Rams rebuilt this front in one offseason when they lost AD. So let's not oversell Turner's importance.
He's a key player for us, certainly. But if they can't get him on a second contract at their price point they'll let him walk.
Rams (#232) 7th Round Tim Keenan III, DT, Alabama
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He's a key player for us, certainly. But if they can't get him on a second contract at their price point they'll let him walk.
Again, he's the main lynchpin for our defense (yes, even above Young and Verse; while they can get after the QB and do a hell of a lot on the field, Turner is the only interior rusher on the D-line who can collapse the pocket and get after the QB, while also being elite against the run), is a team captain and leader, and he's not going to cost nearly as much as Puka, for example.
I'd rather lose Young (who can be replaced by Stewart and potentially another edge), one of Dotson or Avila (which almost certainly will happen), and Desjuan Johnson (whom I would hate to let go, as I think he's going to be a steal for some other team) than lose Turner for a disagreement over a contract; he is that important for our defense, and I'm not attempting to oversell his importance because he really is that important.
No they didn’t. They hit on Turner and Young for ADs last year. The front was being built while AD was still here. If Turner didn’t hit, rams would have no interior push. Turner is absolutely necessary. He’s better than most and still flies under the radar. Losing him would be worse than losing Verse
They most certainly did. The year after AD retired the DL was of sufficient quality, which demonstrates the organization's ability to replace a Hall of Fame player. So by extension it is silly talk to wring our hands over Turner.
So you maintain that this was rebuilt in one off-season, when two of the four most important pieces were here when AD was here? Got it.
I maintain that in one offseason they recovered from the loss of the best DT in recent league memory. And I think that demonstrates that hand wringing over a starter level DT is silliness.
Snead talked about needing four to five players to replace AD. As mentioned, per the GM, they started before AD retired with Turner and BY. Verse and Fiske were just the finishing touches.
I'd say Turner and Verse are the key. I think they can survive losing Young and Fiske.
Yeah, Fiske never seems to be 100% unfortunately. If he could stay healthy I think he could be special, but even when he plays he seems to be playing while banged up.
I'm not sure I'd say special even when healthy. Maybe special as a pass rusher, but he's a liability against the run.
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Really looking for Verse to perfect a second pass rush move this season. His lack of variety was exposed last year.
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Better secondary play will add that half second for him to get him at least.
I think his problem is his core strength. Some dudes have that ability to anchor vs a double, Fiske struggles with it. I don't know if he can fix that with technique and more strength training, but having a strong rotation on the nose to eat up blockers helps Fiske and it's not a bad thing for Turner either.
It will make a difference no doubt, but he has got to tackle WAY BETTER.