orlando pace HOF snub

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Boffo97 said:
IMO, it sucks for now that Pace and Warner didn't make the cut... but they'll get there eventually. And when they do, no one will care that they weren't "first ballot".
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I'm thinking it's a plot.. But I'll leave it at that.. :cool:
 
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Both will make it eventually, I believe.

You got to admit;

Pace's career ended / deteriorated earlier than ideal.

Warner was a late bloomer.

Neither had exceptional longevity, otherwise they would have been locks.
 
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RaminExile said:
Outrageous. Pace should be the definition of "first ballot HOF'er".
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Nah, too many holdouts and he spent a few years taking the first two or three games to get in game shape.

He had amazing talent, but a bad head and shitty agents.

He wasn't even the top guy during his career, maybe not even top 3.
 
CGI_Ram said:
Both will make it eventually, I believe.

You got to admit;

Pace's career ended / deteriorated earlier than ideal.

Warner was a late bloomer.

Neither had exceptional longevity, otherwise they would have been locks.
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Hey CGI, how ya doin bud? I'm wondering if Pace holding out and holding the Rams hostage with all those late camps had something to do with the media's vote?
 
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What a disgrace to one of the best LT's ever.
 
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This tops it off. Yet another embarrassment.

By far, the NFL has had the worst public relations year in the history of professional sports. All that's left is a Super Bowl between my two least-favorite teams; in the home of St. Louis' former team. Then, a further coverup of the Patriots' misdeeds by the commissioner.

The only redemption is that, should the Patriots win, it will complete an easy and well-deserved narrative; they cheated and won; didn't cheat and lost; then cheated and won again. I don't care how talented a team is; if they don't play by the rules, they challenge the foundation of their sport and don't qualify for greatness. The Patriots did it to themselves; and best of all, there is NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT!
 
Will Shields would have to go in before Pace, considering he was a finalist in 2012, 2013 and 2014. Leaving out the Super Bowls, Shields missed one game in his entire career and was a 12-time Pro-Bowler. Pace will get his due, but not this year.
 
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WelfareRam said:
Hey CGI, how ya doin bud? I'm wondering if Pace holding out and holding the Rams hostage with all those late camps had something to do with the media's vote?
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Big Walt missed like three training camps in a row.

Will Shields kept Orlando out this year. Willie Roaf (11 Pro Bowls, two all-decade teams) had to wait a year too, it's disappointing but not that big of a deal. Orlando can easily get in next year.
 
I think Bettis should have waited. His numbers aren't all that spectacular but he's an analyst and still in the public eye, so that helps
 
tempests said:
Big Walt missed like three training camps in a row.

Will Shields kept Orlando out this year. Willie Roaf (11 Pro Bowls, two all-decade teams) had to wait a year too, it's disappointing but not that big of a deal. Orlando can easily get in next year.
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Absolutely, the big fella is a shoe in to the hall. He helped save Kurt's life for a few years anyways : )
 
I hate that Pace didn't make it, But Shields was do. But then again so was Greene!
 
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