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Suddenly meaning the last year or two? I mean, wasnt, McVay 50-0 or something when leading at Halftime at the beginning of his Rams tenure???
Sure. I don't know what the number was but like most great runs, it came to an end.

Last year because of a weak secondary and terrible special teams, this year because of a pick 6 and a bad call. I don't think all of a sudden we're blowing huge leads. I will say this much.......we need to not take our foot off of team's throats but then again if we're aggresive and lose, that'll be the complaint.
 
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I'm not talking about "moving the ball," I'm talking about getting and taking a win. Especially with a 26-7 3rd Quarter lead. Why is McVay suddenly blowing multiple LARGE 2nd Half leads???
What I see is a coach who doesn’t trust his close out run game, and gets soft on defense too soon.

Edit: and bad ST’s creating opportunities for late game heroics.
 
Sure. I don't know what the number was but like most great runs, it came to an end.

Last year because of a weak secondary and terrible special teams, this year because of a pick 6 and a bad call. I don't think all of a sudden we're blowing huge leads. I will say this much.......we need to not take our foot off of team's throats but then again if we're aggresive and lose, that'll be the complaint.
We didn't blow a 16-point Halftime lead by mid 3rd Quarter? Regardless of how the game ended?
 
If you listen to players interviews at draft time you realize the NFL is not in the business of employing high IQ individuals, just great athletes.

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People may say so much for the "super team" Rams.

But our super team hasn't even ever really taken the field - puka only has played 1 game and Garrett really never has played.
Also…
-13 personnel hasn’t hit its stride
yet. Ferg will be a weapon - health permitting.
-Kinchens has been out.
-Watson out for a bit but will return.
-Rams haven’t figured out PR/KR yet.
-Connor’s being elevated only helps.
-Donald will only improve.
-Staff finding receivers other than Puka will pay off.
-etc. etc. etc.
Have patience grasshoppers.
 
It was pretty much the defense again that lost the lead. They did it in Phllly last year. They did it in Seattle last year. They did it in Denver this year. With the exception of a blocked kick and TD punt return, it was mostly the defense. Mainly the secondary. I can't believe how wide open a receiver was in that last drive. To top it off again another wide open receiver on the next play. They couldn't cover receivers in Philly or Seattle. And now Denver. I thought our secondary weakness was addressed? All teams gotta do is stay away from McDuffie, then it becomes pitch and catch without Watson.
 

Yup, epidemic. :sleepy:

Another trend is we're not leading at the half (2022-2026 54.9%) as much as we did from 2017-2021 (55.6%). Is that a concern too? The thing is, it's a "doh!!!" stat (winning when leading at the half). The Rams had a team that went 58-29 from 2017 through the 2021 regular season. Almost 30 games over .500 so sure they were going to lead a lot of games at the half AND win them.

I do wonder if any credit is given the teams who've overcome those huge halftime deficits? Denver this Sunday (CCG in 2025). Seattle 12/18/25 (SB winners in 2025). Philadelphia 9/21/25 (SB winners in 2024) and I haven't found a 4th team that overcame a 10 point halftime deficit. But I digress.....I'm not sure how much I trust Blaine Grisak's numbers. And I shouldn't!!!!

Here's a list of the halftime leads the Rams have blown from 2022 to 2026. +4 pts, 1, 4, 7, 6, 3, 3, 12, 6, 16.

Since week 17 of 2021, the Rams are 27-10 in games which they held a halftime lead. Here's the kicker. Over that same span they have overcome halftime deficits 13 times. So it kinda more than evens out the half time leads blown.
 
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Yup, epidemic. :sleepy:

Another trend is we're not leading at the half (2022-2026 54.9%) as much as we did from 2017-2021 (55.6%). Is that a concern too? The thing is, it's a "doh!!!" stat (winning when leading at the half). The Rams had a team that went 58-29 from 2017 through the 2021 regular season. Almost 30 games over .500 so sure they were going to lead a lot of games at the half AND win them.

I do wonder if any credit is given the teams who've overcome those huge halftime deficits? Denver this Sunday (CCG in 2025). Seattle 12/18/25 (SB winners in 2025). Philadelphia 9/21/25 (SB winners in 2024) and I haven't found a 4th team that overcame a 10 point halftime deficit. But I digress.....I'm not sure how much I trust Blaine Grisak's numbers. And I shouldn't!!!!

Here's a list of the halftime leads the Rams have blown from 2022 to 2026. +4 pts, 1, 4, 7, 6, 3, 3, 12, 6, 16.

