Rams Failed in 2026 Draft Approach

[RamUK]

You mean, like bringing back Tutu Atwell? Or bringing in Alex Bachman? Because by any measure, those are desperate.

You really do struggle to separate your opinions and beliefs from facts.

What you probably meant to say was, because by my measure, those are desperate.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Why is the ultimate go to tell me who you would have drafted? Guess saying just draft a certain position or try a different route just triggers that lol

Because teams draft players and not positions.

And when one tells another that they are wrong, the assumption is that party knows the right answer and they simply want to know.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Because teams draft players and not positions.

And when one tells another that they are wrong, the assumption is that party knows the right answer and they simply want to know.

Most those questions are only appropriately answered in generalities because even if they have a player in mind, it may not even line up with how the draft went or imclude trade ups or downs that may or may not work. That's why you'll get positions targeted in those conversations more often than not. Also you're first statement makes no sense. Teams do draft positions and players if they align. They just did so with Simpson. Its like saying they don't draft football players but not players lol.....sorry I just like poking fun at sayings. Not meant to be malicious or anything like that.

 

[Rmfnlt]

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The desire for attention is a powerful character flaw

 

[Memphis Ram]

Most those questions are only appropriately answered in generalities because even if they have a player in mind, it may not even line up with how the draft went or imclude trade ups or downs that may or may not work. That's why you'll get positions targeted in those conversations more often than not. Also you're first statement makes no sense. Teams do draft positions and players if they align. They just did so with Simpson. Its like saying they don't draft football players but not players lol.....sorry I just like poking fun at sayings. Not meant to be malicious or anything like that.

But to say that a player in mind may not even line up with how the draft went or include imaginary trade ups or trade downs that one doesn't even know where possible, why be so quick to point out that something was done wrong?

Teams drafting players and not positions?
Here I'm basically saying that teams don't go into drafts with a set position template for each round. They take the best player on their board within reason.

For example: if Ty Simpson went back to school, the Rams weren't about take their next highest rated QB on their draft board at #13 just to fill a QB position on a template.

 

[dieterbrock]

Sorry.. but you already pointed out that my argument is right.

9ers invested in their QB for the future…

Who’s their QB? How’d they acquire him?

Take care now… (pats head)

Still avoiding the question
Trolls gonna just troll

 

[Rmfnlt]

No it was about "doing better" in the draft. WR, LB, DL....whatever.....put the positions on a wall and throw darts at them. When your team was predicted to roll the opposition and they find themselves at 3-4, it's embarrassing for some fans. I understand it. Maybe you talked a lot of shit to your niner fan friends or Seattle fan friends. Now you're pissed. Tired of taking their shit????? So you go about second guessing every fucking move the team makes......after 7 weeks!!! That's so easy. It's lazy giving up the season after 7 weeks. I'm over your ridiculous junior GM obsessive hyper critique. We'll have to wait and see how it all works out. Your money is on crash and burn due to the WR situation (my hyper-focus????? LMFAO!!!) and maybe something else you'll come up with.....wait you already have. Because we traded those first round picks for Garrett and McDuffie, we don't have any to trade for a DT!!! Oh my, the horror. The horror.

I'll say it again at the risk of repeating myself:
Making any judgements on the success (or failure) of a draft before it has aged at least three years is a fool's errand.

18 pages... for what? Someone's OPINION that cannot be validated for years. Talk about chasing ghosts.

This isn't about the original post anymore. This is a desperate attempt to get attention.

My advice? Call mom or dad (God willing, still alive) - they'll give you the attention you seek.

 

[PARAM]

So what player would have been worth drafting instead of Ty Simpson that would have been a difference maker up to this point in the season? That was your premise unless I misunderstood your post.

He doesn't have a clue which players would have been better choices. That's not the premise of his thread. It's "the Rams could done better". Sure they could have. But that can be said about any team, any draft, any performance. And without offering alternative choices, it almost prevents his theory from being laughed out of the forum.

See >>>>>>

The Brewers could have done better.
The Knicks could have done better.
The Seahawks could have done better
But does it really matter and amount to a formidable theory?
No. It's assinine and any Ram fans knows it.

 

[dieterbrock]

I'll say it again at the risk of repeating myself:
Making any judgements on the success (or failure) of a draft before it has aged at least three years is a fool's errand.

18 pages... for what? Someone's OPINION that cannot be validated for years. Talk about chasing ghosts.

This isn't about the original post anymore. This is a desperate attempt to get attention.

My advice? Call mom or dad (God willing, still alive) - they'll give you the attention you seek.

Not to mention, the post isnt a debate, its an outright insult to the Team
This is why vent threads are closed after 24 hours
Why this has been allowed to go one the way it has is imply mind boggling to me

 

[El Chapo Jr]

But to say that a player in mind may not even line up with how the draft went or include imaginary trade ups or trade downs that one doesn't even know where possible, why be so quick to point out that something was done wrong?

Teams drafting players and not positions?
Here I'm basically saying that teams don't go into drafts with a set position template for each round. They take the best player on their board within reason.

For example: if Ty Simpson went back to school, the Rams weren't about take their next highest rated QB on their draft board at #13 just to fill a QB position on a template.

