McVay wants clarity on Stafford status ASAP

[Loyal]

Stafford's only leverage is to make 0$
If he retires or holds out, he doesnt get paid

But he has gotten paid. I doubt he'll be begging on the street corner Like @Merlin and me....

 

[snackdaddy]

So we have clarity from Stafford. And its good news. Now we need clarity from the Rams. If they think they just need a few tweaks to be a legit Superbowl contender they absolutely have to make sure he stays with the team and not somewhere else. Because there are not any better options out there than him. And he wants to be their quarterback for it. Kind of a no brainer.

 

[Loyal]

Yeah. But if we are being honest, Stafford is some dropped INTs from possibly being considered in the same boat. Sure, he may be on a higher deck, but with those INTs he'd be on the boat.

I guess I'm just not one who believes that a team cannot offset the loss of any one player with the right coaching staff and acquisitions. Sure QB is different but so many said that the defense was toast without Donald, too. Would they have been better with him? Probably. Then again his presence probably stops some of the other additions.

I think Stafford is the ONE essential Rams player. Without him, we may not make the playoffs the next couple of years. As much as I loved AD, you could not say that when he left.. The QB position is different and is more impactful than any other. Coaching won't make a John Wolford good enough and without a massive, franchise altering deal with multiple 1st round picks in trade, we are not replacing Stafford.
Pay the man.

 

[FrantikRam]

So we have clarity from Stafford. And its good news. Now we need clarity from the Rams. If they think they just need a few tweaks to be a legit Superbowl contender they absolutely have to make sure he stays with the team and not somewhere else. Because there are not any better options out there than him. And he wants to be their quarterback for it. Kind of a no brainer.

I agree....although I will say this....

McVay is (obviously) more important to our future than Stafford. And IF McVay decided it was time to move on and get younger, while in the short term we are likely not contenders, it more than likely means McVay is here for the long haul. Another year or two of Stafford, another period of time where we are only 90% sure McVay will continue to coach the Rams moving forward.

So do I want Stafford to return? Absolutely.

BUT that is the silver lining I will latch onto if it doesn't happen.

 

[Faceplant]

Does any other franchise have drama like this every damn year?? It's getting to be rigoddamndiculous.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I think Stafford is the ONE essential Rams player. Without him, we may not make the playoffs the next couple of years. As much as I loved AD, you could not say that when he left.. The QB position is different and is more impactful than any other. Coaching won't make a John Wolford good enough and without a massive, franchise altering deal with multiple 1st round picks in trade, we are not replacing Stafford.
Pay the man.

Yeah. Will we have to disagree.

IMO, if Shanahan can get to two NFC Championships and a Super Bowl with Garappolo, then McVay / Snead probably can put a team together than can make the playoffs with him.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

It's not our money, which is why we have deep pocket Stan Kroenke! Fork it over, STan!

Hey I'm with you there, while you're at it Stan, pay us too!

 

[Loyal]

Yeah. Will we have to disagree.

IMO, if Shanahan can get to two NFC Championships and a Super Bowl with Garappolo, then McVay / Snead probably can put a team together than can make the playoffs with him.

Yeah, that defense Frisco had was more important than Jimmy G. for those two NFC Championships. Plus, we had/have an offense that requires more from a QB than Shanny needed, which was better than Frisco (Super Bowl 56).
So yeah, we disagree.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Yeah, that defense Frisco had was more important than Jimmy G. for those two NFC Championships. Plus, we had/have an offense that requires more from a QB than Shanny needed, which was better than Frisco (Super Bowl 56).
So yeah, we disagree.

Sure. But, one could argue that the defense was just as important as Stafford this season and with some additions could be approach that 49er defense.

 

[Memphis Ram]

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[Elmgrovegnome]

I’m in wait and see mode. All of this speculation is hurting my brain.

 

[RamFan503]

I really think they don't have all the leverage. If they don't agree to a contract, it causes a huge headache for the organization to look for his replacement in a shitty QB market. Stafford and his agent know they are by far the Rams best option at winning right now. This whole he's under contract for 2 years means squat if he holds out. With that said, the part I respect about our front office is they don't dick around when it comes to tough decisions. Not saying it will, but if it somehow got ugly on the business side, I know they will not hesitate to rip the band-aid off and do what they have to do. I don't see it going down like that, but we'll all find what truly happens in time.

I always think that argument of who has the leverage is overblown. The player has the talent and the team owns the purse strings. Yeah sometimes a player can have the team over a barrel but more often than not, it seems that there are other things at play that determine how negotiations go. The market for the player, the team’s power at the position, and where a team can go within cap constraints pretty much dictate the offer.

Of course “cap constraints “ is always that thing shrouded in mystery. A lot of guys on here know way more about the cap than I do but even they often get blind sided by how it truly works.

 

[RamFan503]

He has a contract with the Rams, and like last year, he doesnt need a new one. There is no other team, that's just fan fodder.
The question is, and we clearly dont know what the answer is, what does he want? If he truly is hinting at retirement, then there's no point in guaranteeing more than 2025. Both sides have been honorable and I dont see where that will change

And there is something we also don’t know and can’t know. Does Staff want a contract for more than a year? Do the Rams have a plan for post Staff? I’d love to know but we won’t probably even after the negotiations are done.

Personally, I took Staff’s comments to say that he’s wanting to play for a couple more seasons. And I also think he’s up to the job. I would like to see that happen.

This is not to squash speculation. It’s kinda what we do.

 

[RamFan503]

So Stan - if you’re watching - offer Matthew a consulting job in your company with stock options. Then the Rams can give him a zero dollars contract for two years. Done deal.

 

[majrleaged]

So Stan - if you’re watching - offer Matthew a consulting job in your company with stock options. Then the Rams can give him a zero dollars contract for two years. Done deal.

Yeah, if all else fails, just do what the Patriots did. The league gave it's blessings to that shit.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I always think that argument of who has the leverage is overblown. The player has the talent and the team owns the purse strings. Yeah sometimes a player can have the team over a barrel but more often than not, it seems that there are other things at play that determine how negotiations go. The market for the player, the team’s power at the position, and where a team can go within cap constraints pretty much dictate the offer.

Of course “cap constraints “ is always that thing shrouded in mystery. A lot of guys on here know way more about the cap than I do but even they often get blind sided by how it truly works.

Agree, leverage is definitely over used to me. Both sides will having varying degrees of it. The Rams are like where can you play where you get to play for an awesome team and organization that is as close to contending for a championship. Stafford is like there's no one better than me for this team to do just that lol. Stafford is going to play and wants to be paid. Nothing the Rams do will stop that but only determine where that may be. The Rams will simply decide how long Stafford fits into their plans and at what price point. It's anyone's guess how it goes down because all of this needs to be done in conjunction with what's best for the Rams short and long term plus how much money they set aside for future contracts for our young ascending players.

 

[sloramfan]

just pay the guy...

we are shit without him..

go rams

slo

 

[Memphis Ram]

They'll probably get a deal done, but I can see the fiscal dilemma in the negotiations. Seems like it's kind of an all in type of deal.

Stafford already has a big dead cap charge. If they extend him they are going to possibly push an even larger dead cap charge into the future that may hit right about the same time they are attempting to re-sign some of their young talent.

 

[Ramlife]

Load up! Trade for Tyreek Hill and combine him with a healthy Puka and Jordan Whittington. Extend Kyren and let Corum jump in there and contribute, Tyreek can be similar to a Ramsey signing in an offensive way. Could you imagine Tyreek with this squad? Although i personally think hes a dick he’s pretty damn good at football and ads an element thats different than anything this team has had. Balls out! Lets hear it!