Ramsey traded to Miami for ‘23 3rd rd pick(#77 overall) and TE Hunter Long

[ottoman89]

Jordan essentially states it's not assured that Ramsey is traded in this article. I said that it was a possibility that this was the case earlier. Is it possible that teams are trying to see if we're willing to trade Ramsey cuz they see us over the cap and the media is spinning that story for click bait? Maybe

I hope it's just media bullshit!!

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I hope it's just media bullshit!!

Same here.....I'm just not believing anything until it happens or doesn't happen at this point. I still think it's crazy to get rid of him. Plus I can see teams not wanting to pay the price of admission when they can get a youngster at the fraction of a price although that doesn't guarantee they'll be able to even hold Ramsey's jock strap.

 

[Malibu]

Biggest problem is we had shitty safeties. Morris was definitely impacted by them. That affects what you can call and how you can approach things. This is why Staley flipped the safeties when he came in. This is where Morris made his biggest mistake in not doing the same.

Second biggest problem is we had a bunch of corners who did not take a step forward. Guys like Rochell and Long who were in their window to produce and fizzled. That left the DC holding the bag with a combination of rooks and an aging star with a shitty mood streak.

Third biggest problem is Morris is mediocre. Not good enough for a perennial contender. It's a good thing he's McVay's buddy, because if he wasn't his ass would have gotten walking papers in spite of the above. McVay generally does not hold on to staff who don't produce but Morris is going to get another year and I hope he makes the most of it for our sakes.

To me this take is exactly right, safeties suck always slow to the ball, missing tackles, no steps forward for Long or Rochelle imo and the biggest issue is Morris the reason why I say this look what Staley did in a year, look what Martindale did with a mediocre Defense. Great Coords can make their mark immediately with their talent. Just look at what McVay did compared to Fisher, Daboll compared to Judge etc. He needs to be fired.

 

[Malibu]

Here is the most important issue to me IF we are trading JR (I don't want them to) but IF we are going to they must have a game plan in advance. That being trading for a star FA or Snead has a specific or a couple 1st rounders in mind that he and McVay and the scounts in love with.

 

[AvengerRam]

I have no doubt many are fishing.

Don’t know if anybody is biting.

 

[Dodgersrf]

I have no doubt many are fishing.

Don’t know if anybody is biting.

I would have to believe, they are getting numerous nibbles.

 

[PhillyRam]

I get that logic but we only save a little this season. I think I was stating it more from our defense pov it will not be as remotely as good without Ramsey. Maybe we could lose Wagner and survive but not Ramsey imo. Just not fair to AD who was contemplating retiring I sincerely doubt before he made his decision the braintrust came to him and said you know we may need to lose some key guys.

Ramsey opens up $33M of cap room over 23' & 24'. That allows you to restructure Kupp and maybe others to push money into next yr where Ramsey's entire $28M cap hit goes away.

So its not just the $5.6M he saves you this yr on a trade, it also gives them some flexibility since it relieves next yrs tight cap situation and better allows them to push money into next yr with restructures.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Jourdan also mentions that the Rams could look into trading Robinson and eating some of his contract. It's really only speculation though.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Ramsey opens up $33M of cap room over 23' & 24'. That allows you to restructure Kupp and maybe others to push money into next yr where Ramsey's entire $28M cap hit goes away.

So its not just the $5.6M he saves you this yr on a trade, it also gives them some flexibility since it relieves next yrs tight cap situation and better allows them to push money into next yr with restructures.

So far it seems like the Rams may not bite if they don't get one hell of an offer. Doesn't seem they are solely focused on simply just creating cap room. We'll know sooner than later though what their plan is.

 

[Malibu]

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[QUOTE="El Chapo Jr, post: 1690294, Most of us are arguing that if we truly are going all in, why get rid of a stud corner instead of extending him?

Agree. This is the Rams dilemma now. They are being pushed into a new path forward— what could be called a rebuild— by circumstances, one decision at a time.

Rams built a Super Bowl champion by having a small core of great, experienced players, with the rest of the roster backfilled with lower round picks and opportunistic signings. The model worked in 2021 but fell apart last year. They lost not only Whit but Miller from that team. Now they have lost Wagner and may be “losing” Ramsey.

So the old model may be kaput, because the circumstances now may be that they are better off filling other holes in the roster rather than keeping a star (pun intended) cb who was crucial to a championship.

These may well be the right decisions but they are unlikely to result in Rams contending for the Super Bowl this year. Of course, neither might any other path forward right now.
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Whit is the only one we truly missed. Von came at 8 games in plus some extra time off due to an injury. You're counting on Von like he was there all that year he wasn't and his stats only kicked in in the playoffs not the reg season. The DL/OLBs were doing great prior to Von coming.

Like i say over and the injuries derailed the team and not having a credible solid LT Noteboom was a disaster and all you need to to a compare and contrast to Whits stats at age 40 Whit had the same stats in 16 compared to Noteboom had only in 5 a total disaster.

The injuries were unheard of since 1974 that's 49 years of season no team had as many injuries in the OL. Combine that with top 2 wrs, injuries to RBs, star DLman, CB issues and starting FS really like I say name one team that could thrive in that shit storm none could.

 

[AvengerRam]

I would have to believe, they are getting numerous nibbles.

No…I’m suggesting the Rams are the fish.

 

[Malibu]

THIS JUST IN:

It’s March 2 and Jalen Ramsey is still a Ram.

(And Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.)

I think teams before trading for him want to hedge their bets by waiting for these top 1st round CBs perform at the combine and at their pro days. Why checking in one last time if one of these players can fill the void of Ramsey or not. Obviously they won't be the level of JR but if they see some version of sauce Gardner there why take JR at his exorbinant contract?

