higbee continued a trend of dropping balls, a trend dating back to late last year.

I have little faith in Van Jefferson, his lack of commitment on 50/50 balls is evident.

On defence, I posted last year that Jalen Ramsey was getting torched and is overrated, most disagreed with me. It's clear that the league has found him out and he is being targeted, as I said he would be. If he stays at corner, he will require constant over the top safety help at all times as he cannot cover deep.

It is puzzling that Ramsey is widely viewed as the league's best coverage corner, though his strength is that he does pack a heavy load when he delivers a hit.

Also, in spite of all of the hype that he gets and all of the attention and double teams drawn by Aaron Donald, Leonard Floyd just doesn't get to the quarterback very often and almost never in big games against good teams.

Everyone talks about our lack of pass rush and sacks on Floyd's opposite defensive side, but no one mentions the lack of sacks and pressures from Floyd himself.

Overall the pass rush against Buffalo was very poor.

Our soft zone (no press) coverage mystifies me, given that teams have been killing us with quick-release short throws for several seasons now. We just haven't made the appropriate adjustments.

Seeing Taylor Rapp starting - given his total inability to defend the pass - is puzzling. The contract between Nick Scott's rangy, punishing, All-Pro calibre play and Rapp's poor play, is astonishing. Scott is all over the field and around the ball.

Finally, it is reported that McVay really lit up the players after the game. The pathetic performance in the Buffalo game may have demonstrated that the McVay practice of sitting out all starters completely in the preseason may have to change.

Many of the starters were not sharp, were unprepared, not game-ready and played very slow. The tackling was atrocious and apart from Nick Scott and Aaron Donald, we had absolutely no physical edge.

Most players did not distinguish themselves and should have had to demonstrate in preseason game action that they are actually better than their backups. If we had seen some of what we saw against Buffalo, perhaps some late trades may have been considered.

Apart from scheme adjustments, the primary question that must be addressed by McVay and the coaching staff is if we have players on this team and on the practice squad capable of resolving the deficiencies that were clearly in evidence in the preseason and against Buffalo.
 

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I feel like we are painted into a corner with the O-line. We are no threat to run anything but 11 (or 10) personnel (we only have 2 TE's on the roster, no FB's) and our running game is little threat unless the passing game is already popping. At this point, any team that can consistently pressure Stafford while only rushing four against us has a massive advantage.

I'm not worried about the defense. Everything on that side of the ball is correctable.
 

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Our running game has been really poor since Gurley's play declined and he departed.

Saffold's departure left a huge hole because he was able to move people in the interior run game, something we've completely lacked since he left and we are unable to run for first down on 3rd and short, we can't move people.

We don't have the ability to play physical at the point of attack, cannot open holes for running backs and we lack that physical back that can force safeties and DB's to come up.

As a consequence, teams are disrespecting our running game, sitting deep and we are being forced to nickel and dime our way upfield.

At guar, Edwards disappoints me, both in the running game and against the pass. Brian Allen is undersized against nose tackles and interior D-linemen and is getting injuries relating to that deficiencies.

Everyone talks about our deep receiving unit, but the Super Bowl Game really exposed the fact that Kupp and OBJ are really our only dangerous receivers.

Right now, Kupp is the only one who concerns other defenses. He is absolutely incredible, but right now it's one-man football.

What must be determined is if Stafford threw almost exclusively to Kupp because only Kupp was consistently open, or if Stafford got too locked onto Kupp.

Given how few passes were caught by anyone else, all receiving options must be explored and the plan to redshirt McCutcheon this year may have to be reconsidered if other receivers don't step up. Nothing should be off the table.

At this point we're being forced to get by with no running game, an O-line that lacks physicality and with one productive receiver. Against Buffalo, Tyler Higbee continued a trend of dropping balls, a trend dating back to late last year.

I have little faith in Van Jefferson, his lack of commitment on 50/50 balls is evident.

On defence, I posted last year that Jalen Ramsey was getting torched and is overrated, most disagreed with me. It's clear that the league has found him out and he is being targeted, as I said he would be. If he stays at corner, he will require constant over the top safety help at all times as he cannot cover deep.

It is puzzling that Ramsey is widely viewed as the league's best coverage corner, though his strength is that he does pack a heavy load when he delivers a hit.

Also, in spite of all of the hype that he gets and all of the attention and double teams drawn by Aaron Donald, Leonard Floyd just doesn't get to the quarterback very often and almost never in big games against good teams.

