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COLEMAN SHELTON

Overview

Shelton fits the average height/weight profile for the position, but his lack of desired play strength and overall anchor is a concern. Shelton's technique is solid and his initial quickness is good enough, but he needs to do a better job of gaining and maintaining positioning if he wants to find a way to cover up for his lack of necessary power and land NFL playing time.

Strengths
  • Three-year starter with some starting experience at tackle, guard and center
  • Adequate athlete
  • Has enough initial quickness to compete for positioning on scoop blocks
  • Takes choppy, controlled steps up to second level target
  • Maintains width of his base as run and pass blocker
  • Plays with good strength in his hands
  • Has smooth pass sets to his target and can mirror effectively
  • Shoots his hands with short, efficient punch and does a good job of maintaining proper back and head posture throughout the rep
  • Technique is generally solid
Weaknesses
  • Lack of desired play strength is evident too often on tape
  • Has below average upper body strength and struggles to keep blocks centered
  • Can be jostled by power allowing defenders to escape block security and squeeze rushing lanes
  • Doesn't have desired acceleration to stay out front of running back on long pulls
  • Unlikely to be one-on-one block winner at NFL level
  • Legs won't generate much push as a down or drive blocker
  • Despite solid technique, simply doesn't have enough anchor to keep bull rushers from walking him back into the pocket
 

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Just read that the Rams put Lawler on IR and Signed C/OG Coleman Shelton. If true, can he (Coleman) help or can we expect him to get moved soon?
 

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2018 NFL Draft Profiles: Offensive Lineman Coleman Shelton

Coleman Shelton already made history as a two-star recruit who made All-Conference twice as an offensive lineman. This weekend, he will seek to make more history by becoming the first Husky offensive lineman selected in the NFL draft since Senio Kelemete in 2012. Today, let’s take a deeper look at how Shelton got here and what might come next for the big man.

Background
Scouting services are historically hard on centers, due in part to the presumption that it’s easier for an offensive lineman to move from the outside in than the reverse. Since he profiled as a center even in his prep days in Pasadena, Shelton earned only two stars as a recruit. Local superpowers USC and UCLA overlooked him, and he was left with a choice between scholarship offers between Washington and California.

After a redshirt year, Shelton served as a Swiss Army Knife on the line in the 2014 and 2015 seasons. Over those two years, Shelton started at every position on the line except his natural center spot. Even though he didn’t have a regular position, he captained the team against Oregon in 2015 and won the team’s Lineman of the Year award.

He permanently shifted to the inside in 2016 and started every game there for the remainder of his Husky career. He made All-Conference both years, including first team in 2017. He also made Academic All-Conference both years. In his senior season, he repeated as the team’s Lineman of the Year.

While there are few stats to quantify the performance of offensive linemen (except for his single tackle in 2016!), all indicators say that Shelton was one of the most important players on the team over the last couple of years. Chris Peterson describes him as a player with a “chip on his shoulder” and offensive line coach Scott Huff raves about his intensity and attitude. His coaches, teammates, and the media all believe that he is one of the best offensive linemen in the conference. But will that be enough to get him drafted?

Scouting Report
Center is not a position typically targeted early in the NFL draft. For the same reasons that the position receives less attention in recruiting rankings, only the very best centers tend to get drafted at all. Over the last five seasons, only eight total Pac-12 centers have been drafted. The Huskies haven’t sent a center into the NFL draft since 1995 when Frank Garcia heard his name called in the fourth round.

One opportunity for Shelton to distinguish himself is the Draft Combine. Shelton weighed in at 295 pounds, 15 pounds heavier than when he arrived at Washington and enough for him to have above-average size for a center. Shelton also participated in the 40 Yard Dash, Vertical Jump, Broad Jump, 3 Cone Drill, and 20 Yard Shuttle. Consistent with his reputation as a versatile athlete, Shelton tested above-average for his position group in both the 40 Yard Dash and 20 Yard Shuttle. Unfortunately, he was below the midpoint for all of the other drills. Nonetheless, his performance in the speed and agility categories lines him up nicely with other successful offensive linemen.

Scouts who have publicly evaluated Shelton have similar reviews of his game. Everyone notes how much experience he has against high-end competition. Indeed, more than 40 starts in a Power Five conference is a unique qualification for an offensive lineman. His versatility and agility also earn him high marks and could set him up as a good depth piece or a player who can help in the screen game.

