20 Random (Red) Zoned Out Thoughts

[fanotodd]

I don’t know who Nick Write is but, clearly, he knows nothing about football and he molests collies.

Actually, Nick Wright tends to know more than the average pundit, though that is not difficult. He’s a gambler too, so he follows a lot of metrics, and stats. That being said, he is not without his biases and not liking the Rams’ chances this year is one of them. It’s gonna take a lot to bring him around—you know, like winning a winnable game.

But “blowing the team up”? Isn’t that what the Rams did?
They jettisoned their best Edge rusher, their best CB, did not re-sign their 2 starting Safeties, their 2 best IDL, and an awesome Kicker. I’d say they pretty much blew the team up. Donald, Stafford, and Kupp remain because the rebuild doesn’t have to take a decade and those three will hopefully retire as Rams with TWO titles.

Resetting a roster is one thing, giving up is another.

 

[dieterbrock]

That's how the league got out of the lawsuit that Jets fans were suing to get ticket money back. The judge agreed.

Dude, the league had nothing to do with it. It was a frivolous suit filed by some huckster attorney who files all sorts of the same. It was no smoking gun. It went away because it was an embarrassment of a claim. All sporting events are entertainment, all sports are protected from proclaimed "damages" suffered by ticket holders. The NFL didnt make this go away, it went away because it was a joke

 

[AvengerRam]

Actually, Nick Wright tends to know more than the average pundit, though that is not difficult.

Exactly. That’s a low bar. His opinion carries no weight for me.

 

[AvengerRam]

Oh BTW the Bengals won by 3 points. The Tutu TD reversal was their margin of victory. That TD is allowed the Rams win and the bettors lose.

A few years ago the NFL prohibited gaming advertising at stadiums etc. Now sports betting is a commercial sponsor and that is when the point shaving started. Coincidence?

…and, therefore, all men are Socrates.

Your logic is flawed. How, exactly, would the fixers know the impact of a first quarter play on the final outcome?

This is just silly.

 

[Tano]

…and, therefore, all men are Socrates.

Your logic is flawed. How, exactly, would the fixers know the impact of a first quarter play on the final outcome?

This is just silly.

They couldn't

That's why they also didn't overturn the clear incomplete interception

The Timeout

The tug on Tutu's jersey in the end zone

Are they all just incompetent (I just cannot believe they are that incompetent now and it has been getting worse)

There is something going on that we are not allowed to see - I almost have to go by Occam's Razor

If the game was close, the Bengals were not going to be allowed to lose and go 0-3

 

[Faceplant]

easy troll answers = "rigged"

real answer = incompetent officials... even with replay, wtf

The 2nd sentence kinda works in the "trolls" favor, haha.

 

[Allen2McVay]

This is without a doubt point shaving,

It's really not.

 

[AvengerRam]

They couldn't

That's why they also didn't overturn the clear incomplete interception

The Timeout

The tug on Tutu's jersey in the end zone

Are they all just incompetent (I just cannot believe they are that incompetent now and it has been getting worse)

There is something going on that we are not allowed to see - I almost have to go by Occam's Razor

If the game was close, the Bengals were not going to be allowed to lose and go 0-3

Refs make bad calls.

Sometimes they seem to be against your team.

Other times they fail to call an obvious PI and your team goes to the Super Bowl.

There’s no plan, scheme of conspiracy.

 

[Allen2McVay]

...

There’s no plan, scheme of conspiracy.

It just occurred to me that Jaquiski Tartt has not played in an NFL game since dropping that easy interception in the fourth quarter of the 2021 NFC Championship against the Rams.

How many Millions do you think Kroenke and the NFL paid Tartt to drop that ball???

 

[madrid311]

They couldn't

That's why they also didn't overturn the clear incomplete interception

The Timeout

The tug on Tutu's jersey in the end zone

Are they all just incompetent (I just cannot believe they are that incompetent now and it has been getting worse)

There is something going on that we are not allowed to see - I almost have to go by Occam's Razor

If the game was close, the Bengals were not going to be allowed to lose and go 0-3

it sure looked like Stafford was helping the Bengal's as well.

 

[Tano]

Refs make bad calls.

Sometimes they seem to be against your team.

Other times they fail to call an obvious PI and your team goes to the Super Bowl.

There’s no plan, scheme of conspiracy.

Just seems to be getting worse in the last 10 years

Are they just incompetent now?

 

[GoodBadUgly]

Oh BTW the Bengals won by 3 points. The Tutu TD reversal was their margin of victory. That TD is allowed the Rams win and the bettors lose.

A few years ago the NFL prohibited gaming advertising at stadiums etc. Now sports betting is a commercial sponsor and that is when the point shaving started. Coincidence?