Since week 17 of 2021, the Rams are 27-10 in games which they held a halftime lead. Here's the kicker. Over that same span they have overcome halftime deficits 13 times. So it kinda more than evens out the half time leads blown.
How about the Rams against their direct competition peers, who stand in their way of the Super Bowl, rather than some abstract general stats.

In 2025 the 2-0 Rams have a chance to keep their record perfect and maintain the all-important 1-seed against the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles who beat the Rams IN Philadelphia in the previous Playoffs in a driving Snow. The Rams DOMINATE the entire 1st Half, and into the 3rd Quarter taking a 26-7 lead before seemingly taking their feet off the gas and seem to stand there watching Jalen Hurts throw pass after pass after pass to A.J. Brown as McVay and Co. (Shula) do nothing about it and allow Philly to come back for a HUGELY important victory.

Late 2025, the Rams go into Seattle on a Thursday Night for a game that can just about CLINCH the 1-seed, a Bye and HFA all Playoffs. The Rams lead 30-14 and INTERCEPT Sam Darnold with 9 minutes to go, yet Sean McVay blows THIS lead sonehow. And please, dont bring up the Charbonnet play, he blew the game BESIDES that play, just like he blew the Denver game BESIDES the bad PI call.

McVay is as good as his record says he is. If he doesn’t win the Super Bowl in the next 2 years will this club it will be a massive under achievement and disappointment IMHO.
 
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How about the Rams against their direct competition peers, who stand in their way of the Super Bowl, rather than some abstract general stats.

In 2025 the 2-0 Rams have a chance to keep their record perfect and maintain the all-important 1-seed against the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles who beat the Rams IN Philadelphia in the previous Playoffs in a driving Snow. The Rams DOMINATE the entire 1st Half, and into the 3rd Quarter taking a 26-7 lead before seemingly taking their feet off the gas and seem to stand there watching Jalen Hurts throw pass after pass after pass to A.J. Brown as McVay and Co. (Shula) do nothing about it and allow Philly to come back for a HUGELY important victory.

Late 2025, the Rams go into Seattle on a Thursday Night for a game that can just about CLINCH the 1-seed, a Bye and HFA all Playoffs. The Rams lead 30-14 and INTERCEPT Sam Darnold with 9 minutes to go, yet Sean McVay blows THIS lead sonehow. And please, dont bring up the Charbonnet play, he blew the game BESIDES that play, just like he blew the Denver game BESIDES the bad PI call.

McVay is as good as his record says he is. If he doesn’t win the Super Bowl in the next 2 years will this club it will be a massive under achievement and disappointment IMHO.

Yeah - sure,but things happen for a reason. This PHILLY game is Big for both Teams.
No AJ Brown is a big part of what might happen,with Puka back.
 
How about the Rams against their direct competition peers, who stand in their way of the Super Bowl, rather than some abstract general stats.
Let me get this straight.....when people want to bitch about the Rams blowing a lead, they sight Grisak's article and stats. But when those numbers are shown to be inaccurate or incorrect, the new numbers are "abstract general stats". Got it.

In 2025 the 2-0 Rams have a chance to keep their record perfect and maintain the all-important 1-seed against the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles who beat the Rams IN Philadelphia in the previous Playoffs in a driving Snow. The Rams DOMINATE the entire 1st Half, and into the 3rd Quarter taking a 26-7 lead before seemingly taking their feet off the gas and seem to stand there watching Jalen Hurts throw pass after pass after pass to A.J. Brown as McVay and Co. (Shula) do nothing about it and allow Philly to come back for a HUGELY important victory.
"Maintain the all important 1 seed" in week three?????? I would point to the fact even with that loss to an excellent Philly team (and later the Seattle team), the Rams could have had the 1 seed with wins over Carolina and Atlanta. And by all means, let's not give any credit to that Philly team (or Denver, who come back all the time).
Late 2025, the Rams go into Seattle on a Thursday Night for a game that can just about CLINCH the 1-seed, a Bye and HFA all Playoffs. The Rams lead 30-14 and INTERCEPT Sam Darnold with 9 minutes to go, yet Sean McVay blows THIS lead sonehow. And please, dont bring up the Charbonnet play, he blew the game BESIDES that play, just like he blew the Denver game BESIDES the bad PI call.
Yes, by all means, like disrespecting those good teams by not crediting them, let's ignore the obvious and say, "even with the Charbonnet play and the DPI/interception against Denver, McVay blew that game!!' when the facts are without those two ridiculous calls, the Rams win both games.
McVay is as good as his record says he is. If he doesn’t win the Super Bowl in the next 2 years will this club it will be a massive under achievement and disappointment IMHO.
I agree. But WTF does that have to do with getting beat by excellent teams?
 
