Youtube reveals its pricing for Sunday Ticket

[Corbin]

If I have to stream the game no way in hell am I paying to stream it. I can find plenty of other ways to spend my $.

Exactly. There’s no point

 

[Psycho_X]

So NFL international has moved its service to DAZN. I'm not sure what that is but apparently it's pretty big across the pond for streaming sports of all sorts. I was afraid this might effect using a VPN to access it and I've found conflicting information. DAZN itself says it will block any VPNs from accessing DAZN streams. And that seems to hold up from other sources I've read. But I've also read there are workarounds or some VPN services that do work with DAZN. Not going to risk that if I have to pay for something and it randomly gets blocked half way through the season.

Overall, VPN option for NFL international is not looking promising right now.

 

[Corbin]

So NFL international has moved its service to DAZN. I'm not sure what that is but apparently it's pretty big across the pond for streaming sports of all sorts. I was afraid this might effect using a VPN to access it and I've found conflicting information. DAZN itself says it will block any VPNs from accessing DAZN streams. And that seems to hold up from other sources I've read. But I've also read there are workarounds or some VPN services that do work with DAZN. Not going to risk that if I have to pay for something and it randomly gets blocked half way through the season.

Overall, VPN option for NFL international is not looking promising right now.

How much is DAZN?

 

[Londoner]

How much is DAZN?

Depends where you are and what package you want.

 

[Corbin]

Depends where you are and what package you want.

You're right, should have been more clearer about that. i stream anyway but curious is it the same price in all of the EU? It streams all sports content? Sorry a google search was quite confusing on the details.

p.s. do you have a posh accent? lol

 

[Londoner]

p.s. do you have a posh accent? lol

I’m British.

According to Americans, we all sound like either:

a) People from Downton Abbey
b) Cockney barrow boys.

I’m somewhere in between.

 

[Corbin]

I’m British.

According to Americans, we all sound like either:

a) People from Downton Abbey
b) Cockney Barrow boys.

I’m somewhere in between.

Well I've lived and traveled in the U.K. in the past and it quite amazes me two or three cities over the accent can change up quite a bit, unlike in the U.S. where it's more regional. With your name Londoner I thought I'd ask!

 

[Londoner]

Well I've lived and traveled in the U.K. in the past and it quite amazes me two or three cities over the accent can change up quite a bit, unlike in the U.S. where it's more regional. With your name Londoner I thought I'd ask!

The trouble is that accents vary enormously across London. Not just east to west, but also across different social classes.

 

[Psycho_X]

Yeah prices vary but they did with game pass in the past as well depending on where you said you were fake from lol. I couldn't even sign into DAZN to cancel my auto renewal because it said I was in a country that couldn't access it and I even had my VPN on at that point. Had to talk to someone through chat with their website to get the auto renewal turned off. Because apparently all of your info and subscription options transferred automatically from NFL to them. Which I'm not exactly happy about them just transferring all of my private info to a completely different company but that's a different story.

Anyway, got it all canceled because the amount of effort it took to just do that I don't trust being able to find a reliable way to use it during season. Guess I've been forced into the Sunday Ticket plan because I don't like relying on unreliable third party streams.

 

[Tano]

Yeah prices vary but they did with game pass in the past as well depending on where you said you were fake from lol. I couldn't even sign into DAZN to cancel my auto renewal because it said I was in a country that couldn't access it and I even had my VPN on at that point. Had to talk to someone through chat with their website to get the auto renewal turned off. Because apparently all of your info and subscription options transferred automatically from NFL to them. Which I'm not exactly happy about them just transferring all of my private info to a completely different company but that's a different story.

Anyway, got it all canceled because the amount of effort it took to just do that I don't trust being able to find a reliable way to use it during season. Guess I've been forced into the Sunday Ticket plan because I don't like relying on unreliable third party streams.

Sometimes if it is too much of a pain to cancel - I change my credit card numbers so it won't go thru anymore

I almost never use my bank info for non credit card payments.

 

[Merlin]

If the NFL cared for their fans they would provide:

1. Live game feeds at an individual cost per game that is driven by e-attendance to the game, so a discounted rate vs nosebleed seats in that game. Not driven by moar money from networks. Rather driven by a straight percentage of the lowest seat cost at the actual game. What that percentage is best set at is a conversation in itself and I do not profess to know that.

2. Have a service that allows review of all 22 film in a usable form at a separate price. This should be a season gamepass type deal because the market for it is media and serious fans who want to review all games and see wtf happened.

