Fuck Belichick potentially picking ANOTHER weak ass division to own for 6 easy wins a year… it’s damned smart and I dislike everything about it
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Fuck Belichick potentially picking ANOTHER weak ass division to own for 6 easy wins a year… it’s damned smart and I dislike everything about it
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Bowles before that wildcard game:
I have always said Jalen Hurts is overrated.
If he has 5 seconds in the pocket, he can usually find a wide open receiver or run for yards.
Difference with Goff is that if you give him 3 or 4 seconds, he will bullseye the ball to a receiver even if he isn't that open.
But man Goff sucks with inside pressure.
Elmgrovegnome
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One good year and people were calling him a top five QB.
It reminded me of Ron Jaworski claiming that Collin Kaepernick is a future hall of fame quarterback after one good season.
WestCoastRam
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I give Hurts a bit of a pass (though his leadership sure seems to suck), that offense is ass. It's high school but they've been able to get away with it with an efficient run game and one on one's to Brown. You can run it if you have Steichen calling it but without a master play caller, those plays are too vanilla.
Also, you have to have another answer to the blitz besides throwing Go balls. You just have to.
I don't know about that; and I have proof!
When I was young, long before any type of high-tech console game, there was a very low-tech-version.
I would play with friends, and they loved to run a zero blitz (called a Max Blitz in the game).
I would counter with a Go Route (called The Bomb in the game).
I scored a ton of touchdowns, and I always won.
So that's pretty conclusive evidence right there. By-the-way, I was ten or eleven.
Elmgrovegnome
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Maybe part of the problem is that Hurts needs a Steichen to succeed. The eagles entire offense looked bad vs Tampa Bay. But what percentage of that is on Hurts. He practices with these players. Is he a leader? Would Stafford have his offense looking that inept? He's supposedly a better QB than Stafford according to all of the preseason ratings. (which were laughable).
Yes. I think at least part of Hurts' issues is the scheme. His hots seem like they are mostly low percentage sideline throws. And I suppose that would be ok if he had real studs out there but he doesn't.
Sirianni is in over his head IMO. When he lost Steichen he got exposed. That's my current working theory at least.
Sirianni is in over his head IMO. When he lost Steichen he got exposed. That's my current working theory at least.
WestCoastRam
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This.Yes. I think at least part of Hurts' issues is the scheme. His hots seem like they are mostly low percentage sideline throws. And I suppose that would be ok if he had real studs out there but he doesn't.
Sirianni is in over his head IMO. When he lost Steichen he got exposed. That's my current working theory at least.
When the Eagles were 10-1 and arguably the best team in the league, they werent missing Steichen.
So what happened since? Well, in the last 7 games the Eagles gave up almost 31 ppg.
If I am looking to fix that team, I'm not even looking at the offense or giving it a second thought
So what happened since? Well, in the last 7 games the Eagles gave up almost 31 ppg.
If I am looking to fix that team, I'm not even looking at the offense or giving it a second thought
oldnotdead
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Question how good was Stafford under quick pressure? How many INT's did Stafford throw under pressure? Geez get over it....every QB dislikes quick pressure inside. When Goff had a decent OL in front of him the Rams went to the Super Bowl. Then the next year McVay dismantled the OL and Goff struggled much like Stafford did last year behind a shit OL. Only difference was even in 2019 Goff had a winning record, missing the playoffs because of Zuerlein missing a makeable FG.
All I'm saying is that both Goff and Stafford struggle behind a subpar OL as MOST QBs would. Go ahead look at the stats, compare Goff's last 3 years in LA and Matt's 3 years in LA. They both basically threw the same percentage of INTs but Goff has a reputation as a turnover machine. Oh BTW Stafford played fewer games due to injury.
Why do you think McVay did something for Matt he refused to do with Goff? McVay went to a possession oriented offense, to reduce the slow developing routes, something he refused to do with Goff even though common sense said he should. Instead he kept saying Goff had to play better. Huh, his boy Stafford is throwing the same percentage of INTs. McVay made an effort to improve the OL with Stafford something he refused to do with Goff. Instead in 2019 McVay dismantled the OL that got him to the SB and made Goff play behind a substandard OL while refusing him the time to get to the LOS and make changes. All the while publicly shaming Goff by saying "he most play better." All the while I was saying to my family McVay needs to get his head out of his ass. He allows Stafford time to read defenses. He intentionally prevented Goff from doing likewise.