I enjoy your posts, always entertaining, but have to point out that whatever the NFL ivory tower does to influence winners/losers is about viewership/competitiveness and interesting story lines, not about influencing the point spread.

"That TD is allowed the Rams win and the bettors lose" is just never true since by design the spread is set to ensure the same amount of payout for any outcome. The house wants to win either way. They just want more bettors. However, influencing winners and losers is a different matter.

The current TV commercial campaign about scripting the NFL season is particularly amusing to me, since I firmly believe this is the world's best troll ever executed. The NFL has been influencing outcomes (not necessarily final scores/point spreads) for decades. All you have to do is watch the 9/11 Patriots beating the best Rams team ever assembled in the Super Bowl (and the tuck rule that even got them there).

Every person not a diehard Patriots fan has to come to the conclusion the NFL put an anvil on that scale.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Wrong again. You clearly either didn’t read the opinion or lack the capacity to understand the basis of the ruling (I’m guessing you’re not a lawyer).

Suffice to say, nothing in the decision would allow the NFL to fix games with impunity.

NASCAR did it for over a decade. The Dale Earnhardt to Jeff Gordon era was wildly popular and the sport was in its heyday. They made lots of money creating a villain that always won. Every fan watched to either root for him or against him.

Sound familiar?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

This

As Elm states - only a couple games changed by the refs can affect a direction the league is going towards the playoffs

The ridiculous argument that it can’t be done clearly ignores the concept of steering an outcome.

It’s not 100%. If a game is close, then a call here or there can steer the outcome in the desired direction. If the team that the NFL wants to win is getting soundly beaten then there is no way to fix it. They don’t interfere. It would be too obvious.

Early season games aren’t worth risking to try to affect. But this is a multi billion dollar business with enormous investment from tv deals and advertising. I will always believe that when there is that much money involved then certain people’s opinions will carry weight. I said it earlier. No advertisers or a network wants a Super Bowl or a playoff game that won’t get many viewers.

I think anyone that doesn’t think that’s a reality with big business has their heads in the sand. The NFL is a business first and foremost.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Wrong again. You clearly either didn’t read the opinion or lack the capacity to understand the basis of the ruling (I’m guessing you’re not a lawyer).

Suffice to say, nothing in the decision would allow the NFL to fix games with impunity.

You get pretty insulting for a a guy with a supposed positive outlook on life. Why you get so angry over this topic is bizarre. And yes, if you are insulting me, then you are angry.

I think you lack the ability to deal with whatever is going on in your life and you bring it here. I don’t recall you being so testy in the past, but the last few months you are like a different poster. I hope you work out whatever it is that you are going through.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Bottom line is that neither side can disprove the other.

So the arrogant posters here that think they know games can’t be fixed, don’t have any proof that they aren’t.

But that doesn’t hold them back from ridiculing others that believe that it happens. Odd how that works. Maybe get off your high horses and discuss it. If you can’t be civil then don’t comment. Nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise. I’ve been in the corporate world. The level of corruption is disgusting.

 

[AvengerRam]

You get pretty insulting for a a guy with a supposed positive outlook on life. Why you get so angry over this topic is bizarre. And yes, if you are insulting me, then you are angry.

I think you lack the ability to deal with whatever is going on in your life and you bring it here. I don’t recall you being so testy in the past, but the last few months you are like a different poster. I hope you work out whatever it is that you are going through.

When I simply told you that you were wrong, you questioned the intelligence of my retort. When I elaborate, you get insulted.

My life is fine. Thanks for asking.

 

[AvengerRam]

Bottom line is that neither side can disprove the other.

So the arrogant posters here that think they know games can’t be fixed, don’t have any proof that they aren’t.

But that doesn’t hold them back from ridiculing others that believe that it happens. Odd how that works. Maybe get off your high horses and discuss it. If you can’t be civil then don’t comment. Nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise. I’ve been in the corporate world. The level of corruption is disgusting.

It is the job of the proponent of a proposition to prove its validity.

We don’t have to disprove Your theory.

 

[dieterbrock]

Bottom line is that neither side can disprove the other.

So the arrogant posters here that think they know games can’t be fixed, don’t have any proof that they aren’t.

But that doesn’t hold them back from ridiculing others that believe that it happens. Odd how that works. Maybe get off your high horses and discuss it. If you can’t be civil then don’t comment. Nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise. I’ve been in the corporate world. The level of corruption is disgusting.

Why so angry?
You brought up a lawsuit that was a laughable attempt by a sleeze ball to cash in.
Any sporting event you attend, is for entertainment purpose. You cant sue for damages, which is what that "loophole" thought it could do.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

It is the job of the proponent of a proposition to prove its validity.

We don’t have to disprove Your theory.

This is not a court. Maybe that’s the problem.