Rams: (#13) 1st Round QB Ty Simpson

[Spider2YB]

Yes, that was my point. The Rams planned to draft Simpson. McVay and Snead wanted him at #13.

I know Snead wanted him there because he’s friends with the family, has been targeting him for months, and he gave some absurd quote tonight that he was worried Simpson would go even higher. LOL.

There’s no way in hell McVay wanted to use 13 on him. Zero shot.

 

[Merlin]

I could be wrong. But McVay's clenched jaw and basic "no comment" makes me think Stafford was unhappy with the news.

But to reiterate: I do NOT think it's a big deal, even if Stafford was pissed. Stafford is a pro, and at the end of the day he knows he's 38 and the NFL is a business.

Yes and they're adults, not petulant children, so of course they can argue over something like this and still come to an understanding. It really isn't difficult to imagine Stafford wanting a weapon or another piece that might help a run more directly. But it's unlikely that McVay would be doing backflips at the presser given all that, and he's got a lot of emotional intelligence when it comes to protecting his players to include his QB1.

 

[Spider2YB]

I think.. for my sanity.. I might just go through this thread and block anyone suggesting McVay isn’t fully behind the pick.

Insane.

Head coaches and GMs disagree on picks all the time. It’s nothing new.

But there’s no chance in hell this was McVays choice. Snead may have worn him down over time but it’s pretty clear Snead has wanted this guy since the fall.

 

[NorthernRam]

Simpson would not have been our pick if McVay wasn't on board. It's that simple.

End of the day, Simpson is a QB. If he pans out, he's easily worth the pick. If he doesn't, he wouldn't have been worth a second round pick.

As another poster rightly said, this is Stafford's team and for that reason McVay couldn't appear at a press conference overjoyed in selecting a QB in the first round.

That would have passed Stafford off, when Stafford likely would have preferred that the Rams draft another offensive weapon in the first round.

I feel that the Rams drafted a QB instead of a receiver because they were not overjoyed by the receivers available by the time their pick came up.

It is likely that they didn't think that these receivers presented enough of an upgrade over the UDFA receivers on the practice squad last season.

I was really impressed by what I saw in a couple of their undrafted receivers from last season.

After a full season on the practice squad, these guys may be ready.

The Rams may feel that these receivers have more upside than Mumpfield and Whittington, and that they can add later round receiver picks and UDFA's this year

I don't see a lot of dynamism in the current group of depth receivers on last year's 53 man roster.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I think.. for my sanity.. I might just go through this thread and block anyone suggesting McVay isn’t fully behind the pick.

Insane.

We all know Snead is a secret Walton heir and controls the entire organization. And McVay doesn't have control over his team.

His team.

Sheesh.

 

[Memphis Ram]

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[Ram_Rally]

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The guy in the first clip said the rams offense lacks juice. The #1 offense in the NFL last year lol invalidated his whole segment.

As for the second video, i LOVE Mike Renner. He's one of the best draft guys out there. If he likes Simpson, I like Simpson.

 

[Pupped]

I know Snead wanted him there because he’s friends with the family, has been targeting him for months, and he gave some absurd quote tonight that he was worried Simpson would go even higher. LOL.

There’s no way in hell McVay wanted to use 13 on him. Zero shot.

You’re a long-time poster… you know this team.

Do you really think Snead would draft a player that high that McVay wouldn’t be happy about?

I mean… come on. McVay IS the Rams.

 

[Pupped]

We all know Snead is a secret Walton heir and controls the entire organization. And McVay doesn't have control over his team.

His team.

Sheesh.

A little tired.. just confirming.. sarcasm? Right?

 

[Pupped]

Head coaches and GMs disagree on picks all the time. It’s nothing new.

But there’s no chance in hell this was McVays choice. Snead may have worn him down over time but it’s pretty clear Snead has wanted this guy since the fall.

I can agree that Snead may have been more enthusiastic.

I can also say, confidently… he would NEVER make that pick if McVay wasn’t 100% on board.

 

[AZRams]

The guy in the first clip said the rams offense lacks juice. The #1 offense in the NFL last year lol invalidated his whole segment.

As for the second video, i LOVE Mike Renner. He's one of the best draft guys out there. If he likes Simpson, I like Simpson.

The more I hear people who know football stuff talk about it, the more I like the pick.

A luxury pick, yes. But the Rams have excelled at finding contributors in mid-rounds since Day 1 of McVay and Snead's tenure together. I can give them the benefit of the doubt that they can find a scheme fit at WR in the 3rd rd or even later because I've seen them do it already.

More than once.

 

[Merlin]

I feel that the Rams drafted a QB instead of a receiver because they were not overjoyed by the receivers available by the time their pick came up.

It's possible they're tired of haggling with Stafford every offseason as well. This was reportedly dramatic last offseason, with McVay and Stafford clearing the room to get it done. And now they're reportedly close, however do the Rams want to do this again in the 2027 offseason? If not one way to circumvent it is to have an Option B.

