Didn’t see this coming!

[payote75]

suddenly the 1-3 lions are a team we should aspire to be

This thread is just like it always is... the minute this team hits any adversity the same dumb shit pops up.

We all add our two cents we all get frustrated we all play gm we are lunatic fans. I do sometimes question the logic and or fandom from some. Forgetting the fact that yes we need to improve yes we need to get healthy but how some people just waiting to post Goff stats as if that makes anyone second guess the trade or jealous. I don't even know why it's relevant. I'm truly happy for him but what's the point? So if he throws for 60tds this year are people supposed to regret the trade. Even if he won a Superbowl this year slim chance as it is am I regretting the trade is anyone we already have one and hopefully can get another but it's like questionable again like we partake in the Superbowl festivities but then when adversity strikes we were also waiting to be right and rub it in our own fans faces. Sad part is it's over the Rams were right they got what they wanted from the trade now it's all gravy.

 

[Loyal]

Yeah, Boom was a 3rd round pick, Allen a 4th & Havenstein a 2nd with Edwards being a 5th round selection. I concur time for more draft capital to be added to this group and upper tier draft capital at that.

Yes. I want to see some 2nd and 3rd round picks for the Oline. You can still snag all the UDFA's that you want, but it's time to quite basing your Oline on them and low round picks.

 

[Allen2McVay]

No and I said why. You're not gonna have a run game with Stafford at qb. It's not gonna happen.

You did?

In your first response to me you simply posted ... 'A Stafford led offense will never have a top running game.'

In your second response to me (above), you kind of just said the exact same thing.

Those are just statements and opinions. They're not explanations for why you believe them to be true.

 

[Loyal]

You did?

In your first response to me you simply posted ... 'A Stafford led offense will never have a top running game.'

In your second response to me (above), you kind of just said the exact same thing.

Those are just statements and opinions. They're not explanations for why you believe them to be true.

With a healthy Todd Gurley, this offense would be unstoppable.

 

[oldnotdead]

Every year the Rams get a flat tire. Remember last year's winless November? This year the problem is identifiable. Injuries have derailed things. But after the bye some of those injured will return. Teams like the Niners will see a different team when these guys get back. Better early than late.

No reason to panic.

 

[Giles]

You did?

In your first response to me you simply posted ... 'A Stafford led offense will never have a top running game.'

In your second response to me (above), you kind of just said the exact same thing.

Those are just statements and opinions. They're not explanations for why you believe them to be true.

Not a opinion it's a fact at this point we have 13 years of evidence. Rams were a top 10 rushing attack b4 Stafford he came in and we saw what happened with basically the same personal. Stafford isn't as comfortable under center than he is in the gun. He's always been this way and mcvay has designed his offense to accommodate Stafford in that regard. Plus he play action fake is just bad. Is that a better explanation for you?

 

[payote75]

Has Wagner really been that bad? The guy had 10 tackles after all, anybody want Reeder back? It’s not like the mighty 9er running game was gashing the defense repeatedly. Wags was blitzing when Deebo put the whole team on a highlight reel. Even with the breakdowns the defense gave up 17 pts which ain’t bad.

No I don't know what the Wagner bashing is all about. He has been what I expected if I had to not pick I'd pick more on Jones but they both have been fine and safeties meh corners hurt and no and I mean NO pass rush! So Wagner not an issue what so ever

 

[Giles]

With a healthy Todd Gurley, this offense would be unstoppable.

You could say that about any competent offense/playcaller. Gurley was a generational talent, to bad he had knee issues. But hey if that didn't happen we probably wouldn't have Stafford.

 

[Loyal]

You could say that about any competent offense/playcaller. Gurley was a generational talent, to bad he had knee issues. But hey if that didn't happen we probably wouldn't have Stafford.

I was responding to the blanket statement about McVay never having a top running game, which is a lie. He had one with Todd, and could have one to a lesser degree with another RB.

 

[Giles]

I was responding to the blanket statement about McVay never having a top running game, which is a lie. He had one with Todd, and could have one to a lesser degree with another RB.

Everyone knows mcvay can generate a top running game as he done so multiple times already. Now can he do that with Stafford at qb? I don't think so because it's hard to do out of the gun unless it's a rpo scheme which Stafford obviously can't do.

