Rams Not Done? Orlovsky Floats Big WR Trade Idea

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Watching The Pat McAfee Show NFL Draft coverage tonight on YouTube, Dan Orlovsky threw out something that caught my ear.

He said he wouldn’t be surprised if the Rams aren’t done yet this offseason and mentioned the possibility of going after a George Pickens or A.J. Brown, potentially for future picks.

I don’t have a clip, just something I caught live during the McAfee stream tonight.

Thinking it through a bit, either of those guys probably comes in as a great WR2 next to Puka, and Admas as WR3, which would give the Rams a really well-rounded receiving group.

If they could pull something like that off, it actually makes tonight’s Ty Simpson move and the rest of their offseason feel more connected, kind of threading the needle between “win now” and setting things up for the next few years.

That said… giving up future 1sts or other valuable picks would be a big swing, especially with how they’ve been building lately.



 
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I absolutely believe we intend to strengthen the offense this offseason. If it doesn't happen over the next couple days I suspect a deal or FA signing.
 
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Memento said:
OH, PLEASE FUCKING HELL, NOT PICKENS!

Can't we just draft a younger mercurial diva for a receiver instead?
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For the record, I am not for them trading for a WR. I too would rather see them draft someone. But...

On the flip side, what are the chances a young draftee will be as good as Pickens or Brown? Probably a 20% chance. And even if the draftee turned out as good, what are the chances they would be as good out the gate? Probably 5%.

It makes some sense to go the vet WR route. My big hope is that if they go this route they can avoid giving up the 2027 1st.
 
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DzRams said:
For the record, I am not for them trading for a WR. I too would rather see them draft someone. But...

On the flip side, what are the chances a young draftee be as good as Pickens or Brown? Probably a 20% chance. It makes some sense to go the vet WR route. My big hope is that if they go this route they can avoid giving up the 2027 1st.
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Pickens is not only going to require a huge contract (so that we likely lose Puka or gut our entire team), but is a mercurial diva who doesn't even block for his running backs. How does that fit the McVay offense and/or locker room?

The draftee is younger, cheaper, and likely not as mercurial and/or diva-ish than Pickens has been and is. I'd rather take the lottery ticket on the draftee.
 
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Memento said:
Pickens is not only going to require a huge contract (so that we likely lose Puka or gut our entire team), but is a mercurial diva who doesn't even block for his running backs. How does that fit the McVay offense and/or locker room?

The draftee is younger, cheaper, and likely not as mercurial and/or diva-ish than Pickens has been and is. I'd rather take the lottery ticket on the draftee.
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The arguments in favor of the draftee are why I'd like to go that path. But I'd understand if the Rams want to dip into 2027 resources and go with a vet. They are straddling the fence between the present and the future.

I'm not arguing for it being Pickens, but if they do trade for Pickens that means they feel that he fits the culture. If he doesn't fit the culture we won't see him in horns.
 
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DzRams said:
For the record, I am not for them trading for a WR. I too would rather see them draft someone. But...

On the flip side, what are the chances a young draftee will be as good as Pickens or Brown? Probably a 20% chance. And even if the draftee turned out as good, what are the chances they would be as good out the gate? Probably 5%.

It makes some sense to go the vet WR route. My big hope is that if they go this route they can avoid giving up the 2027 1st.
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Agreed, but that makes the Simpson selection all the more frustrating. In a draft class, that deep with WR and OT talent, the Rams readily passed on that opportunity. Theoretically, it's a bold move that could be argued to be forward thinking and capitalizing on an opportunity by taking a QB prospect you're in love with ahead of actually needing him while allowing time to groom him. I admit that. However, I disagree with that and point to the front office's track record.

McVay took the Rams job because he thought he could win with Goff, but that obviously didn't prove true. As much as I like Goff as a person, his consistent late-game bad decisions were frustrating. Simpson, on the other hand, supposedly has higher football IQ but I believe not as much natural physical talent, though I don't believe there's too much separation in that regard. Maybe it will work with Simpson, but it didn't work with Mannion or Bennett. Granted the latter two were picked later, but it shows that outside of Stafford, whom the organization traded for after he established himself as an NFL stalwart, both Snead and McVay haven't hit with their QB selections in Los Angeles, but I digress.

