Rams draft TE Pick 36?

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Corbin

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With the our team being full of many holes throughout the roster the team can do many many things with our first pick this year.
I know I'm going out on a limb here so bare with me..


Let's think about what our identity as a team with our leader? We have a dynamic offensive head coach who runs an offense that goes through the run game and play action.
The run game more specifically follows two concepts of Duo and Inside Zone.
Example of Inside Zone:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbSYiB_MgGs&t=4s


As you can see our O-Line down blocks down towards the play side


Example of Duo:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C8DkHn9qMQ


The Duo concept is used to create double teams at the line of scrimmage, generally with the center and backside guard and the playside tackle and guard.


This was true in 2021 as it has been McVay's entire career with us.
McVay absolutely loves 12 personnel ( 1 RB and 2 TE's) and when he has used it in the past with two decent TE's we used to by far the most than any other team. With Higbee on the roster who is a pretty decent blocker how could we tip the running game towards our favor even more?

By drafting a 6th offensive linemen to overpower the defense when we run 12 personnel!

Enter Darnell Washington TE Georgia Bulldogs.

Darnell Washington's specialty is devastating blocking and catching passes from play action.
6'7 270lbs
A bit of the good and bad with Washington:
Per PFF:
Washington is a unique 6-foot-7, 270-pound tight end. His height and weight don't do justice to just how massive he is. If your offense wants an offensive tackle who can also run routes and make guys miss after the catch, Washington is your man.
It's rare to see a tight end who has just 45 receptions in college be so highly regarded, but that is Darnell Washington's skillset. At 6-foot-7 and 270 pounds, he is a huge athlete who boasted a top-10 run-blocking grade at the position this past season. He can be an intriguing option in the passing game as well, as he averaged 17.2 yards per catch over the course of his college career. On those 45 receptions at Georgia, he forced 14 missed tackles and averaged 7.5 yards after the catch per reception.

Where he wins: Frame

Washington’s size changes the calculus for defenses. He can be a sixth offensive lineman in the run game while also being a post-up weapon against smaller linebackers in the passing game.

What’s his role: Inline tight end

If you’re not one of the run-heavier teams in the NFL, I’d suggest you look elsewhere. Washington’s real mismatch ability comes in the ground game and when running routes off play action. Over half his yards came off play action last year.

What can he Improve: Waist-bending

Washington is never going to look like Travis Kelce as a receiver so putting anything to do with that is insane. He can easily grow into being an actual offensive tackle, though, if he so chooses. To be effective as a blocker regardless, Washington will have to cut out the waist-bending and sink from his lower half.

Per NFL.com:

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Washington was rated one of the top 25 recruits in the country after his career at Desert Pines High School in Las Vegas. He started seven of 10 games played in 2020 for the Bulldogs (7-166-23.7) as a true freshman. Washington missed the first four games of the 2021 campaign with an injury from preseason camp but returned to start six of 11 contests (10-154-15.4, one TD) for the national champions. He was a second-team All-SEC selection in 2022 (28-454-16.2 two TDs), starting 14 of 15 games played as Georgia repeated as champs. -- by Chad Reuter

Overview
In-line tight end with rare size and power at the point of attack to help soften defensive edges up front. Despite sloppy overall technique, Washington can be effective at moving defenders when he’s centered on his block. He must improve his footwork and hand usage, as NFL defenders will slip away from his clutches more easily if he’s unsound. He plods into his routes but catches with above-average focus and can be a handful to bring down. Washington could become a dominant run blocker with better technique, which makes me wonder if a team might give him a look at offensive tackle at some point in his career.
Strengths
  • Massive frame and shredded physique.
  • Mismatches linebackers at the point of attack.
  • Pure power to torque and displace defender.
  • Creates considerable advantage near goal line.
  • Size requires careful coverage consideration.
  • Able to adjust to off-target throws and catch in congestion.
Weaknesses
  • Footwork into block fits needs work.
  • Gets into blocks with wide hands.
  • Waist-bender and head-ducker at point of attack.
  • Angles to second level lack accuracy.
  • Stiff-kneed, limiting speed to attack seam.
  • Unable to sink and break off routes underneath.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqpdtnCnVRI



View: https://youtu.be/kkwvDSvnTXA





I can't stop thinking about it and with our HC being an ex-TE's coach it seems like a perfect fit. I haven't heard anybody else suggest selecting him for the Rams.

