Rams Failed in 2026 Draft Approach

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Pupped said:
Again., they obviously had no 3rd WR option. We have 3 guys who are pointless on the WR depth chart.

That’s the biggest and most obvious issue.. along with OT and special teams.
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This goes back to the disregard of the big picture mindset of the organization.

What seems obvious or pointless to you isn't obvious or pointless to the organization. They like Mumpfield. They like the versatility Whittington provides. And prior to his injury, Ferguson appeared set to be the #3 target. And they haven't made a significant addition (besides Tutu) since. Until they do, how can anyone say otherwise?
 
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DzRams said:
That's literally the definition of opinion. Sorry...

It's laughable that you presume you know what priority they set for the WR position.
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No.. it’s observation.

That’s the thing.. people have a hard time understanding the difference.
 
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Memphis Ram said:
This goes back to the disregard of the big picture mindset of the organization.

What seems obvious or pointless to you isn't obvious or pointless to the organization. They like Mumpfield. They like the versatility Whittington provides. And prior to his injury, Ferguson appeared set to be the #3 target. And they haven't made a significant addition (besides Tutu) since. Until they do, how can anyone say otherwise?
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I can say otherwise based on production, performance and usage.

And… yes.. Ferg was.

As I’ve pointed out.. Adams is oft-injured and getting older… and Puka misses time as well.

You want to ignore the 3rd WR issue.. I get it.
 
DzRams said:
No, it doesn't mean that. It means that we should temper expectations and pronouncements of what we would currently be getting if they had drafted a WR.
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Its not about expectations for me so not sure why that is being brought up. No one knows what will truly go down until some time has passed. Its about trying to fill a stable that could use an infusion of speed and taking a stab at it, then trying to develop it. Does it guarantee success? well no because success is never guaranteed. However, how will we eventually attempt to fill that position of WR2 that Adams will most likely vacate? What cost more to replace, WR or TE? I believe the pick used on Klare could have been better used. I never was a fan of that pick nor will I act like I am. Personally think they missed there but thats my opinion and time will tell. As always, hope I'm wrong but I stand by my belief.
 
Pupped said:
I can say otherwise based on production, performance and usage.

And… yes.. Ferg was.

As I’ve pointed out.. Adams is oft-injured and getting older… and Puka misses time as well.

You want to ignore the 3rd WR issue.. I get it.
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No. You don't get it.

The importance of the 3rd WR in this offense has been reduced tremendously via moving from so much reliance on 11 personnel to a more TE focused approach. That is why the team has put up a buttload of points the past couple of season with either Adams or Puka out of the lineup. And probably why the team hasn't made the move you want or wanted at the position.
 
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Memphis Ram said:
No. You don't get it.

The importance of the 3rd WR in this offense has been reduced tremendously via moving from so much reliance on 11 personnel to a more TE focused approach. That is why the team has put up a buttload of points the past couple of season with either Adams or Puka out of the lineup. And probably why the team hasn't made the move you want or wanted at the position.
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The fact that you think the WR 3 thing is completely mitigated shows how detached from reality you are.

Puka & Davante have 629 snaps between them.
There are 504 between the others.

So… I reject that argument completely based on evidence.
 
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Memphis Ram said:
No. You don't get it.

The importance of the 3rd WR in this offense has been reduced tremendously via moving from so much reliance on 11 personnel to a more TE focused approach. That is why the team has put up a buttload of points the past couple of season with either Adams or Puka out of the lineup. And probably why the team hasn't made the move you want or wanted at the position.
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13 personnel definitely works but if the Rams get too behind, they will have to switch out or at least use 11. I personally wanted them to have enough good players to run both so the offense could adjust better based on game script. Should be interesting to see how the offense continues to produce and what they do to do so.
 
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Memphis Ram said:
That's the evidence? Really?

I won't even go into the extra snaps provided to others via injury but have you noticed the WR targets on offense while looking at the TE targets and RB targets?

WR wise, the offense goes through Puka. If he's not available, the offense goes through Adams. Next in line appears to be Mumpfield.

But TEs (and backs) are a key to the passing game of this offense. Now compare that to win they were heavy 11 personnel. Or are we not watching the same games?
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lol
 
Pupped said:
The fact that you think the WR 3 thing is completely mitigated shows how detached from reality you are.