This is why I'm so frustrated that the Rams missed on an opportunity to address a premium position of need with a high draft pick, which is rare for this team nowadays. Sure we missed on the top-shelf talents of Tate and Tyson and I wasn't exactly thrilled with Lemon, to be honest, even though he looks like a typical Rams receiver. The team could have drafted my personal favorite prospect in Monroe Freeling to be part of the offensive line rotation as a backup even while he was being developed or traded down to go after Omar Cooper, Jr. This class may not have an elite talent at WR like a Jeremiah Smith in 2027, Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, or even Tetairoa McMillan but it was certainly deep.

Maybe because of that depth, the Rams figured they could snag someone similar to Lemon later and even still now, but I also get the feeling that they are or have been targeting the likes of A.J. Brown and/or George Pickens, both of whom will likely be dumped by their respective teams. I'm not really in favor of going after either one even if I prefer the former over the latter, but I'm certainly opposed to giving up a first-round pick for either of them. I'm not even inclined to give up a second-rounder. I suspect the Rams do subscribe to your thinking in that regard.

Memento said:
Pickens is not only going to require a huge contract (so that we likely lose Puka or gut our entire team), but is a mercurial diva who doesn't even block for his running backs. How does that fit the McVay offense and/or locker room?

The draftee is younger, cheaper, and likely not as mercurial and/or diva-ish than Pickens has been and is. I'd rather take the lottery ticket on the draftee.
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I agree, but how likely are the Rams to be in a position to draft a good receiver with a high draft pick next year or the year after that? I can see why the Rams think the way DzRams does. I hate it, but I do see how they can justify it, especially based on their action today.
 
Ranma said:
Agreed, but that makes the Simpson selection all the more frustrating. In a draft class, that deep with WR and OT talent, the Rams readily passed on that opportunity. Theoretically, it's a bold move that could be argued to be forward thinking and capitalizing on an opportunity by taking a QB prospect you're in love with ahead of actually needing him while allowing time to groom him. I admit that. However, I disagree with that and point to the front office's track record.

McVay took the Rams job because he thought he could win with Goff, but that obviously didn't prove true. As much as I like Goff as a person, his consistent late-game bad decisions were frustrating. Simpson, on the other hand, supposedly has higher football IQ but I believe not as much natural physical talent, though I don't believe there's too much separation in that regard. Maybe it will work with Simpson, but it didn't work with Mannion or Bennett. Granted the latter two were picked later, but it shows that outside of Stafford, whom the organization traded for after he established himself as an NFL stalwart, both Snead and McVay haven't hit with their QB selections in Los Angeles, but I digress.

This is why I'm so frustrated that the Rams missed on an opportunity to address a premium position of need with a high draft pick, which is rare for this team nowadays. Sure we missed on the top-shelf talents of Tate and Tyson and I wasn't exactly thrilled with Lemon, to be honest, even though he looks like a typical Rams receiver. The team could have drafted my personal favorite prospect in Monroe Freeling to be part of the offensive line rotation as a backup even while he was being developed or traded down to go after Omar Cooper, Jr. This class may not have an elite talent at WR like a Jeremiah Smith in 2027, Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, or even Tetairoa McMillan but it was certainly deep.

Maybe because of that depth, the Rams figured they could snag someone similar to Lemon later and even still now, but I also get the feeling that they are or have been targeting the likes of A.J. Brown and/or George Pickens, both of whom will likely be dumped by their respective teams. I'm not really in favor of going after either one even if I prefer the former over the latter, but I'm certainly opposed to giving up a first-round pick for either of them. I'm not even inclined to give up a second-rounder. I suspect the Rams do subscribe to your thinking in that regard.


I agree, but how likely are the Rams to be in a position to draft a good receiver with a high draft pick next year or the year after that? I can see why the Rams think the way DzRams does. I hate it, but I do see how they can justify it, especially based on their action today.
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There are still plenty of WRs on the board. And I'm not sure why you mentioned Sean Mannion. We drafted him during the Jeff Fisher era.
 
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