Raheem to ATL

[dang]

It was late and I said it wrong.

I meant to say

This board is also for opinions and not just facts.

My bad.

Opinions are 100% accepted and expected on this forum. It’s the key objective of this open forum. But we have SOME posters that insist their opinions are facts when they are not. And we have SOME posters who express the same opinion over and over and over again in hopes that one day it will be fact. They just can’t accept the fact that there are times when they are just flat out wrong.

 

[Tano]

So are going now going to admit Rams blitzed in situations you said you never saw them do it? You aid hey didn't, they did/

Can we agree the Rams did exactly what you wanted? Mix it up? Blitz some, but not always?



Good? 25% is great. what they are overall 35% is good. Very good.


Your writing style is hard to follow sometimes because sometimes what you say in one post is the opposite of what you said in a previous post.

But I am trying my best to understand.

I agree 25% is great ... when they blitzed.

NFL.com is not working for me right now so I can't checked the other games to see if they blitzed in those games in 3rd and longer.

And maybe they did blitz in those games as well but I want to double check just to make sure what I saw during the games is not different from what actually happened.

And yes I have trouble stating what I mean in my writing.

But even though it looks like I am changing things, I am not in my mind. It is just coming out wrong.

 

[JimY53]

I agree 25% is great ... when they blitzed.

NFL.com is not working for me right now so I can't checked the other games to see if they blitzed in those games in 3rd and longer.

And maybe they did blitz in those games as well but I want to double check just to make sure what I saw during the games is not different from what actually happened.

I am not going to pull out 46 specific plays from all-22 to see what happened on blitz versus no blitz. However, using your figures Rams failed at a 35% rate on you criteria ... 3rd and 10+ not in red zone, not in garbage time ...

35% is good. Not the best, but now bad ...

The 25% that is just a sample of 4 I pulled quickly not to establish a percentage but to show you that they DO blitz in those situations and I found those very quickly.

So that was not for you to try and say "when they blitz in those situations they were good, I now admit that". It was to show you that you were in error when you couldn't remember them blitzing at all. The "maybe they did on occasion, but if they did I did not see it"
(paraphrased)

And yes I have trouble stating what I mean in my writing.

But even though it looks like I am changing things, I am not in my mind. It is just coming out wrong.

I am getting that, but that os no problem - -all of us have weaknesses in ways we communicate ... everyone ... so that's not a big deal at all.

I am however, constantly getting confused as to what you exactly want in terms of your questions.

All I can say is I have done my best to look at all the situations you described as not that good and it turns out that they were pretty good, at every turn.

SO, let's put this to bed.
1. You didn't think they were very successful on 3rd and 10+, no red zone, not garbage time
Answer: They were 35%. That is pretty good compared to similar situations I've shown (excepting I didn't take out red zone and garbage time)

2. You didn't think they blitzed in those situations
Answer: Rams did. Pretty often, too.

3. Were not advocating blitzing all the time, just to mix it up
Answer: They do exactly that

My take: I honestly think it takes more that just watching a game on TV so see what is going on in most situations ... especially if there is no replay and an analyst breaking it down.

Also: I think you saw some bad failures on 3rd and 10+ and it frustrated you and as fans do, they remember the failures but not the success. We all do that on some level. I fretted more over things when I was a kid---like Rams playoff failures in the 1970s than I enjoy the playoff wins. I expected them to beat the Redskins, Cardinals, etc but rather than think of them as great success I remember what happened the week after. That's me.

That is what I think you are doing. Dobbs scrambles 16 yards for a first down and it's maddening. Dobbs third incomplete on 3rd and 10 and we simply expect it.

So, no more scenarios ... You are not going to find one "now add in 3rd a 6, not count last drive of 2nd quarter" that will fit what your memory of this is.

Probably time to concede, no?

 

[JimY53]

I agree 25% is great ... when they blitzed.

NFL.com is not working for me right now so I can't checked the other games to see if they blitzed in those games in 3rd and longer.

While not perferct, this is blitzing percentage ... 2023 ... no, Rams are not Vikings or Giants or Bucs but not Jets, 49ers, etc, either

This is NOT to your specifications but 3rd down (and 2nd and long) are usually blitz situations -- so there are 2nd and long, 3rd and medium , 3rd and long all mixed in. But 2023 Rams in the middle ...

This gives you an idea who is rushing with 4 vs 5 (or more)

Just a little perspctive

 

[baconandbread]

View: https://www.threads.net/@jourdan_rodrigue/post/C25vd_cvO1n/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

 

[Memento]

Jeez, Raheem, I'm glad you got the job, but stop poaching our coaches, please and thank you very much?

 

[dang]

View: https://www.threads.net/@jourdan_rodrigue/post/C25vd_cvO1n/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Doesn’t Raheem have any of his own friends? (Blue font).

 

[Kupped]

Doesn’t Raheem have any of his own friends? (Blue font).

Sean declined coming over as his OC.

 

[OldSchool]

Doesn’t Raheem have any of his own friends? (Blue font).

Nobody would go to Raheem's birthday party

 

[Loyal]

Congrats to Raheem. I certainly had issues with his philosophy on certain things defense. But he's a great man, great coach and going to be absolutely GREAT for that organization.

NOW, give me Jim Leonard, Jimmy Lake, or Evero

You will get Chris Schula, and like it!

 

[shovelpass]

3rd Down Blitz and Coverage Rates

Blitz League Avg (Rams)
1-2- 33.8%(26.1%)
3-6- 32.1%(52.6%)
7-1- 40.6%(46.9%)
11+- 17.7%(16.7%)

NFC
AFC

 

[gogoat1]

Well, let's call it a willful misreading of a comment. What I say is not a good look is complaining and then being proud of ignoring is not a good look. I find it ironic given the meaning of the word.
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If someone actually disagrees they can do it. I welcome any conversation about this topic. It seems there are some who just want to take cheap shots and then hide.