Puka & Davante have 629 snaps between them.
There are 504 between the others.

So… I reject that argument completely based on evidence.
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I don't believe that I ever said the WR 3 thing was completely mitigated. That's more straw.

Anyway that's the evidence? Really?

I won't even go into the extra snaps provided to others via injury but while @PA Ram has already pointed this out, have you noticed the WR targets on offense while looking at the TE (and RB) targets?

WR wise, the offense goes through Puka. If he's not available, the offense goes through Adams (who at times even becomes an afterthought himself when Puka is playing). Next in line appears to be Mumpfield.

But TEs (and backs) are a major key to the passing game of this offense. Now compare that to when they were heavy 11 personnel. Or are we not watching the same games?
 
Memphis Ram said:
I don't believe that I ever said the WR 3 thing was completely mitigated. That's more straw.

Anyway that's the evidence? Really?

I won't even go into the extra snaps provided to others via injury but while @PA Ram has already pointed this out, have you noticed the WR targets on offense while looking at the TE (and RB) targets?

WR wise, the offense goes through Puka. If he's not available, the offense goes through Adams (who at times even becomes an after himself when Puka is playing). Next in line appears to be Mumpfield.

But TEs (and backs) are a major key to the passing game of this offense. Now compare that to when they were heavy 11 personnel. Or are we not watching the same games?
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I’ve discussed targets and the fact that you’re ignoring the talent on the receiving end makes a difference.

You are suggesting that a better talent at WR 3 would not get more targets and I think that’s just silly.

In addition to the possibility of a better talent allowing Puka & Davante to have lower usage.
 
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13 personnel definitely works but if the Rams get too behind, they will have to switch out or at least use 11. I personally wanted them to have enough good players to run both so the offense could adjust better based on game script. Should be interesting to see how the offense continues to produce and what they do to do so.
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Actions speak louder than words and to date, the organization appears to have a higher opinion on the WR talent.
 
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Memphis Ram said:
Actions speak louder than words and to date, the organization appears to have a higher opinion on the WR talent.
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Given that graphic on Mumpfield's ability to create separation, maybe he's better than we think. I guess we'll find out.
 
Curious to see what the percentages are for 1st and 2nd round talent at WR. 27 WRs drafted in round 1 and 2 the 3 years previous to 2026 (8 more this year). Too early to tell on this years group but 3 or 4 look promising. Of those other 27 we have JSN, Flowers, Addison, Nabers, Odunze, McConkey, McMillan, Egbuka, Golden (who leads the league in drops this year, 20) and Burden. That's 10 of 27 over 3 years or a thin hair more than 1 of 3 but there are some studs in that group (7? 8? 9?). Who else ya got to improve that percentage and by how much?
 
Pupped said:
I’ve discussed targets and the fact that you’re ignoring the talent on the receiving end makes a difference.

You are suggesting that a better talent at WR 3 would not get more targets and I think that’s just silly.

In addition to the possibility of a better talent allowing Puka & Davante to have lower usage.
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Talent? As previously stated, Davante Adams is one of the more talented WRs in the NFL and oftentimes he even becomes an afterthought when Puka is in the lineup.

And take me out of the equation. To date, McVay and the Rams seem to believe that Mumpfield is talented. You may not, but they do.
 
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Curious to see what the percentages are for 1st and 2nd round talent at WR. 27 WRs drafted in round 1 and 2 the 3 years previous to 2026 (8 more this year). Too early to tell on this years group but 3 or 4 look promising. Of those other 27 we have JSN, Flowers, Addison, Nabers, Odunze, McConkey, McMillan, Egbuka, Golden (who leads the league in drops this year, 20) and Burden. That's 10 of 27 over 3 years or a thin hair more than 1 of 3 but there are some studs in that group (7? 8? 9?). Who else ya got to improve that percentage and by how much?
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As I’ve said… and acknowledged… there’s no guarantee of success.. just like with Simpson.

I’m saying there were obvious needs that should’ve been addressed.

Maybe it’s a language thing.. maybe I should say “they should’ve tried harder to address in the draft”
 
jrry32 said:
Given that graphic on Mumpfield's ability to create separation, maybe he's better than we think. I guess we'll find out.
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Who knows? If Stafford and he could more consistently get on the same page this might not even be a conversation.
 
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