Myles Garrett return status

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Poor Jared, left a team where he flourished, to a team where he is clearly not fitting in. I guess we will take him back for some late round picks this offseason.

The trade looks fantastic now BTW. Doubt we beat the commodes without MG
 
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Flatlyner said:
Poor Jared, left a team where he flourished, to a team where he is clearly not fitting in. I guess we will take him back for some late round picks this offseason.

The trade looks fantastic now BTW. Doubt we beat the commodes without MG
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Unless Jared develops some other moves besides the bullrush, he will be a very limited player. That was always the case. I think it's more him reaching a plateau in his development and the league getting a read on him than it is a bad scheme fit.
 
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DzRams said:
Unless Jared develops some other moves besides the bullrush, he will be a very limited player. That was always the case. I think it's more him reaching a plateau in his development and the league getting a read on him than it is a bad scheme fit.
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Yeah. Hard part is he’s always been the best edge rusher on the team, so there hasn’t really been anyone to show him things. BY is great, but Jared doesn’t have the speed BY has.
 
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DzRams said:
Unless Jared develops some other moves besides the bullrush, he will be a very limited player. That was always the case. I think it's more him reaching a plateau in his development and the league getting a read on him than it is a bad scheme fit.
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Yeah, that theory doesn't make much sense to me. It wouldn't take teams three years to get a read on a one-trick pony. I don't think it's a coincidence that his numbers dropped off a cliff after he changed teams and schemes.
 
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jrry32 said:
Yeah, that theory doesn't make much sense to me. It wouldn't take teams three years to get a read on a one-trick pony. I don't think it's a coincidence that his numbers dropped off a cliff after he changed teams and schemes.
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Valid perspective.

My opinion is partially informed by the fact that the advanced metrics - pass rush win rate, run stop rate, etc. - showed that Verse was a better and more efficient player in 2024 than in 2025. I think that's partially because the league got a read on him.

I do believe the scheme change is a factor, but I've always felt there was a ceiling to his potential if he didn't develop other moves.
 
My opinion on Verse, starting in his second season, was that he was not athletic enough to ever get big sack numbers. He is a bit muscle bound and not a fluid enough athlete (Hence the bull-rush being his only real move). Verse was seemingly always just missing, and so frustratingly close to getting sacks. It always seemed like those little elusive moves that QBs make when they feel the pressure were just enough to get away from Jared. He is a good edge. He gets pressures and hurries, and sets the edge well enough, I just don't think he is ever going to develop into one of the big sack number guys.

Edge/DE guys that get 12+ sacks are almost always fluid athletes.
 
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tklongball said:
My opinion on Verse, starting in his second season, was that he was not athletic enough to ever get big sack numbers. He is a bit muscle bound and not a fluid enough athlete (Hence the bull-rush being his only real move). Verse was seemingly always just missing, and so frustratingly close to getting sacks. It always seemed like those little elusive moves that QBs make when they feel the pressure were just enough to get away from Jared. He is a good edge. He gets pressures and hurries, and sets the edge well enough, I just don't think he is ever going to develop into one of the big sack number guys.

Edge/DE guys that get 12+ sacks are almost always fluid athletes.
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Verse was very stiff and awkward in space. I also feel like something got figured out the 2nd half of last year, because our D line stopped getting pressure.
 
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