Yeah so say he wasn't sabotaging Jared all you want, but you only need to look at how differently Sean has treated Matt vs Jared. I get it, Matt was his choice for QB and Jared is the QB he inherited. We have seen how good Jared can be if given an offense with less talent at WR BTW, if he's played to his strengths.
The reason I'm making this point is because in 2025 they will likely have a new young QB1. How will Sean treat him? Differently IMO because it will be his guy whereas Jared never was. He's already retooling the offense to be more QB friendly with faster developing routes. All good signs BTW. All I'm saying is that had he done that in 2019 Goff's LA legacy would have been different.
In reality, I think this improved McVay offense will be more sustainable over the long term and will result in a more consistent offense, as long as he doesn't forget and simply make himself one dimensional.
All I'm saying is that both Goff and Stafford struggle behind a subpar OL as MOST QBs would. Go ahead look at the stats, compare Goff's last 3 years in LA and Matt's 3 years in LA. They both basically threw the same percentage of INTs but Goff has a reputation as a turnover machine. Oh BTW Stafford played fewer games due to injury.
Why do you think McVay did something for Matt he refused to do with Goff? McVay went to a possession oriented offense, to reduce the slow developing routes, something he refused to do with Goff even though common sense said he should. Instead he kept saying Goff had to play better. Huh, his boy Stafford is throwing the same percentage of INTs. McVay made an effort to improve the OL with Stafford something he refused to do with Goff. Instead in 2019 McVay dismantled the OL that got him to the SB and made Goff play behind a substandard OL while refusing him the time to get to the LOS and make changes. All the while publicly shaming Goff by saying "he most play better." All the while I was saying to my family McVay needs to get his head out of his ass. He allows Stafford time to read defenses. He intentionally prevented Goff from doing likewise.
Yeah so say he wasn't sabotaging Jared all you want, but you only need to look at how differently Sean has treated Matt vs Jared. I get it, Matt was his choice for QB and Jared is the QB he inherited. We have seen how good Jared can be if given an offense with less talent at WR BTW, if he's played to his strengths.
The reason I'm making this point is because in 2025 they will likely have a new young QB1. How will Sean treat him? Differently IMO because it will be his guy whereas Jared never was. He's already retooling the offense to be more QB friendly with faster developing routes. All good signs BTW. All I'm saying is that had he done that in 2019 Goff's LA legacy would have been different.
In reality, I think this improved McVay offense will be more sustainable over the long term and will result in a more consistent offense, as long as he doesn't forget and simply make himself one dimensional.
IMO, I believe they will look to fix both sides of the ball. And Sirianni was prevousily an OC, so maybe he will get back into play calling. The defense was an epic fail for them especially in the secondary, if would not shock me to see them get rid of everyone involved on that side of the ball and start fresh next season.
BTW Everywhere Matt Patricia goes, things blow up.
2024 NFL coaching carousel predictions
The 2024 NFL free-agent head-coaching class is arguably the greatest ever and is so stacked that future Hall of Famers and former Coach of the Year winners might not land a job this offseason. With seven head-coaching jobs still up for grabs, here are our predictions as to who will fill each opening.
Atlanta Falcons: former Patriots HC Bill Belichick
Unless the Dallas Cowboys or Philadelphia Eagles decide to fire their head coaches, the Falcons seem like the most likely landing spot for Belichick, particularly since they've already interviewed him. Even though Belichick endured his worst season as a coach in 2023, he likely would've had more success with an offense like Atlanta's, and his defense was still strong (seventh in yards allowed). The six-time Super Bowl-winning head coach's defensive expertise could elevate Atlanta's unit, which was on the cusp of being great before DT Grady Jarrett's season-ending ACL tear (12th in points and sixth in yards allowed).
