Trade Deadline Rumors and Trades

[payote75]

BTW, please show me one post where I or anyone else has said a RB can win you a game single-handedly?

You created a strawman argument that no one here has made.

All I am saying he has a chance of being a difference maker in January, especially in a cold weather city like Philly, where a running game and big plays from it, can help win you a game when you have a game manager for a QB and a great defense backing that up.

That's great no need to get so defensive...what you say is true a difference maker though can be almost any position if we really must get technical... however we are talking the whiners here and also that a RB typically isn't the piece that's puts you over the top. Applying that to this situation say teams gear to stop the run will rat face not choke will Jimmy rise to the occasion? That's speaks to there team.

While football is always evolving look at the Patriots never really a bell cow RB by committee.....giants basically the same.....chiefs .....you can still win without a fantastic RB typically you cant win with some of the other more important positions.

 

[payote75]

They blew a 24 point lead in the second half because they couldn't run the ball. That game could have gone either way at that point. Be real about that fact.

I am they wouldnt of had a 24 pt lead lead without a real QB and recievers let alone the reason they allowed Tampa no was fumbles.
You seem to think I hate RB or something but on the list of what makes a Superbowl team a contender or winner usually has running backs lower on the list.

You can win a Superbowl with a mediocre RB or a committee but sure it's nice to have a CMC or Henry.

There is a perfect example Tennessee good o-line good defense amazing RB QB is subpar and they go nowhere

 

[PhillyRam]

I am they wouldnt of had a 24 pt lead lead without a real QB and recievers let alone the reason they allowed Tampa no was fumbles.
You seem to think I hate RB or something but on the list of what makes a Superbowl team a contender or winner usually has running backs lower on the list.

You can win a Superbowl with a mediocre RB or a committee but sure it's nice to have a CMC or Henry.

There is a perfect example Tennessee good o-line good defense amazing RB QB is subpar and they go nowhere

You can win with a mediocre QB as well. Nick Foles, an aged shell of himself Peyton Manning, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco, etc...

Again, the point is he can help them get to a SB. They are better now than they were yesterday. That's all I am saying. I mean McSnead tried to get him too... I guess they are not as smart as you are.

So I give up...

 

[payote75]

You can win with a mediocre QB as well. Nick Foles, an aged shell of himself Peyton Manning, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco, etc...

Again, the point is he can help them get to a SB. They are better now than they were yesterday. That's all I am saying. I mean McSnead tried to get him too... I guess they are not as smart as you are.

So I give up...

Mitigating factors some of the best defenses ever and besides one the other two were during a the period where the run was crucial. The game has since evolved.

Once more I'm not saying the RB is inconsequential I'm just saying a running back doesn't necessarily win you games in that manner.
I agree in a perfect world you want a good QB and a good RB but one is clearly more important than the other these days.
You can build around defensive stars or Qbs you don't build around a RB.
Hence why they are being taken in the 1st round very scarcely.

 

[Kupped]

The Athletic has a new article with guys who *may* be available.. and there are a few OL guys who have a Corbett “feel” to me.

 

[ReekofRams]

 

[Riverumbbq]

The Athletic has a new article with guys who *may* be available.. and there are a few OL guys who have a Corbett “feel” to me.

Are you going to tell us or just run out the clock.

 

[Mackeyser]

I’m seeing more from the Cleveland side about D’Ernest Johnson coming to the Rams.

I actually like that like better than CMC, but we’ll see if it happens.

 

[payote75]

I’m seeing more from the Cleveland side about D’Ernest Johnson coming to the Rams.

I actually like that like better than CMC, but we’ll see if it happens.

Yes that allows us to do other things if we choose and he and kyron may make an excellent tandem with one hopefully emerging as a killer.

Wouldn't it be funny if Kyron or if we get Johnson wind up playing better than CMC or not as funny cause don't want to see anyone hurt but if CMC ends up where he usually ends up IR.

 

[PhillyRam]

Mitigating factors some of the best defenses ever and besides one the other two were during a the period where the run was crucial. The game has since evolved.

Once more I'm not saying the RB is inconsequential I'm just saying a running back doesn't necessarily win you games in that manner.
I agree in a perfect world you want a good QB and a good RB but one is clearly more important than the other these days.
You can build around defensive stars or Qbs you don't build around a RB.
Hence why they are being taken in the 1st round very scarcely.

