What needs to happen (likely not this year)

[I like Rams]

The problem with this is what may happen in the locker room when displaced starters are forced to the bench. I'd rather trade guys like Peters, Brockers, Fowler & Talib if we can find someone in need, but just sitting them in place of rookies is a recipe for disaster imo.
If Noteboom is to miss multiple games, it will be interesting to see who the Rams call up though. Even more interesting if they raid another teams practice squad. jmo.

Happens all the time when players are not playing to the best of their ability. Noone on the oline has earned starter status as far as I'm concerned. As for the D, I'm not saying bench them, but split the reps. If they don't like it well it's supposed to me a "we not me" culture. As for trading players right now, I'm not down for that really. If we let them go and it doesn't work out, we're shit outta luck.

I agree on if Boom is out though. That's going to get really interesting.

 

[I like Rams]

These next few games are perfect for experimenting. Plus the bye. Like you said Mack, we gotta do something different.

 

[Merlin]

I swear to Christ if Demby is announced as the starter this week.....

 

[Loyal]

Havenstein is a RT and not a RG. Do you remember how bad he sucked when they tried that before? Whit may just retire on his own because why struggle on with a team that is suddenly a couple of years away from competing for the chip? Noteboom might be good at LT because that's what some team guys said, but right now I don't have much faith in anyone left on the Oline. Some guys may look bad because line mates may not be able to help each other out, due to inexperience or suckiness.

Getting a stud Olineman might be our #1 pick next year, as much as I know skill player lovers, hate that shyte! lol. As for ten games remaining, I have no hope that Goff can do anything sustainably good with an Oline like this. I'll watch and hope, and will start reading NFL Draft boards...

 

[Loyal]

The cowboys have lost 3 in a row.. the super bowl champ Eagles from a couple years ago not looking so good... The Chiefs lost two in a row..

Yeah It's hardly time to give up and talk about the rebuild yet.

All we can do is to strive to be mediocre. The only team we are even with in the division is the Cards, and they have won their last two games. There is a mass of mediocre teams out there that we have to somehow jockey past for a Wild Card. If our Oline quits drinking the suckass juice, you may be right...

 

[Loyal]

I swear to Christ if Demby is announced as the starter this week.....

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Hey @CGI_Ram, where's my Demby Mood image!?~ Merlin

 

[Riverumbbq]

yeah, but if we lose to Atlanta and barely win against Cincy?

I don't think we're at the point where we can infer success against anyone.

And if we lose, that'll tell us plenty.

Hoping we don't lose. that said, the last 3 weeks should disabuse anyone of the notion that this team a de facto favorite in any game going forward.

If we do happen to lose those games it will only tell us what we already know, that the Rams are in deep trouble. Perhaps a few more homers will come around to our way of thinking, but that's not what's really important. As far as 'favorites', i'll let the Vegas oddsmakers work that out.

Some believe a few of us are giving up and are talking about a rebuild, although most are just looking to tweek those few positions where our very unfriendly high CAP players are taking a disproportionate amount of money in comparison to their productivity. At this point in time, I have no objections to trading 4 of the 6 players destined to be lost to free agency should we find an out of division team that offers appropriate compensation (Whitworth & Blythe are saved from my knife), although I have doubts management will take this route anyway.

Our team is likely to get a good deal younger next year as Whitworth, Talib & Brockers head towards retirement or free agency, and that brings its own set of adventures, ... we're also set to lose Blythe, Peters & Fowler to free agency, perhaps also because salary hasn't quite met expectations, although Blythe, imo, has always been a kind of fill-in replacement player due to Jamon Brown's suspension & termination. Other than these 6 players whose potential departures have been well discussed for months, the remaining members of the starting team on both offense & defense appears fairly sound.

Purchasing new free agents in 2020 is made more difficult due to the exorbitant salaries now being paid to Goff and Gurley, but with expectations hovering around $45mil.+ worth of CAP availability, signing a couple of key players and our draft class is hardly impossible. Fortunately, I only have Littleton & Zuerlein on our UFA must re-sign list, so things aren't looking bad as long as we get free agency and the draft right. jmo.