Everyone talks about our lack of pass rush and sacks on Floyd's opposite defensive side, but no one mentions the lack of sacks and pressures from Floyd himself.

Overall the pass rush against Buffalo was very poor.

Our soft zone (no press) coverage mystifies me, given that teams have been killing us with quick-release short throws for several seasons now. We just haven't made the appropriate adjustments.

Seeing Taylor Rapp starting - given his total inability to defend the pass - is puzzling. The contract between Nick Scott's rangy, punishing, All-Pro calibre play and Rapp's poor play, is astonishing. Scott is all over the field and around the ball.

Finally, it is reported that McVay really lit up the players after the game. The pathetic performance in the Buffalo game may have demonstrated that the McVay practice of sitting out all starters completely in the preseason may have to change.

Many of the starters were not sharp, were unprepared, not game-ready and played very slow. The tackling was atrocious and apart from Nick Scott and Aaron Donald, we had absolutely no physical edge.

Most players did not distinguish themselves and should have had to demonstrate in preseason game action that they are actually better than their backups. If we had seen some of what we saw against Buffalo, perhaps some late trades may have been considered.

Apart from scheme adjustments, the primary question that must be addressed by McVay and the coaching staff is if we have players on this team and on the practice squad capable of resolving the deficiencies that were clearly in evidence in the preseason and against Buffalo.

I agree with most of your points but sitting starters in the pre-season doesn't bother me. McVay is 5-1 in season openers. I'll take that anytime.

But yeah, the offense looked rusty. The defense, even though didn't play that great, did force 4 turnovers and the Rams could have been leading at halftime. That said, not being able to force a single punt is not good.
 

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Another thing that occurred to me is that Wagner looked SLLLLOOOOW. I hope he still has gas in the tank.
 

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21. I’m inconsolable after this loss. What? The 49ers lost to the Bears!?!? AND Trey Lance looked bad in the process? Okay… I feel a little bit better now.
 
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I agree with most of your points but sitting starters in the pre-season doesn't bother me. McVay is 5-1 in season openers. I'll take that anytime.

But yeah, the offense looked rusty. The defense, even though didn't play that great, did force 4 turnovers and the Rams could have been leading at halftime. That said, not being able to force a single punt is not good.
I agree with you that McVay hadn't lost an opener before, but he hasn't faced this level of competition in the previous ones.

The troubling part about the Buffalo loss is that we had he same issues in that game that we had in the Super Bowl game - the total absence of a running game, the O-line losing the line of scrimmage, soft zone coverage on D, Cooper Kupp as our only viable receiving option and Jalen Ramsey getting burned deep.

With a full off-season to address these, nothing appears to have changed other than losing Von Miller's pass rushing threat. Without first round picks for a time, we're reduced to taking late round flyers (Daniel Hardy). We badly need anther pass rusher.

Also, I'd like to think that our coaches saw what other coaches clearly saw with Ramsey because teams are going after Ramsey every game now and adjustments have yet to be made.

Logan Bruss was drafted to reace Corbett and to add a road grading guard to the team because David Edwards just isn't getting it done.

We won last year in spite of some deficiencies. It's time to address them.

It's too early to panic, but in a league where other teams are adding earlier round talent, we've got to be getting better each year in order to stand a realistic chance of repeating.

Just keeping it real.
 

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Looks like a lot of team’s are getting off to disappointing starts. Maybe the lack of preseason reps is an issue for many teams, not just ours.
 

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Looks like a lot of team’s are getting off to disappointing starts. Maybe the lack of preseason reps is an issue for many teams, not just ours.
One week, I cant believe how so many fans on here hit the panic button. The sames ones when we went 0 for November I reckon....

Get back on track this week....
 

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Another thing that occurred to me is that Wagner looked SLLLLOOOOW. I hope he still has gas in the tank.
I concur here, I was not overly impressed. Again, I wish the Rams could've kept Von Miller or that Miller made his decision quicker, that would have enabled the Rams to pivot to somebody else like Chandler Jones for example.
 

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No matter what happens tonight the Niners are FIRMLY in last place because they lost to an NFC team (arguably the worst one too hahahahahaha) while the rest of the division played AFC teams
 

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Our running game has been really poor since Gurley's play declined and he departed.
Disagree there, Cam Akers looked pretty solid at the tail end of his rookie season and was a total beast in the playoffs that year
Alas, we are waiting to see if that player can ever return to form
To a lesser extent, Sony Michel ended last season on a decent run as well, in his last 6 games he had rushed for 540 yards and 3 TD.