Let me get this straight.....when people want to bitch about the Rams blowing a lead, they sight Grisak's article and stats. But when those numbers are shown to be inaccurate or incorrect, the new numbers are "abstract general stats". Got it.


"Maintain the all important 1 seed" in week three?????? I would point to the fact even with that loss to an excellent Philly team, the Rams could have had the 1 seed with wins over Carolina and Atlanta, winning the tie breaker with Seattle. And by all means, let's not give any credit to that Philly team (or Denver, who come back all the time).

Yes, by all means, like disrespecting those good teams by not crediting them, let's ignore the obvious and say, "even with the Charbonnet play and the DPI/interception against Denver, McVay blew that game!!' when the facts are without those two ridiculous calls, the Rams win both games.

I agree. But WTF does that have to do with getting beat by excellent teams?
When you have a 19-point lead in the 3rd Quarter, and a 16-point lead in the 4th Quarter, even against "excellent" teams, shouldn't the Rams (an excellent team?) be able to hold those leads???? Or the Rams are just a notch below those excellent teams and you're okay with that?
 
When you have a 19-point lead in the 3rd Quarter, and a 16-point lead in the 4th Quarter, even against "excellent" teams, shouldn't the Rams (an excellent team?) be able to hold those leads???? Or the Rams are just a notch below those excellent teams and you're okay with that?
Sure they should. Provided something freaky doesn't happen. Or are you saying, nothing freaky happened in both of those games? Hey, you want to whine and complain about those losses, have at it. You want to claim they both happen without the freak 2 pointer and phantom DPI call, I gotta push back.

You cited Blaine Grisak's numbers as "support" for your argument. I simply showed they were incorrect and added the 13 come from behind at the half wins the Rams accomplished over that same period. You called that abstract general stats. I call BS.

Here's a fact. Good teams are going to come back sometimes against other good teams. It happens. Get over it. Or continue to adhere to Grisak's numbers and what he calls, worrisome trends. Here's another FACT. The Rams are 27-10 when leading at the half from 2022 to 2026. Discounting that bizarre, injury filled 2022 season, they are 24-6. Yet Grisak would like us to believe it's gotten worse the last couple of years (15-4 from 2024 to 2026 compared to 9-6 om 2022 & 2023). Something just doesn't add up. But let's ignore that too.
 
Sure they should. Provided something freaky doesn't happen. Or are you saying, nothing freaky happened in both of those games? Hey, you want to whine and complain about those losses, have at it. You want to claim they both happen without the freak 2 pointer and phantom DPI call, I gotta push back.

You cited Blaine Grisak's numbers as "support" for your argument. I simply showed they were incorrect and added the 13 come from behind at the half wins the Rams accomplished over that same period. You called that abstract general stats. I call BS.

Here's a fact. Good teams are going to come back sometimes against other good teams. It happens. Get over it.
Yep.

26-7 in Philly
30-14 in Seattle
16-0 in Denver

All perfectly NORMAL losses. Got it.
 
Yep.

26-7 in Philly
30-14 in Seattle
16-0 in Denver

All perfectly NORMAL losses. Got it.
Nope, nothing normal. Which was my fucking point!

Hey, it is what it is. You don't like losing. Neither do I. You want to cite some "worrisome trend" (thanks to some hack writer) that doesn't exist. I just want to move on to the next game.
 
Nope, nothing normal. Which was my fucking point!

Hey, it is what it is. You don't like losing. Neither do I. You want to cite some "worrisome trend" (thanks to some hack writer) that doesn't exist. I just want to move on to the next game.
Yep. Win Sunday, I'll forgive 26-7 and the prior Philly bitch-slappings. I mean, McVay is supposed to be a FAR better HC than Sirianni, right?
 
Nope, nothing normal. Which was my fucking point!

Hey, it is what it is. You don't like losing. Neither do I. You want to cite some "worrisome trend" (thanks to some hack writer) that doesn't exist. I just want to move on to the next game.
You think it took Douchebag Blaine Grisak for us to suddenly learn that trend??? There's far smarter and better Ram fans within this FORUM that of course already KNEW about it and cited it!