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Ah, thanks for making that connection for me. Beautiful.not sure if there's any mortal kombat fans here but she was decent as sonya blade in mk:legacy
Ah, thanks for making that connection for me. Beautiful.not sure if there's any mortal kombat fans here but she was decent as sonya blade in mk:legacy
Ah, thanks for making that connection for me. Beautiful.
not sure if there's any mortal kombat fans here but she was decent as sonya blade in mk:legacy
I agree that a new regime might want to clean house but I don't know that they'd do that with a potential franchise QB. Maybe I'm overvaluing Carr but pointing to the team's record to explain getting rid of him would mean the Colts would have dumped Peyton and the Cowboys would have dumped Aikman, etc.The Raiders are 0-9 with this promising QB.
If the losing continues, chances are pretty strong that the owner is going to clean house at GM and HC. New GMs/HCs typically want their guy. And if that guy isn't Carr and they have Winston or Mariota are rated higher to those guys, it's possible the organization could accept a such a deal and select their Newton one year after spending a second rounder on their Clausen.
Plus, the owner is probably going to have a say in this, too. Especially, if they can't get a blockbuster deal for their choice, one of these guys wins the National Championship, and he believes that Winston or Mariota can put butts in the seats.
The Rams could even throw in Zac Stacy if they had to do so.
Lots of IFs, but it could happen.
My goodness. Resistance is futile
I agree that a new regime might want to clean house but I don't know that they'd do that with a potential franchise QB. Maybe I'm overvaluing Carr but pointing to the team's record to explain getting rid of him would mean the Colts would have dumped Peyton and the Cowboys would have dumped Aikman, etc.
Seeing how he's looked so far, if some team gets him for a 2nd I think it'd be a steal.
The Raiders are 0-9 with this promising QB.
If the losing continues, chances are pretty strong that the owner is going to clean house at GM and HC. New GMs/HCs typically want their guy. And if that guy isn't Carr and they have Winston or Mariota are rated higher to those guys, it's possible the organization could accept a such a deal and select their Newton one year after spending a second rounder on their Clausen.
Plus, the owner is probably going to have a say in this, too. Especially, if they can't get a blockbuster deal for their choice, one of these guys wins the National Championship, and he believes that Winston or Mariota can put butts in the seats.
The Rams could even throw in Zac Stacy if they had to do so.
Lots of IFs, but it could happen.
Jeri RyanAh, Love me some Gerry Redding. I spent many an evening lusting after that Borg bitch. I kept imagining. That her pussy vibrated!
As for the QB situation. The Rams better get it figured out or they are fooked! Take Rodgers from Green Bay, Luck from Indy, Brady from the Cheatriots, etc.....and you have a bunch of average teams. A good QB is a must.
Here's the reality brother... The FA quarterbacks are terrible. Best one will end up being Sanchez, who has already underwhelmed greatly in the Schotty offense. Why he would want to be coached by Schotty again, well, he almost surely wouldn't. Which is fine because he's not gonna be worth what someone will pay him.
It's far easier to sign your OL in FA, say one good young player and another for depth, then draft the QB with the top pick. Then your critical QB piece is affordable in comparison, has higher talent level, and is under contract for what, six years? Still room to draft one more OL piece as well, too.
From there if Sam renegotiates on a short term deal fine. If not, cut or trade him.
Agreed which is why I think Mok meant the Raiders' GM would be laughing at Snead.
Back to the OP, I believe the Rams are a QB and OC away from being legit. No matter which QB they get he's not gonna be any good playing for Schotty; he'll be up and down week by week, stifled at one turn, looking great the next. Teasing us weekly.
Fish is gonna have to make a change this offseason to go with the drafting of a QB high. Plain and simple.
But, I agree that it's doubtful that Jeff Fisher ties his wagon to a rookie QB entering year four in St. Louis.
Some more 'reality'...there is absolutely nothing certain about drafting a QB with a top pick. See Sam Bradford. See Ryan Leaf. See.....a LONG list of top QB picks who have been busts.
And IMO, Bradford can only be considered a 'bust' as a result of an inability to stay healthy. The talent is there for him to be a good, but probably not great, starting NFL QB.
Your proposed approach is just one more possibility with it's own inherent risks.
I think your plan sounds reasonable but only in a vacuum. It's a plan that appears to be planning for the future but the reality is, if Hundley is taken, sits behind Quarterback "X" to develop...what happens?Yep. Draft a new QB (Hundley, as he's the only real option for me atm) and sit him a year to learn the playbook of a new OC. Bring him in in 2016 afterhaving surrounded him with weapons.
And it boils down to that IMO. What do they do in 2015? If it's another 5-11 to 7-9 year, I think it's time for a change in 2016. I don't want any built in excuses like starting a rookie QB that gives them a mulligan year. QB injuries are GOING to happen. This regime has not overcome them and maybe that will be their undoing. I'm not against having a 3rd through 6th round guy waiting in wings like some of the successful teams seem to often do, but burning a 1st rounder on a QB for the 2015 Rams doesn't seem like planning for the future to me.
I don't think he'd want to, but the reality is and probably is, if we have a shot at Mariota or Hundley, the decision is going to be made FOR Fisher. Can't rely on Sam. Davis doesn't look like the future. Hill isn't. There isn't anything out there to trade for to use as a stop-gap really. There's no QB from what I can see that's worth it to target in 2016.
Telling the fanbase to wait until 2017 to hopefully maybe get a new franchise QB or even just an average one, is gonna be a tough sell.
Rams all but have to draft a QB next year to let sit and develop. And there's only 2, maybe 3, I'd take that chance on personally.