Rams: (#13) 1st Round QB Ty Simpson

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So only draft a QB once you suck and have no chance at a SB? Or is it that we should spend 3 #1 picks (most likely scenario to move up for a QB potentially better than Simpson) on a QB in '27? I guess I don't get the when and where you stand on getting our next QB. Let's have some details - not just that you think Simpson is the wrong choice.
It's pretty amazing how hard it is to get this point across. My thought, was that the focus should have been do everything humanly possible to get that Superbowl, not hard to understand. Superbowls are notoriously hard to win so why not do everything to win it all when we were literally a play away from winning the Superbowl? I didn't go into specifics with players earlier but I've been on record saying use it on an additional pass rusher, WR, or even OL, basically anyone that could have had an impact on sometime during the year. Win now, worry about the future QB when we get there. Can't present a future plan at all when I can't predict what all the options will be for QB. Will there be a disgruntled QB out there that wants a trade, will a QB fall a bit because you have other skilled positions that are going to be deemed really strong in the next draft class? No idea my friend. Stafford is our best chance to get a Superbowl now. Simpson is an unknown at moment and doesn't really help us win a Superbowl this year. He's currently the planned heir down the road.
 
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It's pretty amazing how hard it is to get this point across. My thought, was that the focus should have been do everything humanly possible to get that Superbowl, not hard to understand. Superbowls are notoriously hard to win so why not do everything to win it all when we were literally a play away from winning the Superbowl? I didn't go into specifics with players earlier but I've been on record saying use it on an additional pass rusher, WR, or even OL, basically anyone that could have had an impact on sometime during the year. Win now, worry about the future QB when we get there. Can't present a future plan at all when I can't predict what all the options will be for QB. Will there be a disgruntled QB out there that wants a trade, will a QB fall a bit because you have other skilled positions that are going to be deemed really strong in the next draft class? No idea my friend. Stafford is our best chance to get a Superbowl now. Simpson is an unknown at moment and doesn't really help us win a Superbowl this year. He's currently the planned heir down the road.
With the bolded not only do the Rams tell you what they think needed to be done this offseason to do that but McVay has flat out told you what the thinks about it. It's up to us to listen to them.
 
So let me get this straight. All you need to do is opine that Simpson was the wrong pick and that makes you the smart one. I would think that if you are so confident that the pick was a mistake, you would have an opinion as to specifically how it should have been handled. And that would include who that player is and where they would be taken. Word is that the Rams felt that Love was the only true difference maker in the draft. This may or may not be true but that leaves us wondering. You say we should have used the draft to get someone that would have helped us get to the SB THIS YEAR - not someone that would sit behind our QB. So who is that impact player? You want to wait and see who does what in the coming season? Well that's kind of chicken shit. But even if you want to use that as some sort of litmus test, does it include whether that player would actually see the field and have the same impact with THIS team? Or is it just that they got with a team that needed them? Are we going to use Miami and their WR room? Maybe KC and their CB group? Come on man. If @Coliseum Ram is being dumb here, give us your wisdom.

Bottom line is that if you are going to sit here and argue that Simpson was the wrong pick, one would think you have an opinion as to who was the RIGHT pick or right draft process.
I'm not even arguing he's the wrong pick so everything you just said means jack shit. Man y'all really get butt hurt with any post talking about the guy in any capacity. When I was talking to Coliseum Ram its essentially what the argument is for people (not talking about myself, yes I can do that) that think Simpson was a good pick or not. I'm not even trying to argue about it because as I told him and I apparently have to tell you, he's a Ram. There isn't shit that can change that so talking about what's your plan at 13 is the dumbest shit ever. The Rams took a calculated risk for a QB now and it shocked a lot of folks. Shit McVay and Snead have been doing media rounds like crazy about the pick for them to say they were in lock step which is crazy to think they aren't. I simply said if the Rams fall short of a Superbowl they are going to get questioned by some fans and media over the Simpson pick if there's any rookie that balls out that could have been looked at to better help the Rams in their attempt to win a Superbowl. Its not fair to the kid because there's no way to guarantee any impactful rookie would have pushed the Rams over the hump but that's just reality that it'll be talked about. Go ahead and tell me I'm lying about this. Anyone that thinks I'm lying is full of shit. The fact that I'm talking about possibilities from an observational point of view just to discuss and it rubs people the wrong way is pretty dumbfounding. Why would I offer up a plan when I'm giving that kind of view?
 
With the bolded not only do the Rams tell you what they think needed to be done this offseason to do that but McVay has flat out told you what the thinks about it. It's up to us to listen to them.
I get what the Rams did, but I'm simply giving my opinion because I was asked to clarify what I thought should have happened so I gave it. What I think means doo doo because it doesn't change anything. The Rams drafted for the future heir to Stafford and not for a player to see the field in year one that may have had a better chance to impact the team more. This is how the draft was viewed and it will be what is discussed if we don't win it all is what I'm saying. Not fair to Simpson because he won't get to prove his worth right away because as McVay said, this is Matt Stafford's team.
 