Right, because the main characteristic of a narcissist is showing some compassion and a sense of fairness for another human being. Maybe you need to review the definition of the word. In the case of Rah it would be the narcissist point of view to attack without regard to any of that. They only care how things affect them such as "Boo hoo, Rah plays soft and it makes me feel bad. What can I do to get even. I know I'll trash him online and do while making up falsehoods. Sniffle. Like that.


Well, on the way out there are some that continue to complain and have done so this very day. But when challenged they don't like it so, I guess, wish to ignore, not understanding the results of ignoring opposing views.

But I do appreciate you for illustrating the mindset I often refer to.


That is true, but if it's Staley or Evero be prepared for their soft zones.

Staley's first game with LAC ... man some of the CBs are deep. I wonder will the complaints be returning if Staley does what he's always done?

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All that for me ? You pulled quote's from multiple posts and then some lame gif.
Here is the deal, you are a new fish here and talk down to some of the poster I like. Like you are "somebody" who should be doing things like that around here. Like you have earned it or something.
No humility whatsoever that I can see and humility is one of the greatest things one can show in life.
Go to great lengths to show another ROD member "SEE, you are wrong".
Ole JY53 can not be wrong, EVER.
You are a insufferable narcissist who has to be either retired, a 14 year old in his moms basement or just some man who thinks his opinions on the Rams matter more than anyone else and spends hours and hours digging up stuff to prove yourself correct and everyone else wrong.
And that sir, is not a good look.

 

[JimY53]

All that for me ? You pulled quote's from multiple posts and then some lame gif.
Here is the deal, you are a new fish here and talk down to some of the poster I like. Like you are "somebody" who should be doing things like that around here. Like you have earned it or something.
No humility whatsoever that I can see and humility is one of the greatest things one can show in life.
Go to great lengths to show another ROD member "SEE, you are wrong".
Ole JY53 can not be wrong, EVER.
You are a insufferable narcissist who has to be either retired, a 14 year old in his moms basement or just some man who thinks his opinions on the Rams matter more than anyone else and spends hours and hours digging up stuff to prove yourself correct and everyone else wrong.
And that sir, is not a good look.

Tissue?

 

[RhodyRams]

ok... that's enough.
...

everybody back to your corners

 

[Tano]

3rd Down Blitz and Coverage Rates
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Blitz League Avg (Rams)
1-2- 33.8%(26.1%)
3-6- 32.1%(52.6%)
7-1- 40.6%(46.9%)
11+- 17.7%(16.7%)

NFC
AFC

And that stat right there makes the league too conservative on 11 + to me - but again that's just a preference of mind

I would like the Rams to be more aggressive on those downs but I am not the coach so I have no say in the matter

But that stat backs up what I have been saying all along.

 

[OldSchool]

And that stat right there makes the league too conservative on 11 + to me - but again that's just a preference of mind

I would like the Rams to be more aggressive on those downs but I am not the coach so I have no say in the matter

But that stat backs up what I have been saying all along.

Am I reading that right? We blitz less than league average on 3rd and short but much much more on 3rd and 3-6 yards also more on 3rd and 7-10 yards but 1% below average on 11+ yards?

 

[PARAM]

And that stat right there makes the league too conservative on 11 + to me - but again that's just a preference of mind

I would like the Rams to be more aggressive on those downs but I am not the coach so I have no say in the matter

But that stat backs up what I have been saying all along.

That 11+ includes 3rd and 19, 20, 31. Why blitz when you can play back and if you tackle well force a punt or even better more guys back makes the probability of a pick considerably higher. They should have taken it one more step.....3rd and 11-15. Then 16+. They take 3 steps to get to 10 yards, then zoom it on out.

 

[oldnotdead]

The Rams are going overboard to help Raheem succeed. Why? Because it makes them very attractive when they try to recruit coaches themselves. Aspiring coaches and now FA QBs all see the Rams as a golden opportunity to showcase themselves. You have to know that Mayfield's success in resurrecting his career was a factor in Wentz signing. The same can be said of coaches. The assistants that Raheem is taking are guys that he is being allowed to take. I have to believe they talked with Raheem at the end of the season I think from the Ram's very public and enthusiastic support of Morris as a HC candidate, that the Rams already had decided to move on at DC.

I have absolutely no problem with what is happening. Assistants coming in will know it's not a dead end job. Thus far the only unit coach that has plainly not delivered is Blackburn. There must be additional information that isn't public as to why he's still on the team. Right now IMO Blackburn is the biggest possible weakness in the coaching staff. STs were simply bad. Blame the high percentage of rookies? Probably but I don't buy it. Well it will be interesting to see how well STs play this coming season.

 

[JimY53]

Am I reading that right? We blitz less than league average on 3rd and short but much much more on 3rd and 3-6 yards also more on 3rd and 7-10 yards but 1% below average on 11+ yards?

Yes, you are seeing it right

Rams blitz far more than people give them credit for. I have posted similar things many times but not this exactly ... this came out for this year today, and it was a great post.

It just more evidence that dispells notions that people hold against Morris.

 

[JimY53]

That 11+ includes 3rd and 19, 20, 31. Why blitz when you can play back and if you tackle well force a punt or even better more guys back makes the probability of a pick considerably higher. They should have taken it one more step.....3rd and 11-15. Then 16+. They take 3 steps to get to 10 yards, then zoom it on out.

I have posted that the Rams were good on 3rd and 10+ outside the red zone and not in garbage time -- Tano's terms. They succed 65% of the time among the ebst in the NFL. He said they never blitzed to his recollection. I showed that they did sometimes.

This now shows it's about the NFL average.