There are two consistent critiques of Shelton and they are closely related. The first is his overall power. Despite his large frame, scouts question his power at the point of attack. As Bleacher Report’s draft guru Matt Miller describes it, “One-on-one drive blocks become stalemates at best and will be worse in the NFL.” The other concern is Shelton’s arm length. At 31.5”, he has notably short arms for an NFL offensive lineman. A center can get by with somewhat shorter arms because he does not have to seal the edge, but Shelton’s arm length might prevent him from using his agility to play other positions along the line.

Altogether, Miller describes him as a “priority free agent” who would fit well on a practice squad due to his experience at multiple positions and reputation as a hard worker.

Draft Outlook
Shelton’s relative strengths and weaknesses put him squarely on the draft bubble. Over the last three years, NFL teams have drafted either six or seven centers in each draft. Naturally, Mel Kiper has Shelton rated as his #7 center available. Miller has Shelton ranked as the 26th overall offensive lineman and projects his 24th lineman to be the last one drafted. Jon Dove, who covers the NFL Draft for Fansided, is slightly more optimistic. He sees Shelton’s upside as that of a starting center if he can add upper-body strength.

While there are enough mock drafts online that some will inevitably list Shelton as a likely draftee, none of the most reputable media outlets project him as a selection. On the other hand, Shelton has obvious strengths, lots of experience, and a personality that will likely attract coaches. If Shelton is drafted, it will likely be in the 6th or 7th round, but I suspect that he’s slightly more likely to go undrafted. That will leave him as a coveted undrafted free agent who will have to earn his playing time. Of course, it won’t be the first time for Shelton, who arrived at Washington without a certain role and became a standout.
 

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By: Cameron DaSilva | 29 minutes ago
The Los Angeles Rams opted not to put Justin Lawler on injured reserve when final cuts were made, and for good reason. They did place him on IR Monday, but because he made the 53-man roster at first, he’s eligible to return after eight weeks.
Had he been put on the injured reserve list Saturday, he would’ve been ruled out for the season – the same way Micah Kiser is.

To take Lawler’s place on the 53-man roster, the Rams signed former Cardinals center Coleman Shelton.

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Shelton spent the preseason with Arizona, playing three of their four exhibition games. He started the preseason finale and played 43 snaps (80 percent) at center.
He played his college football at Washington, starting 47 games in four seasons. He played multiple positions, beginning at right tackle in 2014 before moving to left tackle and guard the following season. In 2016, he found a home at center and started 27 games there in his final two seasons.
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Shelton was named first-team All-Pac-12 in 2017 and second-team All-Pac-12 in 2016, so he did enter the NFL with some college accolades to his name. He went undrafted in 2018 and first landed with the 49ers as a free agent.
With Shelton joining the 53-man roster, the Rams now have nine offensive linemen available. Shelton is likely to be the primary backup at center behind Brian Allen with Aaron Neary out indefinitely.
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Rams are familiar with him being a Cardinal and Whiner. Played multiple positions in college. Backup OC at least until Neary comes back. I don't know anything but, what the article stated. Who knows maybe he can compete and stay on the roster.

I had the Rams keeping Vitas H. as a backup OC/OG. The Rams like Shelton more.
 

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Guessing that Greg Gaines may have spoken to McVay/Kromer about Coleman as he must have faced off against him in practice quite a few times at Washington.

Is Demby holding on by a thread ? Since he is no longer being considered as a reserve Center, perhaps Brewer is more suitable at OG ?
 
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Well, there's two less games a year that I face Aaron Donald.... ~Coleman[
 

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The key to this season will be the interior OL facing teams like the Bears and Eagles who have big physical DTs.

I would feel a lot better about our offense if our C and RG were both about 320 and real nasty.
 

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UCLA IS A SUPERPOWER?

Yeah, ... back when Gary Beban was QB. That 1967 UCLA vs USC game was epic.
LA college sports were at its peak back then with Beban, OJ Simpson & Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul Jabbar).
 

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Coleman needs a lot of work make no mistake about that. He needs to hit the weight room and his technique is inconsistent. I watched a game in which he played this year and saw potential....and that's about all. But at this point, it's enough. IMO he's better than Neary with better movement skills. He has decent feet for a center but only average arm length. That said I think he could develop into a decent C/OG and I see Brewer in the mix for RG next year when Blythe's contract expires.

Center has it's own unique skillset if a player is going to be good at it. There are also minimum physical parameters you would like met as well. It's why Blythe was passed over in favor of Brian Allen. It's why Coleman is the backup center, not Blythe.

Blythe really struggled against the Saints. He better have a good game this time around or he could find himself on the wire. He has no contract impediments keeping him on the team. He needs to step up in that second game or IMO Brewer might step in.

