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Interesting read here: https://nfllines.com/nfl-2023-comparative-offensive-line-ratings-rankings/

NFL 2023 – Comparative Offensive Line Ratings & Rankings​

Comparing NFL Offensive Lines

The Individual Offensive Line Summaries can be found here: NFL 2023 Offensive Line Ratings & Rankings

Rating NFL Offensive Line units is a bit of a tricky proposition. Most rankings involve looking at the individual linemans’ grades and or block win rates. These individual grades are excellent for determining the play and value of individual lineman, but do not really speak to the effectiveness of the unit as a whole over the course of a season.

Like almost all the ratings on nfllines.com, Offensive Line Ratings are COMPARATIVE. The offensive lines get their scores in each metric based on their performance against all other teams, not against a set standard. While against a set standard, every offensive line could grade out or score an 80, meaning they are all equally good.

In comparative ratings, the chances of that happening are virtually zero. Comparative ratings will almost always sort out a ranking. Unfortunately that means someone has to be first and someone last, even when such a title is not deserved. In rare instances, this can lead to the best of a mediocre bunch being #1 and appearing great, or the worst of a fantastic bunch being last and appearing incompetent.

Individual Lineman Grades vs Effectiveness of the Offensive Line as a Unit​

As an example, let’s take a line in which all 5 lineman are grading out at 90% pass block win %. Every ten snaps, each misses one block. However, there is a big difference in the final result of a play dependent on when each of the 5 misses their 1 block over 10 snaps. If all 5 were to miss their block on the same play, the result would be 9 clean pockets and one hell of a disasterous 10th play.

Contrast this potential outcome with the possibility the each of the 5 linemen misses their one block on 5 different plays. In this outcome, the result would be 5 clean pockets, and some combination of 5 hurries, scrambles, sacks, and quite possibly completions/incompletions since now only one rusher is breaking through instead of 4 or 5.

While this is an entirely theoretical example, it should be clear that the individual grades of linemen can lead to a wide outcome of actual play results. Essentially, the timing of the fail % of indivdual lineman play a huge role in the overall effectiveness of the offensive line as a unit. In a cruel statistical twist, it may actually be more beneficial for individual linemen to all make their mistakes at once, 5 out of 5 failing at the same time, as opposed to 4 out of 5 doing the job on 5 different occasions.

The quarterback also plays a role in making up for the occasional lineman miscue. In our first example where there is a jailbreak, a statuesque quarterback is toast, and a mobile quarterback has a small % chance of escaping. In the latter example, the mobile quarterback is probably going to have a high % chance of avoiding the single free rusher, while the less mobile quarteback probably has a fair chance of making one guy miss.

Thus the type of quarterback will determine which of the failure outcomes is preferred. Teams with a non mobile quarterback would probably prefer the linemen to all make the mistake at the same time. They would give up a sack 1 in 10 dropbacks, but would leave their non mobile quaterback a clean pocket 9 times out of 10.

Teams with a mobile quarterback would probably prefer for their linemen to make their mistakes at different times. Their mobile quarterback has a high % chance of avoiding a single rusher and still making a play. Only a jailbreak kind of rush can negate an extremely mobile and savvy modern quarterback.

Note – This was written before ESPN published win block rates for entire lines and against run and pass this week. I will use these line win rates in the rankings and calculations as they are now publically available. I posted the chart below but here is the link 2023 NFL pass rush, run stop, blocking win rate rankings

The Role & Metrics of the Offensive Line

For the offensive line ratings, we are going to assume that the offensive line’s 4 main objectives are:
  • Open holes for the rushing game
  • Identify, adjust and negate blitzes
  • Protect the quarterback for a reasonable amount of time
  • Win & hold blocks as a unit
In addition, like any other player or unit on the field, they should accomplish this without drawing fouls. Since this is basically a given for all units/players, I won’t list it as a main objective, but offensive lines will be scored on their ability to avoid costly penalties.

