That's fair, but this is happening frequently with other injured players also. They say one thing, then hours or a day later, something completely different.
Puka Injury Thread (merged)
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Just a thought on McVay ........ he IS the master at coach speak and leaving some wiggle room with what he says.
Saying a player (Watson) is day to day, then shutting him down for the season two days later, is not coach speak.
This is 1000% what happened. McVay said the other day he was going to miss the same number of games whether he went on IR or not. It’s not like they discovered the injury wasnt as bad and decided not to put him on IR. The decision to not put him on IR originally was a league compliance issue and has nothing to do with the severity of Nacua’s injury.
Not sure what people are upset about this, McVay was crystal clear about this the other day.
Trying to figure-out the numbers, and will take any help I can get.
I believe 8 players can be designated to return from IR, and brought-back to the 53-man roster.
Thus far, I count 4 players brought-back ... Garrett, Trost, Rivers and Ferguson (21-day-window activated).
I believe there are 3 players the Rams want, hope and expect to be able to return ... Turner, Adams and Nacua.
That would make 7, with the maximum being 8.
Among the other players currently on the IR that the Rams may want / hope to bring-back there is Dedich.
Anyone ... feel free to let me know if I missed anyone.
Above, I counted Ferguson as a player brought back from IR because his 21-day practice window has already been started; and the Rams have just two options ... activate him to the 53-man roster after that 21 days pass (or earlier) ... OR ... Ferguson is on IR for the season.
I believe (but coule be wrong) that Ferguson already counts towards the 8-player return limit.
There was never an official “day to day” designation on Watson. McVay said in a postgame interview he thought it might be week to week but they had to do more tests. They did the test and discovered it was worse than originally thought.
It’s a totally unreasonable expectation to think a coach will know an hour after an injury happens exactly how long a player will be out. Sometimes it takes a couple days. They don’t do it on purpose. Same exact thing happened with Dart and the Giants. During the MNF broadcast they said Giants officials thought it might be a 3-6 week injury. They ran tests the next day and found out it was much worse. That’s just how it goes sometimes.
Agreed
Do you think that maybe he got more info from the staff on his shoulder after that comment? Makes sense to me.
That particular comment isn't what I was talking about anyway.
It's his general penchant for bloviating on almost any topic and avoiding comments that could box him into a corner tomorrow.
Hate to be a gloom and doom guy, but things ain't looking good for the good guys. The 3 toughest games Puka will miss. One loss in those 3 and we got a shot. 2 losses and there will be zero room for error. 3 losses and all we got is playing spoiler trying to knock the seahags out of contention. If we can only win one of those 3 Green Bay gives them a better shot. KC is non conference. SF's gonna win the division.
It is what it is. We have a very talented roster. Best in the league. The one thing we all knew would derail our best laid plans was injuries. And they happened. Garrett half a season. Puka a minimum of 6 total games. Adams probably around 6 games. Watson the rest of the season. Poona Ford the rest of the season. McDuffie 3 games. Kobie Turner at least 4. Could be more. Ferguson getting close to half a season now. Parkinson's missed a couple and been dinged up in a couple more. Still questionable. Avila a minimum of 4.
That is a lot to overcome. Just not sure they can do it. I will say, if they figure out how to survive all those injuries and make the playoffs, mostly healthy, we will be the proverbial team no one wants to play.
It is what it is. We have a very talented roster. Best in the league. The one thing we all knew would derail our best laid plans was injuries. And they happened. Garrett half a season. Puka a minimum of 6 total games. Adams probably around 6 games. Watson the rest of the season. Poona Ford the rest of the season. McDuffie 3 games. Kobie Turner at least 4. Could be more. Ferguson getting close to half a season now. Parkinson's missed a couple and been dinged up in a couple more. Still questionable. Avila a minimum of 4.
That is a lot to overcome. Just not sure they can do it. I will say, if they figure out how to survive all those injuries and make the playoffs, mostly healthy, we will be the proverbial team no one wants to play.
And I honestly don’t remember a time when it didn’t happen. I think what has ramped it up in people’s minds is the number of times it has had to be discussed this season with very key players. McVay has really had to hedge his bets of late. And I don’t think he ever wants to say the worst of an injury unless he knows for sure. This just seems to be frustration aimed at a nothing burger.
I guess I just don’t have a problem with that. I find hard to listen to at times but I remember Fish thinking he was outsmarting people by grinning while saying shit you knew was intentionally inaccurate. I’m ok with whatever McVay feels he has to say. Its results I’m more concerned with.
Stafford and the D are going to have to bring their A games.
As a coach once told Maurice Jones Drew:
In the NFL opportunities are given instead of earned.
Go CJ. Go CJ.
It's your birthday. It's your birthday.
In the NFL opportunities are given instead of earned.
Go CJ. Go CJ.
It's your birthday. It's your birthday.
I just can't get worked up about this until I see the game on Sunday. The Rams have to figure out how to score with the guys they have. I'm excited to see how they do that. I might be depressed after the game, but not now.
I can only listen to him for a minute too, and even his interviews with JB get old fast, imo.
Yes it is because Watson himself said he was doing everything he could to get through the season. At some point, the doctors say "you need surgery now" and he gives up on the idea of trying to make it one day at a time.
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Hey, don't laugh. I thought - We've got Karty for Knuckle kickoffs, McManus for extra points and pretending we might make a kick beyond 50+ yards, and we could sure use another whipsaw try-hard like Grupe on Kick returns!