What do you think? Am i crazy?
 

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Look at his strengths listed there. Big, strong, physical mismatch. Is he actually good at playing TE, either blocking or catching? Look at his weaknesses. The weaknesses say that he isn't. His blocking isn't good from a technique standpoint and his route running isn't good.

I'm not trying to make a prediction of the future here, but his profile reads like the Greg Robinson of TEs.
 

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The boy can block. I'll give him that.
 

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The TE class is to deep to spend a 2nd round pick when there will be better value in the 4th and 5th rounds.
 

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You lost me when you said that Coach Mac was in love with 12 formation. It's the 11 formation that we are in about 90% of the time. In fact I believe we lead the NFL in highest percentage of plays run from the 11 formation.

BTW I would LOVE it if Sean would use the 12 a lot more. I spent most of last season yelling at the TV to put another TE in their to help the blocking and stop Matty Staff from getting killed.
Alas McVay was too stubborn and stuck with the 11 and Matt got injured....and......you know the rest.

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You lost me when you said that Coach Mac was in love with 12 formation. It's the 11 formation that we are in about 90% of the time. In fact I believe we lead the NFL in highest percentage of plays run from the 11 formation.

BTW I would LOVE it if Sean would use the 12 a lot more. I spent most of last season yelling at the TV to put another TE in their to help the blocking and stop Matty Staff from getting killed.
Alas McVay was too stubborn and stuck with the 11 and Matt got injured....and......you know the rest.

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Lost you how? Maybe I am crazy about this? Lol Yes in previous years like last year 11 has been used alot because he had shit TE’s but in past years 12 was used a ton, particularly when we had Everett on the team and him in Washington.

I agree 100% on helping out, but last year I don’t think we had any worth a shut besides Higbee due to injuries.
 
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Look at his strengths listed there. Big, strong, physical mismatch. Is he actually good at playing TE, either blocking or catching? Look at his weaknesses. The weaknesses say that he isn't. His blocking isn't good from a technique standpoint and his route running isn't good.

I'm not trying to make a prediction of the future here, but his profile reads like the Greg Robinson of TEs.
The thing is every prospect has weaknesses and areas to work on, even the ones in the top 5.

Sure he has things he can clean up, but his positives outside of his physicality mismatches for blocking

Plus you are forgetting we have Higbee too, i just think that dual threat 12 set would really dominate and help offset some of our other deficiencies.


28 catches for 454 and 2 TD’s are his stats catching the ball in Georgia's run heavy offense. Shit that is about like Tutu’s stats from the TE! lol
 

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He could be a huuuuge weapon - if he has it in him to be a good pass catcher and route runner.
But he also has that potential Georgia bust draft pick stench on him imo.
Not sure which he ends up.
 

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Corbin, have you turned over a new leaf? You typically tell us why something will not happen or can’t work and here you are putting your head on the chopping block for a blocking TE at 36 :)

Keep it up! Nice analysis but sorry, no chance this happens :LOL:
 

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I've seen him mocked in the first round routinely, I wouldn't expect him to be there at 36.
 

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He scares me because I can see the monster he could be but also see his inability as a pass catcher at NFL level. I don't know much about him outside of football... is he dedicated and a hard worker who will put in the time to work on his weaknesses? If so I'd be ok with him. If not I see someone who won't be much more than a blocking TE with occasional spurts of productivity.

Now having said that, we desperately need a blocking TE. Higbee is adequate but not great but has a lot of injury history chipping away at his body and we have no one else. Long's history suggests to not expect much in the blocking department and Hopkins has been useless outside of one outlandish Super Bowl appearance. Just not sure our most premium pick is worth filling that need.
 

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The thing is every prospect has weaknesses and areas to work on, even the ones in the top 5.

Sure he has things he can clean up, but his positives outside of his physicality mismatches for blocking

Plus you are forgetting we have Higbee too, i just think that dual threat 12 set would really dominate and help offset some of our other deficiencies.


28 catches for 454 and 2 TD’s are his stats catching the ball in Georgia's run heavy offense. Shit that is about like Tutu’s stats from the TE! lol
Forget about Higbee? I don't even know who that is. Never heard of her.

