A minor knee surgery scope is not a season-ending injury. I think they could have done this surgery a few weeks ago; why wait, and why did they play an injured Garrett?
Myles Garrett return status
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News Analysis: Myles Garrett's knee injury a warning sign for suddenly fragile Rams defense
Myles Garrett being placed on injured reserve threatens to transform what was expected to be a ferocious Rams defense into something much more tame.sports.yahoo.com
"It's going to be something that's good for us to look at and understand how teams going forward are going to try to stop our rush," Turner said, "So we can attack that head-on and we can figure out what's our solution, how do we just play fast."
Is anyone else flabbergasted by this quote? It's the exact gameplan the whiners have used against the Rams for 7 years.
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Yes I am also flabbergasted by the quote. Because what they should be realizing about SF by now is that playing them well requires those boys coming in with the mentality of doing the work to shut down their run game first. When SF's shitty QBs don't have a run game clearing out the middle of the field things look very different. Those schemed up short passes and swing routes suddenly won't be enough to move the chains consistently.
But for some reason we always seem to prioritize a team building style that completely ignores stopping the run. Even after last season when we suddenly couldn't stop the run post-injury to Poona. And to their credit they often step that up in the playoffs, however they're never that defense that you know you can't run against, but rather the defense that you know will break if the other team is determined enough to run the ball.
McVay also tends to toughen up his team as the season unfolds. As opposed to doing that in preseason and camp. Again he's great and I appreciate him. But he'd be a more potent offensive mind if he would embrace physicality in his front, and in his run attack. Doesn't mean he needs to reload the RB room with all physical types. But maybe just have one hammer back there that you soften up the defense with early on, who is hard to bring down, the type nobody wants to tackle. Then his typical shifty type, and maybe the pass catching change of pace to round out the room. But of course the key is making that other defense need to do the work to contain his run game as well.
Exactly the opposite of the formula I was hoping for, having the defense to carry the team and ease up on Staffords heroics.
That does happen more often than not because you always want to avoid surgery, but I concur, with hindsight being 20/20 should have had the knee scoped months ago.
Also the schedule is not kind to the Rams, you could be looking at a 1-4 start and that might actually be looking on the bright side because the next four games are the Giants, Broncos, Eagles & Bills.
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With our Defensive scheme being shit would it even matter at this point? I don’t want to look at it as if we got a lemon.
We don't know how it played out, except that they waited. I'm just saying we shouldn't be surprised by the surgery announcement, despite McVay's positive spin leading up to the game. I know coaches don't like to emphasize injury and give as little information to the opposing teams.
Should there be blame for waiting? Who should we blame?
Maybe. I don't know the answers to both questions.
Getting McDuffie to play zone is some Koala-brained bullshit. Makes no sense getting a guy like him and making play zone. What a waste.
The guy did nothing all pre-season, this couldn't have been addressed then?
Or did the Rams hold off to hoodwink Donald out of retirement?
And is Donald going to even bother coming back now?
And how did he pass his physical for the trade to go through in the first place?
What a joke.
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Eh, it would still hurt. What stings the most is what we gave up for Myles and this was a clear "all in this year" move. If this lasts more than 4 wks than the move was really all for nothing.
Makes me wonder who the hell performed his physical.
Either way 4 weeks isn't the end of the season. We have an offense that should be able to keep us competitive, assuming the OL actually does their jobs and Stafford quits playing like he's wearing adult depends. Our schedule over the next 4 is: Giants, @ Broncos, @ Eagles, Bills. I figure the Broncos are going to be very tough, Eagles too. Not sure what the Bills are going to look like but at the very least that one's a shootout for us.
I wouldn't call the Giants game a must-win, as that's a very overused term. But it's damn close.
Either way 4 weeks isn't the end of the season. We have an offense that should be able to keep us competitive, assuming the OL actually does their jobs and Stafford quits playing like he's wearing adult depends. Our schedule over the next 4 is: Giants, @ Broncos, @ Eagles, Bills. I figure the Broncos are going to be very tough, Eagles too. Not sure what the Bills are going to look like but at the very least that one's a shootout for us.
I wouldn't call the Giants game a must-win, as that's a very overused term. But it's damn close.
The Super Bowl isn’t won in September. Everyone needs to take a deep breath. It’s a deep group and we will play good football. By the time Garrett returns, Aaron Donald will be dominating
This shit could be much much worse. Hes not our entire team and honestly we should win without him. Its not like verse was lighting the world on fire when he was here. Id argue Stewart was just as effective
0-5 is a real possibility if the team decides to play the way they played against the 49ers.
I hate to say that I sort of saw this coming. It was concerning that he wasn’t practicing, but I didn’t wanna come off as negative since it seems like reports were he was fine
The game tape showed the proof. Anyone saying “oh he just got handled by an all-pro in Trent Williams” had obviously never seen Garrett play before. He looked slow, weak, and he kept sheepishly doing the same half ass strong arm move. It was clear he was hurt.
It’s possible Myles himself led the team to believe he wasn’t hurt, and he’d be fine. And it’s possible the team trusted the player until it was clear they had to force him to make a decision.
The game tape showed the proof. Anyone saying “oh he just got handled by an all-pro in Trent Williams” had obviously never seen Garrett play before. He looked slow, weak, and he kept sheepishly doing the same half ass strong arm move. It was clear he was hurt.
It’s possible Myles himself led the team to believe he wasn’t hurt, and he’d be fine. And it’s possible the team trusted the player until it was clear they had to force him to make a decision.
What i don't understand is why they waited. We don't know when it happened so im assuming a lot here. But either he wasnt being forthcoming about how he was feeling or the rams weren't paying attention. Im gonna lean on my first assumption
I would be very surprised by that. McVay teams tend to bounce back and play their best after big losses.
I figure they have to be just as pissed off as we are. Our boys hate SF too.
Maybe they wanted to let him try to play through it. Who knows. It sucks that the team doesn't say what the surgery was for.
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Stewart has done absolutely nothing compared to what Verse has done his 2 seasons with us and has done nothing to even compare the two as equals. I agree that things could be much worse, but lets not be disingenuous and act like Verse wasnt a rising star and one of the best edge guys in the league. Like Ive stated earlier, we gave up a lot for Myles, so it kind of is a big deal.
But why? You got preseason to do stuff like this. I honestly doubt they knew the full extent of the injury. Players often try to hide injuries to stay on the field in hopes to play through it.
In all regards pressure rates don't really mean squat if you don't get sacks or TFLs. Stewart's small sample size is about to get a whole lot bigger so by all accounts jury is still out on that one