You want to talk mitigating circumstances on why some teams win with avg QBs, but not the playoff games the Rams won last year. For them it was they won and case closed.

Kind of hilarious...

 

[Allen2McVay]

The Athletic has a new article with guys who *may* be available.. and there are a few OL guys who have a Corbett “feel” to me.

Can you share some names? Fun to think about that stuff.

Kind of like the Boobie and Booty threads.

 

[payote75]

You want to talk mitigating circumstances on why some teams win with avg QBs, but not the playoff games the Rams won last year. For them it was they won and case closed.

Kind of hilarious...

Your just rambling take a poll. If you just want to be obsessed on the RB position that's totally your right.
To simplify for the 15th time all I'm saying it's not usually a championship altering move for that position. A run game can be shutdown out right. And I'm saying it does improve the niners but that wasn't there weakness there is a reason why most gms see it the same way. It's almost a surprise when a RB gets taken in the first round now. Why is that? It's a devalued position having said that I'm also agreeing to an extent that itay be too devalued but not typically a Superbowl altering move.

See bills if he was is there a team more set up to win it and yet they backed out.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Since 2018, the Rams have drafted starters SJD, Fuller and Kendrick in the 6th.

Rapp, Akers, Jefferson are starters from the second round.

@Elmgrovegnome … what are you talking about?

There was a chart that listed every round. It listed success rate for each round. It’s likely that because Snead has amassed so many 6th round picks that it lowered his success rate. But of all the rounds the sixth round has had the lowest success rate.

So if he had 3 good players out of 35 picks in round 6 then his success rate for that round would be lower than say 2 successful picks out of 15 4th round picks.

He actually has had more success in round 7 than in round six.

It’s ironic because he has accumulated more 6th round picks than any round.

 

[dang]

I’m seeing more from the Cleveland side about D’Ernest Johnson coming to the Rams.

I actually like that like better than CMC, but we’ll see if it happens.

That would be a much smarter move. Allowing for another OL or Edge player as well before the trade deadline that won’t cripple the Rams for several years to come.

 

[PARAM]

There was a chart that listed every round. It listed success rate for each round. It’s likely that because Snead has amassed so many 6th round picks that it lowered his success rate. But of all the rounds the sixth round has had the lowest success rate.

So if he had 3 good players out of 35 picks in round 6 then his success rate for that round would be lower than say 2 successful picks out of 15 4th round picks.

He actually has had more success in round 7 than in round six.

It’s ironic because he has accumulated more 6th round picks than any round.

By my count he was 1 for 8 with Fisher (Greg Z) and 2 for 7 with McVay (SJD, Fuller). Too early to know about the 2 from this year (Kendrick, Lake). A good comparison would be how is his average vs the league? What percentage of 6th round picks are "hits"?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

The more I look at it, I also hope David Montgomery is given a look. He's be a good add and should cost less.

 

[Kupped]

There was a chart that listed every round. It listed success rate for each round. It’s likely that because Snead has amassed so many 6th round picks that it lowered his success rate. But of all the rounds the sixth round has had the lowest success rate.

So if he had 3 good players out of 35 picks in round 6 then his success rate for that round would be lower than say 2 successful picks out of 15 4th round picks.

He actually has had more success in round 7 than in round six.

It’s ironic because he has accumulated more 6th round picks than any round.

I guess I just see “success” very, very differently.
In the last 5 drafts he’s gotten 3 starters… pretty good ones, too.

Again… based on the value of the picks.. tremendously successful.

 

[Kupped]

Can you share some names? Fun to think about that stuff.

Kind of like the Boobie and Booty threads.

Jackson Carman
Ben Cleveland
Matt Hennessy

Dillard & Wynn are there as well

 

[Allen2McVay]

A 2023 & 2024 6'th for Johnson.

For Burns :
Our 2024 2'nd
DT A'Shawn Robinson
S Taylor Rapp
WR Tutu Atwell
TE Brycen Hopkins

I doubt that would interest Carolina. Robinson and Rapp are going to be free agents; and the other two (Atwell and Hopkins) have two career regular season receptions.

I would think Brian Burns would bring-back much more than that. Rams might have to start with their 2023 second round pick and their 2024 first round selection.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Jackson Carman
Ben Cleveland
Matt Hennessy

Dillard & Wynn are there as well

Thank you