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That's cool my hate for him would certainly fade. Still would have to wash the whiner stink off which could take several years with 2 daily applications.
I hate everything associated with the 69ers. But the 69 stink would wash off Purdy pretty quickly for me if he’s traded. His story is inspiring and his character is admirable.
Puka on Julian Edelman's podcast said he thought the shitters window could still be open if Purdy takes a lesser team friendly deal in somewhere in the mid 40 mil area. He thought the window would no longer be open if he signed for 50 mil plus.
I got news for him. The window is closing fast even with a cheaper deal. Next year the top 3 guys cap hit is over 100 mil. In 2027 the top 4 guys will be 130 mil. That is without a new deal for Purdy. Their dead cap hit for this year is a league high 80 million.
McCaffrey's heavy use came at a price. He's not longer an elite running back with the achilles issues. And his position has a short shelf life. A 29 year old running back is like a 33-34 year old receiver or DB.
Trent Williams is injury prone. Sometimes doesn't seem to be interested in football. Will probably find a reason to hold out during camp.
Aiyuk was not good before the injury. Odds of him being the 2023 guy again are slim. That was a pretty brutal injury. Both ACL and MCL. And he probably won't be available till November. If they move on from Aiyuk after this season his dead cap hit will be 55 million next year.
They showed how good they are when things around Purdy are not optimal. And things likely won't be optimal this season. And will get worse next season.
I got news for him. The window is closing fast even with a cheaper deal. Next year the top 3 guys cap hit is over 100 mil. In 2027 the top 4 guys will be 130 mil. That is without a new deal for Purdy. Their dead cap hit for this year is a league high 80 million.
McCaffrey's heavy use came at a price. He's not longer an elite running back with the achilles issues. And his position has a short shelf life. A 29 year old running back is like a 33-34 year old receiver or DB.
Trent Williams is injury prone. Sometimes doesn't seem to be interested in football. Will probably find a reason to hold out during camp.
Aiyuk was not good before the injury. Odds of him being the 2023 guy again are slim. That was a pretty brutal injury. Both ACL and MCL. And he probably won't be available till November. If they move on from Aiyuk after this season his dead cap hit will be 55 million next year.
They showed how good they are when things around Purdy are not optimal. And things likely won't be optimal this season. And will get worse next season.
Not sure why the whiners always delay settling contracts then give in anyway. They did it with Bosa and with Aiyuk. They seem headed that way with Purdy.
I agree that Purdy is a product of a good system and he would have been average at best if he was drafted elsewhere. Rat Boy's system is QB friendly but thank goodness that they didn't get Stafford instead of the Rams because the whiners would have won a ring with Stafford, IMO.
Why is Puka even commenting? That seems odd. Shouldn’t he be supporting guys getting paid.
Elmgrovegnome
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The Niners would have to have an incredible draft this year if they are to compete for a Super Bowl. It would have to be better than the Rams last two drafts combined. I don’t think it’s possible to replace all of the players they lost with similarly talented players and three of the stars that you mentioned being injured.
Sounded to me like he was giving an opinion. Team friendly deal and the window is still open. Break the bank and it closes. Personally I disagree with him on that one. I think the window is closing fast with or without a huge deal for Purdy.
Its an hour and 40 minutes long. Scroll down the page and you'll see the whole podcast with Puka and Edelman.
www.49erswebzone.com
Puka Nacua shares candid thoughts on Fred Warner, SoFi takeovers by 49ers fans
Puka Nacua praises Fred Warner and reveals what it's like facing a takeover of SoFi Stadium by 49ers fans during Rams home games.
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I think they should try to trade Purdy for a first, maybe N.O., Pittsburg or Cleveland at 33 would be interested. Sign Rodgers to a two year deal and have two high picks. Pick a developmental qb with a later pick. Maybe I’m crazy but I’d sell Purdy if the market is there.
McCaffrey juiced their team and chances but yeah since they choked in that mini-window they ended up burned by his signing. It's funny how impactful RBs are, I mean Philly did the same shit but got it done because of their overall team quality.
You just don't want to pay them too much. Over and over again teams get burned by that. Feels like dudes in that role are at their best when they're making their bones and vying for the big paycheck. Saquon obviously was an outlier but he's always been a super elite talent. Good as this draft is there is no Saquon in it for example but he's a player of rare quality.
SF will almost certainly unearth a good back from this class though and whoever it is will benefit from Ratboy's scheming. I think McCaffrey's window is over.
You just don't want to pay them too much. Over and over again teams get burned by that. Feels like dudes in that role are at their best when they're making their bones and vying for the big paycheck. Saquon obviously was an outlier but he's always been a super elite talent. Good as this draft is there is no Saquon in it for example but he's a player of rare quality.
SF will almost certainly unearth a good back from this class though and whoever it is will benefit from Ratboy's scheming. I think McCaffrey's window is over.
I was curious what the latest was with Purdy.
According to AI:
The latest reports on Brock Purdy’s contract extension with the San Francisco 49ers indicate that negotiations are ongoing but have not yet reached an agreement. As of April 17, 2025, the 49ers have made an offer to Purdy, but his camp has not accepted it, and the two sides are reportedly not close to a deal. NBC Sports’ Matt Maiocco noted that the 49ers’ offer is not one Purdy’s team is inclined to take, suggesting a gap in expectations, with the “sweet spot” for a deal potentially in the low to mid-$50 million per year range. Purdy’s camp appears to be aiming for a higher annual average, possibly around $60 million, aligning with top-tier quarterback salaries like Dak Prescott’s.
