Which QB should the Rams draft next year and where?

[Coliseum Ram]

Starting to Gain an Allure for Allar.

Now as a Buckeye fan, I never feared him being totally transparent. I always knew, he would make a mistake, regardless of the game he was having and once it went downhill for Allar, he could never recover. But I would rather use a second day pick on someone like Allar, then the likes of Nussmeier or even worse, Cade freaking Klubnik.

Allar did not get the best coaching in college as his OC Andy Kotelnicki's offense focuses on RPO's and the QB moving, although Allar is an excellent athlete, he is more of a pocket passer, that has the ability to extend plays with his legs, so the offense did not match the strengths of Allar. Drew, is big at 6'5, Nussmeier and Klubnik are 6'1 & 6'2 respectively. Allar has a big arm, not limited plus Allar did not have the best WR's in his tenure at Penn State. Now I realize, there has not been a good Penn State QB at the NFL level, the best was Kerry Collins and he was not that good IMHO. Overall, though, I would take a chance on Allar over the little people because Nussmeier is light and has durability issues and Klubnik just seem to shrink against better teams.

Not enough people giving respect to the 6'5" 240 thing IMO.

Has the Ben/Josh body. Can QB whisperer do something with that skeletal mass? Like you said, bad Coaching, below-average wide outs in College. 3rd or 4th round pick might be better value than a Simpson late 1st early 2nd.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Starting to Gain an Allure for Allar.

 

[Merlin]

Allar did not get the best coaching in college as his OC Andy Kotelnicki's offense focuses on RPO's and the QB moving, although Allar is an excellent athlete, he is more of a pocket passer, that has the ability to extend plays with his legs, so the offense did not match the strengths of Allar. Drew, is big at 6'5, Nussmeier and Klubnik are 6'1 & 6'2 respectively. Allar has a big arm, not limited plus Allar did not have the best WR's in his tenure at Penn State. Now I realize, there has not been a good Penn State QB at the NFL level, the best was Kerry Collins and he was not that good IMHO. Overall, though, I would take a chance on Allar over the little people because Nussmeier is light and has durability issues and Klubnik just seem to shrink against better teams.

When you get down to it his physical advantages matter. I never underestimate height, it matters in what you can see with those behemoths in front of you. But Allar had a strong run game, it's not like it was with those other two who had to move the chains with their arms. I think it's important to look a bit deeper with these guys if you want to give yourself the best chance to find the underappreciated option among the chaff.

It's definitely a depressing group. But I think taking one of them is still important this year, as our goal should be at least finding a QB2 to slide into that role in the 2027 season. And if they hit on more than that, great.

 

[Merlin]

Not enough people giving respect to the 6'5" 240 thing IMO.

Has the Ben/Josh body. Can QB whisperer do something with that skeletal mass? Like you said, bad Coaching, below-average wide outs in College. 3rd or 4th round pick might be better value than a Simpson late 1st early 2nd.

If all you want is the body then Anthony Richardson can be had for a ham sandwich.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

If all you want is the body then Anthony Richardson can be had for a ham sandwich.

Let's not bring Mama Cass Elliot into this.....

But seriously, I'm banking more on Allar being Josh Allen "lite," than JaMarcus Russell or Anthony Richardson. Banking on better brain.

 

[Memento]

There’s no way I’d be happy with Allar in the third. He has everything…except from the neck up. One of the worst decision making college football quarterbacks I’ve seen in recent memory; he just makes utterly baffling and stupid mistakes that he should know better than to make.

I don’t think anyone can fix stupidity on the football field - and you can’t have stupidity on the football field as your quarterback.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

There’s no way I’d be happy with Allar in the third. He has everything…except from the neck up. One of the worst decision making college football quarterbacks I’ve seen in recent memory; he just makes utterly baffling and stupid mistakes that he should know better than to make.

I don’t think anyone can fix stupidity on the football field - and you can’t have stupidity on the football field as your quarterback.

This is all true if he is a final finished product. If McVay gets his hands on him can he change that?

 

[Merlin]

But seriously, I'm banking more on Allar being Josh Allen "lite," than JaMarcus Russell or Anthony Richardson. Banking on better brain.

Based on what.

I mean look we're all working with probably a quarter of the data the teams work with to make these decisions, if that. But the one thing we have to go with is the game film, of which Allar is that dude who had the tools and decent players around him but never could do much with it.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

Based on what.

I mean look we're all working with probably a quarter of the data the teams work with to make these decisions, if that. But the one thing we have to go with is the game film, of which Allar is that dude who had the tools and decent players around him but never could do much with it.

Let's see. The guy was a borderline 1st round pick 2 years ago. Penn State was disastrous at the Head Coach position, let's see what Sean can do with him....

 

[Merlin]

Let's see. The guy was a 1st round pick 2 years ago. Penn State was disastrous at the Head Coach position, let's see what Sean can do with him....