To me Ramsey fits with a team that is on the cusp of making a deep run and maybe a Superbowl that's not Detroit it's more like SF, Minny, Dallas, Cincy, Buff, Miami, Chargers, Raiders if they get Rodgers, Balt if they keep Lamar. To me it would be stupid to send him to an NFC team unless that team is not a contender like Detroit then it's ok.

 

[dang]

So far it seems like the Rams may not bite if they don't get one hell of an offer. Doesn't seem they are solely focused on simply just creating cap room. We'll know sooner than later though what their plan is.

First. I like Ramsey not just for his level of play but even more for fire he brings to the defense. If the Rams keep Ramsey - extent him, find a shut down CB1 this year to play opposite Ramsey, then next year move Ramsey to Safety. Rams then field New Guy at CB1, Durant at CB2, Scott at SS and Ramsey at FS.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

First. I like Ramsey not just for his level of play but for also for fire he brings to the defense. If the Rams keep Ramsey - extent him and find a shut down CB1 this year to play opposite Ramsey. Then next year move Ramsey to Safety resulting in New Guy at CB1, Durant at CB2, Scott at SS and Ramsey at FS.

What if Ramsey shows out at CB though? Honestly, I hope we can find a way to keep him and add more talent to make another run. Time will tell if he's part of the plan.

 

[So Ram]

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Agree. This is the Rams dilemma now. They are being pushed into a new path forward— what could be called a rebuild— by circumstances, one decision at a time.

Rams built a Super Bowl champion by having a small core of great, experienced players, with the rest of the roster backfilled with lower round picks and opportunistic signings. The model worked in 2021 but fell apart last year. They lost not only Whit but Miller from that team. Now they have lost Wagner and may be “losing” Ramsey.

So the old model may be kaput, because the circumstances now may be that they are better off filling other holes in the roster rather than keeping a star (pun intended) cb who was crucial to a championship.

These may well be the right decisions but they are unlikely to result in Rams contending for the Super Bowl this year. Of course, neither might any other path forward right now.

Whit is the only one we truly missed. Von came at 8 games in plus some extra time off due to an injury. You're counting on Von like he was there all that year he wasn't and his stats only kicked in in the playoffs not the reg season. The DL/OLBs were doing great prior to Von coming.

Like i say over and the injuries derailed the team and not having a credible solid LT Noteboom was a disaster and all you need to to a compare and contrast to Whits stats at age 40 Whit had the same stats in 16 compared to Noteboom had only in 5 a total disaster.

The injuries were unheard of since 1974 that's 49 years of season no team had as many injuries in the OL. Combine that with top 2 wrs, injuries to RBs, star DLman, CB issues and starting FS really like I say name one team that could thrive in that shit storm none could.
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We’ll I don’t know if this has been said,but The Rams basically went into rebuilding mode after they were out of it & Stafford(Kupp),AD99 went down.

—I like the structure of this team in once Jalen Ramsey is GONE then The Rams have leverage to move ideas(players)around.

ALL the majority of posters can say or think what they want. It’s very obvious this is just about a DONE DEAL!! We have less than 2 weeks before this becomes a REALIZATION instead of speculation.
Sean Mcvay is down in the trenches grinding it out behind the scenes.He is figuring out the offense with certain players in mind.
Raheem Morris has a NEW GROUP & Eric Henderson is right there learning the tricks of the trade.
—IMO most Ram Fans don’t know what The Rams have. I’ll say it’s hard to see which way The Rams go just with their own players.
Once again IMO Nick Scott & DT A”Robinson are core players on defense The Rams don’t want to lose.
—It’s easy to play this he said she said thing,but this Rams defense is going to get restructured The Right way IMO.
Jalen Ramsey is a player The Rams can’t RETAIN!! He is also a WILDCARD!! He can only be trusted so FAR!!

 

[So Ram]

First. I like Ramsey not just for his level of play but even more for fire he brings to the defense. If the Rams keep Ramsey - extent him, find a shut down CB1 this year to play opposite Ramsey, then next year move Ramsey to Safety. Rams then field New Guy at CB1, Durant at CB2, Scott at SS and Ramsey at FS.

LMAO — that’s FANTASY!! Les Snead(Demoff) don’t structure the pay (cap)scale that way.

Sounds great though - right on

Go Rams!! I drink the KOOL-AIDE,but not that stuff. Talk about psychedelics.

 

[gogoat1]

Stop it with this trade JR stuff. Let him retire a Ram. He is a dog and he could end up his career like Ronnie Lott. Good enough for me.
People play too much fantasy football and think they are GMs.

 

[Corbin]

Stop it with this trade JR stuff. Let him retire a Ram. He is a dog and he could end up his career like Ronnie Lott. Good enough for me.
People play too much fantasy football and think they are GMs.

Like Ronnie Lott. You Stop it. You apparently never watched or remembered Lott. Ramsey is cutting off his finger to play? Ramsey gets burned and immediately turns to someone else to shift the blame. Lott did this all the time

 

[Loyal]

Yeah, the reality is… the Donald and Kupp extensions are very likely the reason we are having this conversation.

Donald and Kupp hater!

 

[CGI_Ram]

Tons of speculation articles out there. What I am trying to learn from them is Ramsey’s perceived market value.

This one suggests 2nd rounder, plus.

This Falcons-Rams Trade Sends Jalen Ramsey To Atlanta

This trade between the Atlanta Falcons and Los Angeles Rams results in star cornerback Jalen Ramsey being on the move.

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