If they do those two things I would gladly pay for the games that are not showing regionally via broadcast by springing for an eticket to games I know that I must watch. My outlook is that the technology is there to not need to gouge fans for an entire season of games where a handful or more don't need to be paid for due to games being available on broadcast streams or other services said fans already pay for. Also fans should not need to pay for games they might not want to watch as is their prerogative. So if the NFL gave a flying fuck about fans they would be investing to make this happen and be the major sports league to properly lead the charge into the new era of meeting that common ground with the fan base via use of technology.

 

[dieterbrock]

If the NFL cared for their fans they would provide:

NFL football is available on network tv in local markets/national games for no additional cost.
Youtube is charging what they need to so they can make their targeted ROI
The cost of the Sunday ticket is fair, and will cost less than $40 a month for an entire season.
For the average customer, it costs significantly less to get Sunday Ticket now than it did when offered by DTV when you account for the service cost to DTV.
Things cost money, and nice things cost more money.

 

[Psycho_X]

The fact sunday ticket doesn't have playoff games or super bowl is the most obnoxious thing about it.

The cost of the Sunday ticket is fair, and will cost less than $40 a month for an entire season.

It costs $80 a month assuming one gets it without youtube tv. $400 for 5 months aug-dec if you include preseason which I'm assuming sunday ticket has unhindered. Or $133/mo if decide to get youtube tv and add in the price of it. Actually a little worse than that since you'll have to keep youtube tv through February just to watch playoffs.

 

[Merlin]

NFL football is available on network tv in local markets/national games for no additional cost.
Youtube is charging what they need to so they can make their targeted ROI
The cost of the Sunday ticket is fair, and will cost less than $40 a month for an entire season.
For the average customer, it costs significantly less to get Sunday Ticket now than it did when offered by DTV when you account for the service cost to DTV.
Things cost money, and nice things cost more money.

I get it. You love what they are doing. So we will need to disagree on this one.

 

[dieterbrock]

I get it. You love what they are doing. So we will need to disagree on this one.

No, its just economics

 

[dieterbrock]

The fact sunday ticket doesn't have playoff games or super bowl is the most obnoxious thing about it.


It costs $80 a month assuming one gets it without youtube tv. $400 for 5 months aug-dec if you include preseason which I'm assuming sunday ticket has unhindered. Or $133/mo if decide to get youtube tv and add in the price of it. Actually a little worse than that since you'll have to keep youtube tv through February just to watch playoffs.

12 months in a year. Like Netflix or any other streaming site. Its reasonably priced. Can everyone afford it? Of course not. Such is life. But everyone can watch NFL football every week, without spending a penny more than they would for MLB, NBA, NHL etc

 

[Ellard80]

people are outraged about the cost?

I had it on DirectTV for 15-20 years... expensive as shit.

this isnt new.

 

[muggmeister]

Ditched Hulu and switched to YouTube TV and paid the $289 with the Red Zone channel. Got all the programming I need along with Paramount+, and my Prime video account. My buddy which had got the Sunday Ticket with DirectTv the last few years is also switching mainly due to his monthly bill being $189 for his programming which does NOT include any movie channels. Streaming is the way to go, do your own research. DirectTV is a fucking rip-off because just because they HAVE 230+ channels of shit you never watch and 60 of those are music channels, who fucking cares.

 

[Merlin]

No, its just economics

I don't think it is just economics. I believe that is just a broad term you're using to cover your opinion in this discussion and act like you are the only one to see the truth that their current approach is so great.

But I think there's a better way to do it and I also think your shilling for the NFL isn't exactly enriching this thread.

At some point they'll get there too. It's coming maybe a few years down the road or a bit more, where they will offer an ability to purchase one game on-demand. And once that happens or as it transitions I should say they will need to juggle things as they get that approach online but it offers more ROI for them I believe because it can cut out the middleman and they can still have broadcast and network coverage in the classic sense albeit at a lesser return. Just as they can charge for fans to attend in person they will charge fans for e-attendance which will probably include at some point an option to select different cameras to enrich their view.

This stuff is new ground so it won't be easy. But I expect the leading sports league in the greatest country in the world to aggressively push to harness technology, even if it's just to feed their income. I don't hate them for it, it's a business after all. But you acting like it's so perfect... Sorry man. Not buying.

 

[dieterbrock]

But I think there's a better way to do it and I also think your shilling for the NFL isn't exactly enriching this thread.

Schilling for the NFL? Pay better attention. I am stating that youtube's pricing is reasonable for the product being delivered, especially compared to previous years.
You dont want to pay for it, I get it.