BTW the reason I speculated that Mundt might not make the team and that Blanton possibly would (my original 53 list) is because, the Rams almost cut Mundt before the 2018 season. He had to take a significant pay cut to stay. It's why I don't see him making the team next year unless he becomes a real ST's demon.

Bottom line is that this roster could very well change by the end of the bye week, on both sides of the ball.
 

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Yeah, ... back when Gary Beban was QB. That 1967 UCLA vs USC game was epic.
LA college sports were at its peak back then with Beban, OJ Simpson & Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul Jabbar).
I remember those days.
 
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FYI, UW Husky Coleman Shelton was rated by some Draftnik publications as a better 2018 OC Prospect that MSU Spartan Brian Allen!:unsure: He played ALL the OLine positions at UW and Professor Kromer will like that versatility IMO. FWIW I'm sure Ex-Huskies Gaines and Rapp will vouch for Shelton,
the All Pac-12 OC in 2017.

Regarding Neary's future status versus Shelton....
Coleman Shelton played against tougher competition at UW than Aaron Neary did at Eastern Washington. Like Brian Allen, Shelton plays with a mean streak, and as written up above, is strong in technique and getting to the second level. His 5.24 time in the 40 is decent for an OC, and the big knock on Shelton from all the Draftnik pubs in 2018 was that he "needed to build upper body strength and point-of-attack power."
Hopefully Shelton spent a lot of time in the weight room in SF and Zona these past 18 months.

I have a hunch the 24 year old (DOB July 28, 1995) from Loyola HS in Pasadena CA sticks and Aaron JAG Neary is gonzo. As always, JMO.
 

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As a former resident of Seattle, of course, I followed the Huskies (where I did some graduate work). I like Coleman but I'm not blind this is issues either. I will give him a year in the Ram's training room and working with Kromer before passing judgment.

Neary has always been a heavy drinker and god knows if there has been anything else. This is from his days at EW. The Rams don't need that kind of problem. There are reasons the Rams have been Aaron's 4th team in 3 years. Neary keeps getting looks because of his physical traits, but it's significant how quickly teams move on from him. With Shelton and Brewer, the Rams don't need Neary.
 

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FYI, UW Husky Coleman Shelton was rated by some Draftnik publications as a better 2018 OC Prospect that MSU Spartan Brian Allen!:unsure: He played ALL the OLine positions at UW and Professor Kromer will like that versatility IMO. FWIW I'm sure Ex-Huskies Gaines and Rapp will vouch for Shelton,
the All Pac-12 OC in 2017.

Regarding Neary's future status versus Shelton....
Coleman Shelton played against tougher competition at UW than Aaron Neary did at Eastern Washington. Like Brian Allen, Shelton plays with a mean streak, and as written up above, is strong in technique and getting to the second level. His 5.24 time in the 40 is decent for an OC, and the big knock on Shelton from all the Draftnik pubs in 2018 was that he "needed to build upper body strength and point-of-attack power."
Hopefully Shelton spent a lot of time in the weight room in SF and Zona these past 18 months.

I have a hunch the 24 year old (DOB July 28, 1995) from Loyola HS in Pasadena CA sticks and Aaron JAG Neary is gonzo. As always, JMO.

Bullshit - you just like his name. :p
 

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I wonder how this affects Jamil Demby? He was getting all the 3rd team center action early behind Neary & Allen. Is Demby feeling relief that Kromer has brought in a pure center type? Just my opinion here on Demby @ center .......was not going to happen. If there was a need Demby to starting RG & Blythe to OC.

Coleman Shelton sounds like an Austin Blythe clone to me. Blythe is listed @ 6-3/298 Shelton 6-3/299. Blythe played all over the Iowa OL same as Shelton did for Washington. Kromer got real lucky with the dinky Blythe maybe he strikes sliver again here with Shelton? Kromer's scheme usually can make do with OL'ers like Blythe & Shelton @ the interior....usually:oops:.

What does this say about Kolone chances @ 53 player roster material? Kolone had a lot more football starting experience in college & with two preseasons with Kromer & a season as a starter with the SD Fleet @ center?

Shelton not exactly the veteran OL'er most were thinking of here. He has 3 preseason starts under his belt, no regular seasons action.
Guessing that Greg Gaines may have spoken to McVay/Kromer about Coleman as he must have faced off against him in practice quite a few times at Washington.

Is Demby holding on by a thread ? Since he is no longer being considered as a reserve Center, perhaps Brewer is more suitable at OG ?
The 6-6/320 plus pound Rookie UDFS Chandler Brewer outperformed Demby by a large degree @ both OG posts. Brewer's time table @ RG might be just around the bye......... ;)