The List of Offensive Line Metrics​

  • Rushing Yards Before Contact x 2
  • Blitz %
  • Pressure %
  • Blitz Deflection %
  • Average Pocket Time
  • Sack %
  • Estimated Penalty Yards
  • Overall Block Win%
Let’s look at each objective and identify the metric(s) used to measure the line’s effectiveness.

Opening Holes For The Rushing Game​

Clearly one of the offensive line’s main tasks is to run block effectively. An offensive line that cannot run block and create opportunities for ball carriers is going to find itself forced into a lot of predictable pass block situations. Without the threat of an effective running game, defensive players can sit on pass routes and pass rushers can pin their ears back.

The metric to be used to measure run block effectiveness is Rushing Yards Before Contact(YBC), and this will be the only rushing metric used.. While the ball carrier’s ability is certainly a part of the metric, the size of the hole, or the time until the first defender can make contact with a ball carrier, is primarily a result of blocking. And while wide receivers and tight end blocking is also a factor, we can simply assume that all wr/te blocks are equal(which they surely are not), and assume these blocks are simply an extension of the line blocking(or that the wr/te in the play assume linemen status for the play).

Because the run game can in and of itself win ball games, and an effective run game compliments an effective pass game, the value of this metric will be doubled(the score each line receives for this metric is multiplied by two). Thus the score you see in the Standardized YBC column is the sd value, and the next column shows the YBC score(its SD value * 2).

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NFL Offensive Line Ratings Yards Before Contact Pivot Table

Identifying, Adjust To, And Negate Blitzes​

This is probably the most difficult and important task assigned to the offensive line. Before providing time for a quarterback to throw, the line must identify the pass rushers, call the line protection, and still be aware of any misidentifications or additional blitzers not accounted for pre-snap. If any of this goes wrong without a blitz, it can lead to a negative play. When it goes wrong with a blitz, the potential for disasterous outcomes rises significantly.

We are going to assign three metrics to measuring this task:

Blitz % – An offensive line that faces a high amount of blitzing will score more higher in this metric. The purpose of this metric is to measure the amount of blitzes the line has had to face while producing the stats it has. It should be clear that a line facing 30% blitz % who gave up just 5 sacks, is probably more effective than a line who faced a 15% blitz % and gave up 5 sacks. Either the blitz pickup of the latter line is not good OR they are getting beat without a blitz.

Pressure % – Pressure % is simply the amount of hurries, knockdowns and sacks as a cumulative total, changed into a percentage by dividing that sum by the amount of pass attempts, scrambles & sacks. It assigns equal weight to a knockdown, a hurry and a sack even though they each have different Expected Point values, and affects on down/distance/outcome.

For measuring purposes, offensive lines that allow the least amount of pressure will score highest.

Blitz Deflection % – This is a metric you have never heard of because I just made it up. I am defining Blitz Deflection % as [1 – (Pressure % / Blitz %)]. Let’s look at a simple example of what it is and why it may be a valuable metric.

Let’s assume a line has faced a Blitz % of 25%. Let’s also assume, that every blitz leads directly to pressure. Thus a Blitz % of 25% should lead to a Pressure % of 25%. Essentially, blitzes always work. Thus if a team faces 25% Blitzes, then the average line would allow 25% pressure.

A line that could keep pressure % BELOW Blitz % would be doing a better job than a line who’s Pressure % was higher than their Blitz %. If this happens the line must be giving up pressure outside the Blitz and negating little to none of the blitzes sent.

Looking at the chart, Baltimore’s offensive line has faced the blitz on 30.68% of designed passing plays. Their pressure % is a mere 14.49%. While this cannot show the exact breakdown of how often Baltimore’s offensive line picked up the blitz and how many time they allowed pressure without a blitz, it should be obvious that line is picking up blitzes.

The ratio [1 – (14.49% / 30.68%)] = 52.78%. Thus Baltimore’s offensive line is deflecting 52.78% of blitzes.

Conversely, let’s take a look at Pittsburgh’s offensive line in this metric. The Steelers Offensive line faces a blitz 18.08% of the time(by far the lowest % in the league, Cincinnati is second least blitzed at 21.61%). However the Steeler offensive line allows a pressure % of 25.32%.