The 49ers are motivated to secure Purdy long-term, with GM John Lynch expressing optimism about finalizing a deal, potentially before the offseason program begins in mid-April. However, the team is leveraging Purdy’s final year on his rookie contract (under $6 million for 2025) to negotiate a figure below the top market rate. Some reports suggest the 49ers are hesitant to pay Purdy at the absolute top of the quarterback market (e.g., $60 million per year), citing his reliance on the team’s system and a disappointing 6-11 season in 2024. An NFL executive told The Athletic that Purdy’s contract might not reach the reported $60 million annually, given his modest earnings to date and the possibility of franchise tags in 2026 and 2027.
Speculation on the contract’s total value varies widely. Some sources, like Craig Carton, have claimed a deal could exceed $300 million over five or six years, though this remains unconfirmed. Others, like Sporting News, estimate a minimum of $171 million over four or five years. The 49ers’ recent roster moves, including trading Deebo Samuel and losing 17 players in free agency, are partly attributed to preparing cap space for Purdy’s expected massive extension. There’s also discussion about whether Purdy might hold out or “hold in” (attend but not practice) during offseason activities if no deal is reached by the start of OTAs on April 23, 2025, following the precedent set by teammates like Brandon Aiyuk and Nick Bosa.
In summary, while both sides want a deal, negotiations are stalled over the annual salary, with the 49ers aiming for around $50-55 million per year and Purdy’s side likely pushing for closer to $60 million. No definitive timeline exists, but the situation remains fluid as the offseason progresses.
According to AI:
The latest reports on Brock Purdy’s contract extension with the San Francisco 49ers indicate that negotiations are ongoing but have not yet reached an agreement. As of April 17, 2025, the 49ers have made an offer to Purdy, but his camp has not accepted it, and the two sides are reportedly not close to a deal. NBC Sports’ Matt Maiocco noted that the 49ers’ offer is not one Purdy’s team is inclined to take, suggesting a gap in expectations, with the “sweet spot” for a deal potentially in the low to mid-$50 million per year range. Purdy’s camp appears to be aiming for a higher annual average, possibly around $60 million, aligning with top-tier quarterback salaries like Dak Prescott’s.
The 49ers are motivated to secure Purdy long-term, with GM John Lynch expressing optimism about finalizing a deal, potentially before the offseason program begins in mid-April. However, the team is leveraging Purdy’s final year on his rookie contract (under $6 million for 2025) to negotiate a figure below the top market rate. Some reports suggest the 49ers are hesitant to pay Purdy at the absolute top of the quarterback market (e.g., $60 million per year), citing his reliance on the team’s system and a disappointing 6-11 season in 2024. An NFL executive told The Athletic that Purdy’s contract might not reach the reported $60 million annually, given his modest earnings to date and the possibility of franchise tags in 2026 and 2027.
Speculation on the contract’s total value varies widely. Some sources, like Craig Carton, have claimed a deal could exceed $300 million over five or six years, though this remains unconfirmed. Others, like Sporting News, estimate a minimum of $171 million over four or five years. The 49ers’ recent roster moves, including trading Deebo Samuel and losing 17 players in free agency, are partly attributed to preparing cap space for Purdy’s expected massive extension. There’s also discussion about whether Purdy might hold out or “hold in” (attend but not practice) during offseason activities if no deal is reached by the start of OTAs on April 23, 2025, following the precedent set by teammates like Brandon Aiyuk and Nick Bosa.
In summary, while both sides want a deal, negotiations are stalled over the annual salary, with the 49ers aiming for around $50-55 million per year and Purdy’s side likely pushing for closer to $60 million. No definitive timeline exists, but the situation remains fluid as the offseason progresses.
Face it. Every team is fucked by a successful QB on their second contract. If they are truly top 5 the $$ is arguably worth it. If they are above average to good they are likely overpaid and cripple a teams ability to strengthen players around the QB. I’d like to see a cap rule where no single player can constitute more than 18% of a teams cap for a year. Call it the Deshaun Watson rule.
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I don’t think you are crazy. If I was the Niners I’d definitely see what kind of trade offers I could get. They’ve lost enough players to be in a sort of rebuild already. If they successfully traded Purdy they might be enticed to trade some others and go full on rebuild. Stockpiling 2026 draft picks would be a good way to go.
Either way, Shanahan has had success with lesser QBs. He could probably build an offense with Shaddeur, or like you said, sign Rodgers for a year or two. Then he could draft a QB next year.
Yeah, an above average quarterback is gonna get paid. There aren't enough above average quarterbacks to go around. But like you said, paying them makes it much harder to build a quality team around them. And they aren't elite so they can't carry a team like an elite quarterback can when things are less than optimal. There really should be something in place to limit the damage that paying a quarterback does to a team's cap space. The 18 percent you mentioned would be around 50 mil. That would not cripple a team's cap space as much as 60 mil. I'd even go so far as advocating for a 15 percent limit.