 

[Adi]

Easy part of the schedule is approaching . Dont give up now!

BUT I'm driving 14 hours to atlanta next week , they better put up more than 200 yards!!

Trent Williams anyone ? Whitty seems 5 years older than last season.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Perhaps someone else mentioned it elsewhere, but we have been on the wrong side of luck a LOT this year.

Just this game...

• Littleton’s dropped INT.
• Henderson’s silly fumble.
• Garapollo’s TD run, no visual evidence either way, but ref called TD.

I seem to think there was another one or two... went against us instead of for us. Just weird.

GZ kick last week.

Good teams create their own luck, I do believe that. But, sometimes it IS a bounce of the ball and we need that karma to change soon!

 

[LesBaker]

4) McVay will continue to iterate and may find sporadic success, but his system is going to need an overhaul or he's gonna be a 1 hit wonder. I think McVay can do it (I mean he came out and ran it down their throats to start the game, but didn't seem to be able to leverage that)

How much PA did he use after running straight down the 49ers defense?

Shanny adjusted to cover up the shortcomings of his O today, and was able to get away with it because our O played so incredibly bad. But the 49ers won't be able to do so if they get into a shootout where Grabapole has to start dropping back to pass and pushing the ball down the field. If our O would have been like it was most of last year, they would have been in trouble.

JG is playing very, very good football this year. 70% completion and 8 YPA. He's more than capable of throwing downfield.

 

[SteveBrown]

Edwards to LG. It's time. IF he can settle in there and do a good job, things look different and it's about who is our LT in the offseason. But more importantly he's a physical player who moves well for his size and not having a liability there at LG might do more for this line than people realize.

I refuse to quit on this season just yet. Why? Because I still think our defense has better ball in them. If they play up to it, this team can still get into the playoffs.

If not, then we're on the draft before the end of the season. But personally I'm not there yet. Fix LG.

I'd also give Henderson 15+ carries a game. It's time. Put those kids who are chompin at the bit in there. Both him and Edwards have actual TALENT. Let's get this thing fixed one position and game at a time.

Baby steps.

Who replaced Boom when he got hurt?? Not Gumby, right? Demby, ya, ya, I know

 

[Ramit]

The cap ramifications alone make doing anything, but playing Gurley impossible.

The most they can do is pay him to sit or eat a MASSIVE cap crapburger.

That said, I think the issue for Gurley is this scheme and that they're using him almost solely in pass pro.

If they just revert to riding him like a rented mule (why not, we're 6 games in and 3 games back in the division with both tie breakers going to the 9ers and Seahawks), then we'll see, but Gurley is fine. We're just not using him.

The playoff issue is moot at this point. They can either unload this clip in the next few games to save the season or they can shut him down and give the rookies as much experience as they can because what is happening now absolutely will not lead to the post-season.

What kills me is that we have the receivers and QB to run the EP and the West Coast has these ups and downs with respect to productivity in the league. Anyone remember when almost no teams ran it because defenses were so on top of it???

Honestly, if McVay just threw out the playbook and ran a game plan from Joe Gibbs' playbook, I think this crew would just wreck. And the OL could focus mostly on run blocking which all are pretty good at.

Bro, I know that perhaps the core concepts of an EP and WC offense may be different. But all of the passing concepts and routes are still there between the 2. The only difference is the verbiage. Asking for an EP is like asking to change the name of the Corsica to Corvette and expecting it to be faster. Same car, different name.

 

[Ramstien]

McVay has got to do a better job of making in game adjustments, until that happens you're just see more of the same which is going to lead to a disappointing season. I was glad to see them come right out of the gate with the run game but when things started to unravel he did not adjust.

 

[ramsdonald99]

How much PA did he use after running straight down the 49ers defense?



JG is playing very, very good football this year. 70% completion and 8 YPA. He's more than capable of throwing downfield.

yes , JG is playing really well this year and his stats shows exactly that . Did you even search for the stats before posting it ? Here are the REAL stats

% completion - 62.2 %
Tds - 7
Int - 7
Fumbles - 6
yards per attempt - 7.0
Qb rating - 37.2 ( which is good for 27 th in the NFL )

But yeah , JG has been awesome . Of course I know it is not all his fault , the o line is a joke , but STILL , he COULD / SHOULD produce more . Every game he misses 1-2 easy throws for Tds . He has also been really inconsistent for the second half of last season and the playoffs / SB . If you ask me the biggest mistake this team did was extending him .