The ratio [1-(25.32 / 18.08%)] = -40.35%. The Steeler’s line is not deflecting any blitzes and giving up pressure outside of being blitzed.

Just remember Blitz Deflection is not measuring the actual amount of blitz pickups, but the theoretical amount a line is negating blitzes.

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NFL Offensive Line Ratings – Blitz Pivot Table

Protect the Quarterback for a Reasonable Amount of Time

Regardless as to whether the blitz pickup has been identified and executed properly, the offensive line is still tasked with giving the quarterback enough time to go through his reads and complete the passing motion. It would be great if the qb is still standing and in the pocket when this is completed, but sometimes things go wrong and quarterbacks get sacked.

The two metrics being used in this portion of the offensive line ratings are fairly straightforward.

Average Time in The Pocket – The amount of time the quarterback has before contact or being flushed is average time in the pocket. It should follow that allowing more time for the quarterback would be good, and allowing less time bad.

This is a bit of scheming that plays into this as some times have an extremely quick read system that inherently gets the ball out faster than other schemes looking for deeper, or double, routes. But it is a fairly reliable indicator on the ability of the line to pass protect and form a workable qb pocket.

Sack % – Sacks are the worst kind of pressure as they come with loss of down and yardage by the very definition of a sack. This is an inverse metric in that it is better to have a lower sack % than a higher one. Lines that allow a lower % of sack will score well, while porous lines will score poorly.

Minimize Penalties​

Another metric in measuring offensive lines will be their ability to avoid getting in their own way. Every penalty on each individual line is collected and the entire line is responsible for the total penalties.

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NFL Offensive Line ratings – Penalties Pivot Table


For estimating penalty yardage, a false start is 5 yards, holding and any other penalty is 10 yards(the other penalties are a mix of 5 yard and 15 yard infractions, thus I decided to use 10 yards as the punishement for each. Offsetting and declined penalties are still counted. Multiplier out the types of penalties and the estimated yardage for each results in an estimated total penalty yardage total for each offensive line. This is also an inverse metric. Lines that have been penalized the most will score poorly, while the mistake free lines will score high.

Winning Blocks – Overall Offensive Line Blocking Win Rate​

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ESPN Offensive Block Win Rates


The final metric is another metric you may not have seen before, Overall Block Win Rate. To calculate this metric, ESPN’s Pass Blocking Win Rate and Rush Blocking Win Rate percentages were used for each team(which just so happened to be published this week).

Then the breakdown between passing and running plays for each team were taken into account. To find the overall block win rate, the pass block win rate was multiplied by the passing play %, and the rush block win rate was multiplied by the rush play %. Turning the resulting metric back into a percentage, leads to overall block win rate.

For example, a team has a pass block win rate of 60% and a rush block win rate of 70%. They pass 60% of the time and run 40% of the time. What is the overall block win %?

Overall Block Win % = [(0.60*60)+(0.70*40)]/100 = 64%

You can see all the data and calculation in the main chart. Perhaps you think everything before this section is nonsense and overall block win rate % is the true measure of offensive lines. In that case, here is the ranking based solely on Overall Block Win Rate %

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NFL 2023 – Offensive Line Overall Block WIn Rate % by Team

Final Offensive Line Ratings & Rankings​

Summing up the score from the 8 metrics(and doubling the YBC value), we arrive at a final rating for each of the 32 offensive lines. Like any rating system there are sure to be disagreements and niggles in the methodology. However it did seem to correctly identify the best and worse of the offensive line play thus far in 2023.

The Offensive Line Ratings see Baltimore, Philadelphia, Miami, & The LA Rams as the having the best offensive lines. It sees Houston, Pittsburgh, Carolina, and the extremely woeful NY Giants as having the worst performing offensive lines thus far in 2023.
 

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You have to go deeper into the link to get to the part that publishes his overall rankings but he only had the Ravens, Eagles, and Dolphins ahead of the Rams with all 4 head and shoulders over the rest.

This article shows areas of weakness but in reality, this group is vastly outperforming expectations
 

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I can't agree with the Rams having a top line. But yes I do agree they are doing some things well. I also think McVay is great at countering line weaknesses with scheme.