But in all seriousness, I know that every prospect has weaknesses. My point is this guy's weaknesses are all how he plays and none of his strengths are how he plays. I prefer a guy that does something good that teammates to the position. That's not Washington. His strengths are just, "Him big. Him strong. Him make good football player." They didn't say one good thing about how he plays, only that he's large and strong. How many years of tape does he have and the only good thing they can say is he's big and strong? But they sure could see that his technique in every area of his position is bad.

I'm not saying he gong to be a bad player or he can't learn ask the technique he needs once he gets to the pros. I'm just saying the profile scares me because it sounds like Robinson. Huge, strong, great run blocker, no technique at all, what could go wrong? Do you think his bad feet, poor hands positioning, waist bending, and head ducking are going to hold up against Bosa? Big and strong won't cover it. He's gong to need to get good too which, apparently, he's chosen not to in the last 8+ years of playing football.
 

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didn't the rams already go through this with everett?

pick a bonafide football player, someone who can step onto the field in week 1. no projects.

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no projects.

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I definitely agree with this thinking for 2023. I don't want workout warriors or players with amazing measurables but almost no football acumen or experience. I want players who can play day 1 for most of the picks and at least look like they belong on a professional football field. When we get to 7th round or UDFAs sure if they want to throw a dart at something knock themselves out but we need football players this year. No Jacob Harris picks this year please.
 

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I do like Washington and what he can add to our team, I'm just not willing to risk our most premium pick on him. I know most of us want to add a TE in this draft, but, the Rams could have loved Long in that draft and he hasn't had a chance to play. They could be fairly content with the current TE group for this upcoming season. I just couldn't pass on the more pressing need of edge and/or CB that high. I like several of the TE's available in the 3rd.

Great write up though, appreciate the time that took you!
 

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No TE at #36, Kincaid and Mayer will be long gone and they're will still be more than a few edge rushers available. As of right now we have TEs on our roster that can be reasonably counted on. As of now, we have zero NFL caliber pass rushers with 3 of 4 LB positions needing reinforcements. We have maybe 1 starting CB (Durant), and a couple of unproven safeties to go along with Fuller (until he gets hurt again). We also need NFL caliber guards(2) to add competition to the disabled list, I mean to possibly step in and play right away. After Kupp, our WR core ranks near the bottom of the league. A stud center and backup QB are also needed. See where I'm going with this, we have many more needs than any TE not named Mayer and Kincaid.
 

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I wonder how true the reports are on LaPorta's medical. What a bummer that is if true. But as much as I like Kincaid and Mayer it's not like their film is 10x better than that of LaPorta. I think while not being as big as them he's in their class in the pass game or so close that it's splitting hairs in ranking them.

But it does feel like Edge and Corner need to be prioritized. Pisses me off in some ways because I really want one of these TEs. But we do have 3x picks in rounds 2 and 3. So it is possible we get one of these guys.

Washington is one of the guys I prefer we steer clear of because I simply do not like guys who lack production. I don't care how good your measurables are, if you can't produce in college why would I think you'd produce in the NFL. But if he's the guy he is a bit of a lottery ticket in that his upside is enormous so maybe we hit on him.

Musgrave sort of rubs me the wrong way on his film. Just feels like he goes down at first contact. He's a catch & flop type, in a day and age where you want guys with RAC. Rams and this offense if you're not getting a guy who can threaten underneath then just pick a damn Edge or Corner and then go get one of the project types later. But if the Rams like him I'll get behind him. He is a nice big athlete just prefer Kraft to him by some margin and both are estimated in the same range, actually Musgrave I've seen ranked above Kraft mostly. Re: Musgrave when I watch his film he's not really all that much better than Whyle, who is a big/smooth athlete who will go off the board much later.

Also I've talked shite about Kuntz because he's another workout warrior without the big production but it's not like I wouldn't welcome him later in the draft. But I'd also welcome Strange, who is a smaller LaPorta type.

So honestly all I care about is come out of this draft with one of these TEs.
 

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I seriously want nothing to do with Musgrave. Talk about zero production and still getting super hype. Throw in injury concerns and he'd be off my board period. I'd absolutely take Washington (who actually has slightly more production then Musgrave and at least his lack of production can be explained), Kraft, LaPorta all well above Musgrave.