 

[blackbart]

Is everyone else as surprised as me?

Everything I read and saw left me thinking we would dominate but the wheels starting falling off almost the second the season was about to start

I understand why members are already picking through the bones of this season, but wonder whether what looked like happening early will bloom late? If so, will we be a force heading into the playoffs? Similar, perhaps, to the Bucks the year they won

Until then, perhaps, we might need to keep the faith despite the frustration

Just my take. What do you think?

You can’t predict injuries.

 

[Loyal]

Everyone knows mcvay can generate a top running game as he done so multiple times already. Now can he do that with Stafford at qb? I don't think so because it's hard to do out of the gun unless it's a rpo scheme which Stafford obviously can't do.

Stafford also snaps the ball from under center. He alternates between that and shot gun. So yes, he could have a running game.

 

[Giles]

Stafford also snaps the ball from under center. He alternates between that and shot gun. So yes, he could have a running game.

That's just a opinion. 13 years and he seems to never have one with 2 different organizations. Only 1 common denominator here but we'll agree to disagree.

 

[kurtfaulk]

He's getting hammered and he';s not 22 years old anymore. Remember what Bulgerized was like? I hope it doesn't get that bad...

this is no time for excuses.

goff wasn't afforded any when blythe was whiffing every pass play. he was shipped out unceremoniously and stafford was brought in.

the rams win the superbowl the same year due to stafford tearing up defenses in the playoffs when it mattered most, the 4th qtr.

now that they've paid him and he's getting $40m per year you want to offer up excuses? he's being paid to make plays when they're there. i'm sure he didn't come off the field after missing a wide open higbee and not seeing a wide open henderson while almost throwing an interception and say the oline stuffed up.

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[Loyal]

this is no time for excuses.

goff wasn't afforded any when blythe was whiffing every pass play. he was shipped out unceremoniously and stafford was brought in.

the rams win the superbowl the same year due to stafford tearing up defenses in the playoffs when it mattered most, the 4th qtr.

now that they've paid him and he's getting $40m per year you want to offer up excuses? he's being paid to make plays when they're there. i'm sure he didn't come off the field after missing a wide open higbee and not seeing a wide open henderson while almost throwing an interception and say the oline stuffed up.

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There was more to it with Goff than just Blythe at Center. This whole Oline is getting bum rushed by opposing Dlines. Besides, the very fact that Stafford had that run in the playoffs and Super Bowl, gets him a pass by me. He won the big one, which Goff never could....

 

[kurtfaulk]

There was more to it with Goff than just Blythe at Center. This whole Oline is getting bum rushed by opposing Dlines. Besides, the very fact that Stafford had that run in the playoffs and Super Bowl, gets him a pass by me. He won the big one, which Goff never could....

Nobody is calling for his head. That would be stupid beyond belief.

Just for him to get his head out of his arse.

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[LARAMSinFeb.]

I was responding to the blanket statement about McVay never having a top running game, which is a lie. He had one with Todd, and could have one to a lesser degree with another RB.

We also had Saffold and Whit at their peaks at that time, and a healthy John Sullivan.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Is Tim Barnes on speed-dial?

 

[Giles]

this is no time for excuses.

goff wasn't afforded any when blythe was whiffing every pass play. he was shipped out unceremoniously and stafford was brought in.

the rams win the superbowl the same year due to stafford tearing up defenses in the playoffs when it mattered most, the 4th qtr.

now that they've paid him and he's getting $40m per year you want to offer up excuses? he's being paid to make plays when they're there. i'm sure he didn't come off the field after missing a wide open higbee and not seeing a wide open henderson while almost throwing an interception and say the oline stuffed up.

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Exactly. Stafford doesn't need excuses he needs to play better and hit the open man.

 

[Tano]

There was more to it with Goff than just Blythe at Center. This whole Oline is getting bum rushed by opposing Dlines. Besides, the very fact that Stafford had that run in the playoffs and Super Bowl, gets him a pass by me. He won the big one, which Goff never could....

Well I could add that Stafford had Kupp in the big one and Goff didn't which I firmly believe if he did have Kupp, we would have won that game.

But let's not get in a Goff vs Stafford discussion because it was time for Goff to go. McVay had lost confidence in Goff and Goff's play suffered because of it. Also didn't help that Blythe was a turnstyle at center.