Linked it because it runs counter to what I am seeing.
 

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Interesting since his block rating metric has us at 20 12 and 27 depending on the chart. Not a top 4 like is said based on that imo.
 

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The O Line has looked solid for the most part. QB and skill positions have been inconsistent. Outside of Nacua, and Williams before he went down there hasn't been a lot from the rest of the group, although Atwell has performed when given the chance. Nothing from the TE's, zippo. I think getting Williams back this week is huge. The trio of Williams, Nacua, and Atwell can be dynamic. Really like to see Allen get some targets if he can block, but maybe that's the issue.
 

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I will say our OL has shown a surprising ability to run block when Royce Freeman is in the backfield. Not dominant or anything. But he is averaging 4.3 ypc and has a 58% success rate (40% yards 1st down, 60% 2nd down, 100% 3rd or 4th down). And what is most important is how defenses react to him in the backfield. Defenses do not want him thumping into their secondary, when he gets going you see the difference in the rush.

Going forward I think he is the key for us in that backfield outside of Williams who should be returning soon. But if they're smart Williams shouldn't be overused, which is to say he should be a change of pace role. And for comparison he is averaging 4.7 ypc with a 60% success rate.

Henderson btw is at 2.4 ypc with a 37% success rate. He needs to go and Evans should be capable of being a third RB by now.
 

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Henderson btw is at 2.4 ypc with a 37% success rate. He needs to go and Evans should be capable of being a third RB by now.
And yet McVay somehow couldn't see that he was ineffective and that Freeman was??!! I didn't watch the game, but read the comments and saw highlights. How stubborn is McVay at this point?? Maybe he has always been this way, but sheesh... It's annoying.
 

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And yet McVay somehow couldn't see that he was ineffective and that Freeman was??!! I didn't watch the game, but read the comments and saw highlights. How stubborn is McVay at this point?? Maybe he has always been this way, but sheesh... It's annoying.
Henderson can pass block... that's why Mcvay trusts him.

Henderson is also a good receiver.
 

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And yet McVay somehow couldn't see that he was ineffective and that Freeman was??!!
Freeman played 63% of the offensive snaps, compared to Henderson's 36%.

Doesn't that mean McVay Could and Did see which back was more effective?

I didn't watch the game, but read the comments and saw highlights. How stubborn is McVay at this point?? Maybe he has always been this way, but sheesh... It's annoying.
I understand that if you didn't watch the game, you could have missed which RB played the most snaps but why did you assume that Henderson played more?
 

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And yet McVay somehow couldn't see that he was ineffective and that Freeman was??!! I didn't watch the game, but read the comments and saw highlights. How stubborn is McVay at this point?? Maybe he has always been this way, but sheesh... It's annoying.
He is just blind as hell when it comes to RBs. Always has been. All coaches have weaknesses and that's his greatest weakness IMO.
 

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Freeman played 63% of the offensive snaps, compared to Henderson's 36%.

Doesn't that mean McVay Could and Did see which back was more effective?
This is true for that game. But we probably win that game much easier had he not wasted snaps with an ineffective back who defenses disregard.

Also this goes way back with McVay. Example after example. Super Bowl loss he gave Gurley more carries than CJ, which helped the Patriots keep his offense from finding any sort of rhythm. CJ should have been the focus from the gameplan on, mashing his ass into that front and wearing them down. That was how you challenge that 6-1 front nonsense is get a bowling ball into their secondary.

I chalked that stuff up to him learning, he's a young coach of course. But he still has poor instincts with backs.
 

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Henderson can pass block... that's why Mcvay trusts him.

Henderson is also a good receiver.
True and true. Which goes back to him not valuing the run game. It is what it is. He's still a great coach and offensive mind. He won a Super Bowl without a run game too.

I just imagine how good he'd be if he could unfuck himself in stacking that RB room and it's usage.
 
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Freeman played 63% of the offensive snaps, compared to Henderson's 36%.

Doesn't that mean McVay Could and Did see which back was more effective?