 

[Merlin]

Perhaps someone else mentioned it elsewhere, but we have been on the wrong side of luck a LOT this year.

Just this game...

• Littleton’s dropped INT.
• Henderson’s silly fumble.
• Garapollo’s TD run, no visual evidence either way, but ref called TD.

I seem to think there was another one or two... went against us instead of for us. Just weird.

GZ kick last week.

Good teams create their own luck, I do believe that. But, sometimes it IS a bounce of the ball and we need that karma to change soon!

This is very true and it's semantics but I prefer the term "missed opportunities" to luck. The field goal in Seattle alone just damn. But even in their wins they left so many points on the field it's crazy; last year's team those points were mostly scored and those close wins are blowouts.

I actually love this team the way it's constituted. So I'm in the "hope they get it fixed" stage. If I have to go into the "acceptance" stage (that some are already in around these parts) I will deal with that when it comes to it. But IMO there is enough talent for a turnaround IF the staff starts making some hard choices.

 

[I like Rams]

Perhaps someone else mentioned it elsewhere, but we have been on the wrong side of luck a LOT this year.

Just this game...

• Littleton’s dropped INT.
• Henderson’s silly fumble.
• Garapollo’s TD run, no visual evidence either way, but ref called TD.

I seem to think there was another one or two... went against us instead of for us. Just weird.

GZ kick last week.

Good teams create their own luck, I do believe that. But, sometimes it IS a bounce of the ball and we need that karma to change soon!

I like your optimism, but there's one huge stat your forgetting...our total yards. They showed the stats for yards at the beginning of the 4th and we were at -12 for the half. That's not going to win games. We can't rely on their fuck ups to win games. We have to play better.

 

[thirteen28]

I seem to think there was another one or two... went against us instead of for us. Just weird.

We had a couple Vinobitch short-spot specials too. Not why we lost, but that guy sure does love to screw us on spotting the ball.

JG is playing very, very good football this year. 70% completion and 8 YPA. He's more than capable of throwing downfield.

I have yet to see it, and sure didn't see it yesterday. I honestly get the feeling that Shanahan's confidence in JG isn't where it needs to be. And I think we would have seen his problems come to the fore yesterday had our offense even been in the same zip code as competent. Perhaps JG will get better as the season goes along, but what I've seen so far is a guy who mostly throws the safe passes (probably by the coach's design), short passes and screens. But I don't think JG is anywhere near the hype surrounding him.

 

[KayJay]

The cowboys have lost 3 in a row.. the super bowl champ Eagles from a couple years ago not looking so good... The Chiefs lost two in a row..

Yeah It's hardly time to give up and talk about the rebuild yet.

What's crazy about the Chiefs is they lost two in a row at home. Surprised the hell out of me.

 

[hotanez]

If it was up to me I would move A Blythe to center and sit Allen because he's just not ready. I would promote Brewer to RG to replace Blythe. If Noteboom is lost let Evens and Edwards battle it out for the LG spot. I know this sounds extreme but it's the Oline that's killing us right now. We need to change it up. NO MORE DEMBY PLEASE

 

[bluecoconuts]

Perhaps someone else mentioned it elsewhere, but we have been on the wrong side of luck a LOT this year.

Just this game...

• Littleton’s dropped INT.
• Henderson’s silly fumble.
• Garapollo’s TD run, no visual evidence either way, but ref called TD.

I seem to think there was another one or two... went against us instead of for us. Just weird.

GZ kick last week.

Good teams create their own luck, I do believe that. But, sometimes it IS a bounce of the ball and we need that karma to change soon!

We're also on the wrong side of the injury bug this year after being lucky the last few years.

I'm okay with retooling via draft a bit and coming back next year even stronger when the league is sleeping on us. Even if a SB is probably out of reach with this team and the playoffs are looking like a longer and longer shot, lots of games still to win on the schedule.