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Trollin bastid. :laugh3:
 
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RamFan503 said:
This probably is the most logical idea going around.
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The most logical explanation is it's a government contractor testing their equipment above their facilities and national airspace. If they are gov contractors the government is fully aware of what's going on but being that it's most likely classified they aren't going to share any information on it. Why should this surprise anyone? Did the gov tell us about the F22's, F35's, or even the first stealth bomber? Nope, and for the most part we didn't care because seeing a Jet isn't weird. Seeing a drone is.

The notion that they are nuke sniffing devices is kind of tin foil hat shit tbh. We have satellites that have this capability, it really makes zero sense.
 
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Jacobarch said:
The notion that they are nuke sniffing devices is kind of tin foil hat shit tbh. We have satellites that have this capability, it really makes zero sense.
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That is inaccurate. I can speak to that. The ability of sensors to function in a Broken Arrow environment is assisted by proximity of the sensors. It is assisted by other things as well, such as time of day, the sun being down for example.

Where satellites are most powerful is searching visually, and they do so with surprising potency. I was shocked at some of the images I saw over the course of my career in various briefs in given AoRs.

So when there is a military contractor who comes out and says he knows someone who was trying to brief the intel community on a situation he might be lying. Or he might not be. But this is not tin foil hat shit.

If you go back and look at the vid I posted previous page of the "drone landing" they at one point pan the parking lot which is packed with response vehicles and also black SUVs. Then later in the vid they show a clip of fire dept personnel searching the high grass in their gear. This type of stuff does not happen when authorities get a report of a drone landing. To mobilize them in that manner is something far more, either a WMD response, or a drill over a WMD response, or potentially things that range into your tin foil hat shit.
 
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Merlin said:
That is inaccurate. I can speak to that. The ability of sensors to function in a Broken Arrow environment is assisted by proximity of the sensors. It is assisted by other things as well, such as time of day, the sun being down for example.

Where satellites are most powerful is searching visually, and they do so with surprising potency. I was shocked at some of the images I saw over the course of my career in various briefs in given AoRs.

So when there is a military contractor who comes out and says he knows someone who was trying to brief the intel community on a situation he might be lying. Or he might not be. But this is not tin foil hat shit.

If you go back and look at the vid I posted previous page of the "drone landing" they at one point pan the parking lot which is packed with response vehicles and also black SUVs. Then later in the vid they show a clip of fire dept personnel searching the high grass in their gear. This type of stuff does not happen when authorities get a report of a drone landing. To mobilize them in that manner is something far more, either a WMD response, or a drill over a WMD response, or potentially things that range into your tin foil hat shit.
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Being that these types of capabilities are classified AF I doubt you would be sharing any knowledge on a fan forum. So there's that. Secondly, I'm simply taking the akums razor approach, with the simplest explanation being the best one. Which is what I previously stated. To go off on a tangent to simply put it, and say they are possibly sweeping for a dirty bomb is quite honestly jumping to conclusions without any facts behind them. Not to mention if that were the reason, the media and their loose lipped counterparts in HLS would have blown that theory wide open and there would be wide spread panic, because we all know the media loves a good story. Additionally 99% of the drones that I've seen have FAA lighting on them which tells me 99% of these drones are from a factory somewhere. Whether they are being tested by military contractors is still speculation but with the fact that a drone government contractor is out of NJ the bomb sniffy theory just sounds ridiculous.
 
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Jacobarch said:
Being that these types of capabilities are classified AF I doubt you would be sharing any knowledge on a fan forum. So there's that.
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I stopped well short of classified elements. The stuff I mentioned is all basic knowledge.

The link that was put up, not by myself mind you, where there is a military contractor making a claim, is not an example of anyone jumping to conclusions. The conversation is in fact following what he claimed. If you want to disregard it that is fine. But I answered your comment because it was rather condescending and dismissive, as well as inaccurate in some assumptions.
 
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Some interesting takeaways from today's Rogan vid...

1. These things are to some extent coming in off the water. This jives with the reports by a sheriff as well as the coast guard of drone swarms witnessed originating from the sea. Now I am certain that by this point they have searched the sea surface area (drones only have so much range) and looked for ships that might be supporting this. What might also be going on is potentially an adversary doing this from a converted sub, as that would escape the typical surface searches by launching/recovering in between long periods of submergence.

2. Anomalous behaviors are lengthy time on station and lack of heat signatures. There are also a small group of sightings that have included movements that would exacerbate both of those elements. Also there are different types of drones involved in all this. The orb like ones, which are the classic Foo Fighter type UAPs in some cases, and then the ones that appear to be fixed wing, which if true are likely ours as otherwise no matter what the govt is saying they would be shooting them down by now if they were not.

3. The people he knows who would be involved in a Broken Arrow, if that were what is going on here, have told him they are not involved in anything. This is good news.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQMMtPKT5E
 
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This dude's a bit excitable but I find him entertaining and he has some interesting collections of vids from the Jersey area. Also the orbs seen from the airliner look to be while it is at altitude, meaning they're at a healthy elevation.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpKu3V9ZyBU
 
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Merlin said:
Some interesting takeaways from today's Rogan vid...

1. These things are to some extent coming in off the water. This jives with the reports by a sheriff as well as the coast guard of drone swarms witnessed originating from the sea. Now I am certain that by this point they have searched the sea surface area (drones only have so much range) and looked for ships that might be supporting this. What might also be going on is potentially an adversary doing this from a converted sub, as that would escape the typical surface searches by launching/recovering in between long periods of submergence.

2. Anomalous behaviors are lengthy time on station and lack of heat signatures. There are also a small group of sightings that have included movements that would exacerbate both of those elements. Also there are different types of drones involved in all this. The orb like ones, which are the classic Foo Fighter type UAPs in some cases, and then the ones that appear to be fixed wing, which if true are likely ours as otherwise no matter what the govt is saying they would be shooting them down by now if they were not.

3. The people he knows who would be involved in a Broken Arrow, if that were what is going on here, have told him they are not involved in anything. This is good news.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQMMtPKT5E
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Listened to the whole episode and I love joe but sometimes the dude is all over the place with theories etc. Which sometimes I appreciate but this episode was a little much for me.
Again with everything that was said in this episode and with the expertise of Graves and his contacts the most logical explanation is they are our drones being run by a top secret program. This goes all the way back to 2018 (or was it three years ago? Don't remember )when they started, while in a smaller amount either way this is nothing new. Difference is now in more abundance.
Part of the problem also with the videos that are coming out, there's a ton of fake stuff out there. And with AI being so rampant it's super easy to fake something and pass it along as real. Wild times we live in but at this point I'm gonna bet we aren't being told because they don't have to or want to.

What I was real interested in was the James Webb top secret meeting. I tried looking online for something on it but couldn't find anything credible other than reddit BS.
 
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