I understand that if you didn't watch the game, you could have missed which RB played the most snaps but why did you assume that Henderson played more?
Yeah, that's on me for not looking at the snap counts. Was mainly going off comments in the GDT, haha. That's usually a good, yet emotional account of what is happening..but obviously does not paint an completely accurate picture.
 

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#4 – Los Angeles Rams 4.38​

Real Strengths: 1

  • Blitz Deflection
Strengths: 6

  • Blitz %
  • Yards Before Contact
  • Pressure %
  • Sack %
  • Penalties
  • Average Pocket Time
Weaknesses: 1

  • Overall Block Win Rate
Real Weaknesses: 0

Note – The Rams have just a good solid offensive line. A little more investment here could make this a formidable unit next year.
 

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Yeah, that's on me for not looking at the snap counts. Was mainly going off comments in the GDT, haha. That's usually a good, yet emotional account of what is happening..but obviously does not paint an completely accurate picture.
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I wanted to post a "You Are Forgiven" gif but I just loved this one.:laugh1:
 

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I will say our OL has shown a surprising ability to run block when Royce Freeman is in the backfield. Not dominant or anything. But he is averaging 4.3 ypc and has a 58% success rate (40% yards 1st down, 60% 2nd down, 100% 3rd or 4th down). And what is most important is how defenses react to him in the backfield. Defenses do not want him thumping into their secondary, when he gets going you see the difference in the rush.

Going forward I think he is the key for us in that backfield outside of Williams who should be returning soon. But if they're smart Williams shouldn't be overused, which is to say he should be a change of pace role. And for comparison he is averaging 4.7 ypc with a 60% success rate.

Henderson btw is at 2.4 ypc with a 37% success rate. He needs to go and Evans should be capable of being a third RB by now.
Interesting that both Williams and Rivers should be good to go this week if I'm not mistaken.

I wonder if they'll keep 4 RBs or try to sneak Evans on to the practice squad.
 

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A little more investment here could make this a formidable unit next year.
Fuck it…

2024 Draft

Round 1 Olu Fashanu
Round 2 JC Latham
Round 3 Sedrick Van Pran

Rams’ line in 2024:

Fashanu
Avila
Van Pran
Dotson
Latham

#itallstartsinthetrenches
 

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Fuck it…

2024 Draft

Round 1 Olu Fashanu
Round 2 JC Latham
Round 3 Sedrick Van Pran

Rams’ line in 2024:

Fashanu
Avila
Van Pran
Dotson
Latham

#itallstartsinthetrenches
I realize that you started the post with "Fuck It" but this really isn't realistic ... is it?
 

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This OL was cobbled together at the very last minute before the season started. They were never given the opportunity to gel as a unit during TC as there was constant rotation and shifting going on. IMO Wendell has done a great job with the timeline he's been given. Jackson was given this year as a prove-it period and so far IMO he's shown both good and bad. That said I don't see the consistency you want from him as a franchise LT. I've always seen him as a RT and have said as much all year. He's got better feet and equal strength when compared to Havenstein.

Dotson so far has been an upgrade over Corbett. He has his flaws but so do all OL. I have to agree with Madden in their 78 grade and not the 83.7 grade given to him by PFF.

IMO we fans as observers don't normally factor in coaching decisions. Case in point, we saw the stark difference between the OL's ability to protect when McVay totally abandons the run allowing the defense to blitz and tee off on the OL compared to when McVay stays balanced with the OL and actually uses his best RB as his lead runner. When McVay stays balanced it backs the front 7 off and the OL then can protect well. The worst enemy to the OL has been their own HC and his incomprehensible playcalling. IMO Snead told Sean to quit fucking around and do his job and fucking game plan for the opponent.

When McVay did that he was able to beat an opponent that was riding high and coming in with confidence. I have no doubt the word was also passed to Morris who actually looked to have game planned for the Seahawks. He too had been simply calling his job in rolling out whatever used game plan he happened to see on his desk at the moment. Both McVay and Morris showed that the first half failures were on them, not the players.

Both McVay and Morris now know they must actually coach for the remainder of the season. Like every other unit on this roster the OL is good if used properly.