I mean obviously they have players ranked by players but to say within reason includes a position. If they have a player in a position of need slightly ranked slightly below another player that isn't in a position of need, its extremely possible for the positional player to be drafted first. So see, that conversation can go both ways. I do however agree that the grade of the player themselves carries more weight with the position playing a part dependent upon how far grades are apart.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Not to mention, the post isnt a debate, its an outright insult to the Team
This is why vent threads are closed after 24 hours
Why this has been allowed to go one the way it has is imply mind boggling to me

C'mon man, it ain't that serious....its not an insult to a team to question moves, its essentially what every single fan base does, fair or unfair. It's just more prominent on here because well we haven't got shit to do but discuss so many hypothetical things on a fam forum. I don't mind the discussion but could do without the personal attack portions of them although they sometimes make me chuckle.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

He doesn't have a clue which players would have been better choices. That's not the premise of his thread. It's "the Rams could done better". Sure they could have. But that can be said about any team, any draft, any performance. And without offering alternative choices, it almost prevents his theory from being laughed out of the forum.

See >>>>>>

The Brewers could have done better.
The Knicks could have done better.
The Seahawks could have done better
But does it really matter and amount to a formidable theory?
No. It's assinine and any Ram fans knows it.

Yawn......do better

 

[Memphis Ram]

I mean obviously they have players ranked by players but to say within reason includes a position. If they have a player in a position of need slightly ranked slightly below another player that isn't in a position of need, its extremely possible for the positional player to be drafted first. So see, that conversation can go both ways. I do however agree that the grade of the player themselves carries more weight with the position playing a part dependent upon how far grades are apart.

But the question was as to why a party claiming a wrong is asked to divulge whom the team should have drafted? In other words, what would have been right?

And to just give a position isn't an answer. And inquiring minds want to know not only for their edification but to also get a feel for if said party claiming a wrong has a clue of what they are talking about. Why point out a wrong and then hide the right answer for yourself?

 

[PARAM]

Yawn......do better

Been around and round with you a few times. You bring nothing to the table so it's no surprise you coat tail on others 'theories'. Like a parrot. "Yeah, yeah, like that!!"

 

[El Chapo Jr]

But the question was as to why a party claiming a wrong is asked to divulge whom the team should have drafted? In other words, what would have been right?

And to just give a position isn't an answer. And inquiring minds want to know not only for their edification but to also get a feel for if said party claiming a wrong has a clue of what they are talking about. Why point out a wrong and then hide the right answer for yourself?

You're never going to get a right answer as that is the part that is highly debatable due to the fact that a draft can not be truly determined until years later. What you get is an opinion from both sides with a TBD timeline. How do we know other teams strategy won't change of certain players go off the board because the Rams changed their strategy, what teams will actually trade with the Rams, etc. Too many variables to expect a specific answer. Easier for the defenders of the picks to do so because well those picks actually happened vs what should have been targeted in the eyes of people skeptical of the draft strategy.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Been around and round with you a few times. You bring nothing to the table so it's no surprise you coat tail on others 'theories'. Like a parrot. "Yeah, yeah, like that!!"

You're too much, I was mocking/making fun of your post saying do better just to playfully give you crap and you got your panties in a bunch. Pupped got you worked up lol.

 

[Memphis Ram]

You're never going to get a right answer as that is the part that is highly debatable due to the fact that a draft can not be truly determined until years later. What you get is an opinion from both sides with a TBD timeline. How do we know other teams strategy won't change of certain players go off the board because the Rams changed their strategy, what teams will actually trade with the Rams, etc. Too many variables to expect a specific answer. Easier for the defenders of the picks to do so because well those picks actually happened vs what should have been targeted in the eyes of people skeptical of the draft strategy.

So in that case then it's foolish to point out that the team did something wrong this early. Right?

 

[PARAM]

So, in the end the thread is "the Rams could have done better". 18 pages of ducking and dodging with no alternative plan? No particular player instead of who we got? Sounds like a guy betting the field instead of a particular team or player. Real insightful. And a real easy, weak assed argument.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

So in that case then it's foolish to point out that the team did something wrong this early. Right?

No, that's where we disagree. It isn't foolish at all. Its literally what all fans do. Some trust the organization completely, some sit on the fence, and some need to see the proof after being critical before saying they are wrong (some may actually never admit it too). I look at it as the natural part of being a fan quite honestly.

 

[Pupped]

The Franchise Quarterback "stab" in the Draft, in my opinion, completely changes all arguments of this conversation.

If our current Quarterback was 35ish instead of 38ish then I'd be totally with you.

The fact that our 38 year old, banged-up at times, Quarterback is POTENTIALLY "year-to-year" puts the team at HEIGHTENED AWARENESS in scouring and searching for that next Franchise guy, pronto.

So when the opportunity arises to get that wholly important piece which could dictate 10 YEARS of the Franchise's being, if its someone that Snead/McVay like and believe in, you've got to take him.

Hate to break this down into middle-school terms, but if Simpson turns out to be "it," (a Top 10 Quarterback OR wins a Super Bowl with us as a middle-of-the-pack guy) it was a great pick.

If Simpson turns out to be NOT "it" ( middle-of-the-pack, doesn't lead us to high Playoffs OR an outright bust) then it was the wrong and horrendous pick.

Snead and McVay are betting on Simpson. We'll see how that plays. But the fact that "next Franchise Quarterback" is in the mix in this discussion more or less devalues your argument because of the obvious major importance of the position itself. Stafford's age plays a huge role in this.

And I disagree on two basis..

I don't believe the roster was good enough and that at least one obvious failure point, WR, is already jeopardizing the season. I also believe there are ST issues that could've been helped as well.

As I've said.. there are other ways to get a QB, as shown clearly by the two current NFC rivals... and, there's simply no guarantee that Simpson is a SB quality QB. Conversely.. I understand that with better picks this year, a SB was not guaranteed either. I simply think they ignored the need to improve in certain areas.