There's a good chance this is Stafford's last year. Basically. I think this selection might even make that more true. But it's hard to blame the Rams for that, and I get why they addressed it the way they did even if I'm not the biggest fan of it.

 

[XXXIVwin]

I'm going off memory here but I honestly can never recall any coach let alone ours divulging a private conversation with a player.

Any coach ever sorry just can't recall that ever happening especially with McVay.

Just as a recent example-- McVay gave a lot of details about the personal conversation he had with Puka about his off-field incidents. About how Puka was remorseful and apologetic, and how McVay was going to put his arm around him and help him make more mature decisions, etc . etc.

IMO McVay only says "I'll keep that private and between me and the player" when things do NOT go well. As I recall McVay used the "I'll keep that between us" line when he was having troubles with Akers, and also after the Ernest Jones trade.

But when a personal conversation with a player goes well, McVay is happy to share details. If Stafford was enthusiastic about the Simpson pick, there would be no reason for McVay to decline to comment about it.

 

[Pupped]

As another poster rightly said, this is Stafford's team and for that reason McVay couldn't appear at a press conference overjoyed in selecting a QB in the first round.

That would have passed Stafford off, when Stafford likely would have preferred that the Rams draft another offensive weapon in the first round.

I feel that the Rams drafted a QB instead of a receiver because they were not overjoyed by the receivers available by the time their pick came up.

It is likely that they didn't think that these receivers presented enough of an upgrade over the UDFA receivers on the practice squad last season.

I was really impressed by what I saw in a couple of their undrafted receivers from last season.

After a full season on the practice squad, these guys may be ready.

The Rams may feel that these receivers have more upside than Mumpfield and Whittington, and that they can add later round receiver picks and UDFA's this year

I don't see a lot of dynamism in the current group of depth receivers on last year's 53 man roster.

Great post.

I think Smith made real strides as a WR last year and fills an important need.. and Mumpfield showed promise. There’s also much more draft ahead.

 

[Spider2YB]

You’re a long-time poster… you know this team.

Do you really think Snead would draft a player that high that McVay wouldn’t be happy about?

I mean… come on. McVay IS the Rams.

McVay almost retired 3 years ago, and all the scuttlebutt at the Super Bowl this year was that McVay is going to leave when Stafford does.

Snead has to think about a post-McVay future just as much as he does a post-Stafford one. And if Simpson is as good as Snead thinks he is, it will be much easier to attract a high quality replacement for McVay. But it doesn’t make the Rams better in the short term.

This was a classic GM move where they are thinking about their own job security 4-5 years down the road instead of giving their team the best possible chance to win this year.

 

[Ellard80]

WOW lol mvay looks pissed

 

[jrry32]

I know Snead wanted him there because he’s friends with the family, has been targeting him for months, and he gave some absurd quote tonight that he was worried Simpson would go even higher. LOL.

There’s no way in hell McVay wanted to use 13 on him. Zero shot.

If McVay didn't want him, he wouldn't have been the pick. It is that simple. McVay has a veto. And McVay isn't going to let Snead waste a top 15 pick because Snead knows the kid's father.

 

[Memphis Ram]

McVay almost retired 3 years ago, and all the scuttlebutt at the Super Bowl this year was that McVay is going to leave when Stafford does.

Snead has to think about a post-McVay future just as much as he does a post-Stafford one. And if Simpson is as good as Snead thinks he is, it will be much easier to attract a high quality replacement for McVay. But it doesn’t make the Rams better in the short term.

This was a classic GM move where they are thinking about their own job security 4-5 years down the road instead of giving their team the best possible chance to win this year.

Let's say you are correct.

Who do you think the Rams should have selected instead?

 

[Pupped]

Just as a recent example-- McVay gave a lot of details about the personal conversation he had with Puka about his off-field incidents. About how Puka was remorseful and apologetic, and how McVay was going to put his arm around him and help him make more mature decisions, etc . etc.

IMO McVay only says "I'll keep that private and between me and the player" when things do NOT go well. As I recall McVay used the "I'll keep that between us" line when he was having troubles with Akers, and also after the Ernest Jones trade.

But when a personal conversation with a player goes well, McVay is happy to share details. If Stafford was enthusiastic about the Simpson pick, there would be no reason for McVay to decline to comment about it.

Nah… the Puka thing required some public commentary.. this absolutely did not.

I’m not saying Stafford is thrilled.. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s not nearly that clear cut.

 

[Spider2YB]

If McVay didn't want him, he wouldn't have been the pick. It is that simple. McVay has a veto. And McVay isn't going to let Snead waste a top 15 pick because Snead knows the kid's father.

Can you point to me where it says McVay has veto power? This isn’t a thing. The NFL has a rich history of coaches and GMs disagreeing on picks. Hell, sometimes an owner will swoop down and override both.

Do I think Snead consulted McVay and values his opinion. Of course. But short of McVay throwing a temper tantrum, this was always going to be the pick because that’s what Snead wanted.