I think part of where I'm coming down on this whole Simpson at 13 pick is that in the aggregate, taking a QB of his attributes at 13 in a draft makes me queasy. But absent a trade partner and the fact that I considered the draft so weak as it was, I really didn't love any of the guys there at 13 anyways. So in THIS draft, with THIS QB and the ALTERNATIVE picks. I can get behind it.

I feel the same way btw about ARI and Love. Love in any other draft would have been a horrible pick given the opportunity cost.

In this draft, I think it's defensible.

2013 ass draft.
With how smart you are, how come you hadn't come to this very logical conclusion a few weeks before the draft? :sunglasses:

I'm just kidding, giving you a hard time...

But that exact rationale is why I thought Simpson would be the pick and was in support of it. I don't see any obviously better alternatives.
 
Isn't this a movie or book? How to argue/complain without being wrong.
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Lol I'm definitely not arguing anything. I'm just talking about what the narrative will be if we don't win it all. I guess its not a fond subject to discuss. Didn't say anything about Simpson being the wrong pick because I don't know that at all.
 
I think the concept of eating crow in Tano's case is admitting you were wrong once we actually know what Simpson is. I would fully admit that if Simpson does well I commend him and was wrong because I didn't think he could do it. I'm not going to change up and be like, oh dude is great when I'm on record saying I think his ceiling is that of a career backup. That's fake admiration. Regardless of my thoughts, I'll be rooting for him to be successful anytime I see him in a Rams uniform playing because well its the Rams. Now if he doesn't do well, Tano's basically saying those that praised him should simply admit they were wrong. Don't worry, I'll remind y'all if you are but best believe its going to be in a way where I'm more so upset for us as Rams fans because I want to always see this team succeed.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! You're gonna remind people...?

In that spirit of reminding people of things, I'd be remiss not to remind you that if Simpson does well, you will need TWO helpings of crow.

I seem to recall a very, very wise poster on this site offering a bet that the Rams had strong interest in Simpson and would draft him. Turns out, you should probably eat that helping of crow now LoL :laugh4:
 
Whoa, whoa, whoa! You're gonna remind people...?

In that spirit of reminding people of things, I'd be remiss not to remind you that if Simpson does well, you will need TWO helpings of crow.

I seem to recall a very, very wise poster on this site offering a bet that the Rams had strong interest in Simpson and would draft him. Turns out, you should probably eat that helping of crow now LoL :laugh4:
Yeah, I remember that one and I was like bet what :laugh4:........I guess you missed where I admitted getting that part wrong so you want me to admit it again?

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With the bolded not only do the Rams tell you what they think needed to be done this offseason to do that but McVay has flat out told you what the thinks about it. It's up to us to listen to them.
In Snead's interview today, he alluded to the fact that they needed a QB2 for this year, and that may have helped tip their decision into drafting Simpson. It's possible that he's not only a move for the future.
 
With how smart you are, how come you hadn't come to this very logical conclusion a few weeks before the draft? :sunglasses:

I'm just kidding, giving you a hard time...

But that exact rationale is why I thought Simpson would be the pick and was in support of it. I don't see any obviously better alternatives.
If I was REALLY smart I'd be spending so much less time on this board.
 
I made this point pre draft - that picking Simpson can have an indirect immediate help for the 2026 team & Super Bowl run.

If he’s the future guy, it opens up those 2027+ draft picks to trade for whatever we need in 2026. It also gives us future cap space freedom not having to pay QB1 $50-70M/year - thereby allowing us to acquire an expensive guy; and extend our pending FAs.

So indirectly, even if he doesn’t play, he potentially could result in other 2026 additions helping us win the SB this coming season.
 
It's not about what I want in regards to this conversation. Its going to be painful to hear the talk and 2nd guessing if the Rams fall short of the Superbowl again and could have used a player (any player) that balled out that was picked after Simpson. Not what I want to happen but it is a very distinct possibility as Superbowls are extremely hard to come by.
Well that’s good for some.I enjoy watching the progression of players.Really not that person that’s Super Bowl or else.
 
Well that’s good for some.I enjoy watching the progression of players.Really not that person that’s Super Bowl or else.
I understand that and I too enjoy watching players progress although I'll take a Superbowl over everything else especially since it's at SoFi this upcoming year. Would be awesome to be the first team in NFL history to win it twice in their own stadium.
 
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Hey, RELAX, we are wining the Super Bowl anyway.
Just enjoy the McVay ride and stop bickering.
I do not know who the Rams next coach will be. But I know this, he will not be as good as McVay. He is our Lombardi, Walsh and Belichick all in one. Enjoy it because this ain't happening again anytime soon.
Its just hard for me to say "McVay is wrong".
If Simpson had Purdy's small girl hands and arms I might not like him, but he doesn't.