I think first off that whoever Sean takes, if he takes any of them, that QB will have wowed him in whiteboard sessions. So from there I am willing of course to wait and see. Not into condemning picks, even if it's one that I don't like.

But beyond that I have never watched that kid play and been wowed by him. So I don't see any reason to think he might turn it up in the NFL.

In the NFL there are plenty of QBs who can win if you have a 200 yard average run game behind him like Allar had in 2024. But generally you're gonna have games where you need to move the chains with your arm and sustain drives late to gut out wins. For me to take Allar it would be with the understanding that I am getting a player who requires strong run game support, and from there I'm hoping with his considerable tools he finally starts putting things together. And it's possible. But I don't see any reason in his games to think that's gonna happen.

Allar carries a ton of projection. So at that point I'm thinking well why not look at these other QBs who require projection like Payton or Green.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

I think first off that whoever Sean takes, if he takes any of them, that QB will have wowed him in whiteboard sessions. So from there I am willing of course to wait and see. Not into condemning picks, even if it's one that I don't like.

But beyond that I have never watched that kid play and been wowed by him. So I don't see any reason to think he might turn it up in the NFL.

In the NFL there are plenty of QBs who can win if you have a 200 yard average run game behind him like Allar had in 2024. But generally you're gonna have games where you need to move the chains with your arm and sustain drives late to gut out wins. For me to take Allar it would be with the understanding that I am getting a player who requires strong run game support, and from there I'm hoping with his considerable tools he finally starts putting things together. And it's possible. But I don't see any reason in his games to think that's gonna happen.

Allar carries a ton of projection. So at that point I'm thinking well why not look at these other QBs who require projection like Payton or Green.

Also open to the guys you mentioned, intrigued by Allar, but only if McSnead is of course. Not a "have to have" for me.

 

[majrleaged]

I disagree about the playoffs because he played very well against SF. If Reynolds doesn't drop two 4th down passes, they win that game and go to the superbowl.

When you look at goff's career, you will see more of the if only the receiver held on to the ball moments, than successes. I don't know why, but it happens to him a lot. Starting with Kupp's drop in the endzone against Seattle 2017. We used to post about the if only misses all the time in here trying to defend him. He just doesn't over come enough when things go wrong.

 

[PhillyRam]

Not enough people giving respect to the 6'5" 240 thing IMO.

Has the Ben/Josh body. Can QB whisperer do something with that skeletal mass? Like you said, bad Coaching, below-average wide outs in College. 3rd or 4th round pick might be better value than a Simpson late 1st early 2nd.

If he is there at 93, the Rams very well might take him, especially if they add extra picks from a trade down from 13.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

If he is there at 93, the Rams very well might take him, especially if they add extra picks from a trade down from 13.

There's that New England trade down to pick 31 trade rumor that would net us just that. I'm thinking this is contingent on the Rams not being in love with wide receivers available at 13 though.

 

[PhillyRam]

There's that New England trade down to pick 31 trade rumor that would net us just that. I'm thinking this is contingent on the Rams not being in love with wide receivers available at 13 though.

Or them believing they can get a very good WR prospect at 61 or somewhere else on night 2.

 

[Merlin]

Fields, Hurst, Lane, there are some X projects they can go with outside that early going.

 

[OldSchool]

If all you want is the body then Anthony Richardson can be had for a ham sandwich.

Gimme the legend Cardale Jones! Wanting somebody at QB simply for their size and speed is certainly a choice. Personally I'd rather at that point get an Uber home instead.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

Gimme the legend Cardale Jones! Wanting somebody at QB simply for their size and speed is certainly a choice. Personally I'd rather at that point get an Uber home instead.

Nope. Allar better than all these guys mentioned.

 

[Memento]

This is all true if he is a final finished product. If McVay gets his hands on him can he change that?

You can’t teach what Allar lacks. I’m not denying his physical gifts, but drafting a quarterback in the third round who has absolutely no football sense, poor decision-making, and got way worse in his senior year, is a waste of a third round pick.

Double down on receiver, get a corner or safety, get offensive line help, get a linebacker, get a big nose tackle, but don’t tell me that drafting a quarterback in this putrid class - Cole Payton aside, and even he’s a maybe; I don’t like Simpson, and Mendoza’s going #1 overall - is a wise decision. I’m not sure any of them (Edit: not including Mendoza or Simpson in this, for clarification) are even better than Bennett.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

You can’t teach what Allar lacks. I’m not denying his physical gifts, but drafting a quarterback in the third round who has absolutely no football sense, poor decision-making, and got way worse in his senior year, is a waste of a third round pick.

Double down on receiver, get a corner or safety, get offensive line help, get a linebacker, get a big nose tackle, but don’t tell me that drafting a quarterback in this putrid class- Cole Payton aside, and even he’s a maybe; I don’t like Simpson, and Mendoza’s going #1 overall - is a wise decision. I’m not sure any of them are even better than Bennett.

I agree with some of this if not most, 4th round is definitely more like it, I guess I'm just not fully convinced yet that Drew Allar is a complete nothing.