Carolina Panthers: Texans OC Bobby Slowik
It'll be fascinating to see who Carolina convinces to accept the NFL's least desirable coaching job, as it doesn't own a 2024 first-round pick and has the least talented roster in the league in addition to the worst owner. According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, Carolina is "intrigued" by the idea of hiring a first-time offensive-minded head coach to pair with current DC Ejiro Evero, and Slowik would fit the bill in this regard. Houston went from averaging the second-fewest yards and third-fewest points in 2022 to ranking 12th and 13th in those respective categories in its first season under Slowik.
Las Vegas Raiders: Antonio Pierce
Despite his limited experience, Pierce proved he's the right choice to lead the Raiders by leading the team to a 5-4 record after Josh McDaniels' mid-season firing. In that span, Las Vegas solidified itself as one of the NFL's top defensive units, allowing the fewest points (16) and 11th-fewest yards per game (324.9). If the on-field results aren't enough for owner Mark Davis to hire Pierce permanently, the risk of losing the locker room and key stars like edge-rusher Maxx Crosby should be enough to sway him.
Los Angeles Chargers: Michigan HC Jim Harbaugh
Perhaps the most polarizing candidate of this hiring cycle, many expect Harbaugh to jump back to the pros after delivering a national championship to Michigan and seeing QB J.J. McCarthy declare for the 2024 NFL Draft. In the past, Harbaugh has considered returning to the NFL, but no interested team was equipped with a quarterback as talented as Justin Herbert, who would probably give him his best chance at winning a Super Bowl. Harbaugh interviewed with the Chargers on Monday, and Fowler later noted there's "mutual interest" between the sides, so it seems all signs are pointing to him landing in Los Angeles.
Seattle Seahawks: Cowboys DC Dan Quinn
Quinn, Seattle's defensive coordinator during the 2013 and 2014 seasons, emerged as a candidate for its head-coaching vacancy shortly after Pete Carroll's firing, signaling that a reunion is more likely than not. Although Quinn's failed stint as Atlanta's head coach and the Cowboys defense's disastrous showing in Sunday's wild-card loss might raise concerns about his ability to succeed in Seattle, the 53-year-old's work in the 2023 regular season shouldn't be overlooked. Dallas' defense ranked fifth in both scoring and yardage this season, as well as eighth in interceptions (17).
Tennessee Titans: Ravens DC Mike Macdonald
The disconnect between team brass and Mike Vrabel was one of the reasons for the former Coach of the Year's termination, which suggests Tennessee will hire a candidate who wouldn't want as much control. Typically, that means bringing on someone lacking head-coaching experience, and while it has become the trend around the NFL to hire offensive-minded coaches, Macdonald would still be an excellent addition. Tennessee's defense has shown glimpses of promise, and Macdonald could raise its ceiling, especially considering Baltimore's defensive unit has ranked inside the top three in scoring and top 10 in yardage over the last two seasons.
Washington Commodes: Lions OC Ben Johnson
As per The Athletic's Dianna Russini, Johnson is Washington's "top choice" among the available candidates, and it's hard to imagine he'd pass up on such a great opportunity. Johnson has helped transform the Lions offense into a top-five unit and contributed to QB Jared Goff's resurgence. With an array of weapons like WRs Terry McLaurin and Jahan Dotson, along with the chance to draft a top quarterback in the 2024 NFL Draft, Washington could quickly become an elite offense under Johnson.
2024 NFL coaching carousel predictions
The 2024 NFL free-agent head-coaching class is arguably the greatest ever and is so stacked that future Hall of Famers and former Coach of the Year winners might not land a job this offseason.
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WestCoastRam
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Great point, the offense certainly has problems but it's like the're playing with keystone cops in the backend. They legit have to replace their entire secondary and get some LBs.
WestCoastRam
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Can't say I'm shocked by this but bummed if Morris leaves. Evero is one of the top bright young minds on D in the NFL, would have loved for him to come back here. I figured Tepper wasn't letting peeps out of their contracts to let new coach decide but OF COURSE he's gonna grab an offensive guy and dictate the rest of the staff. (He sorta did that last year too).
Agree completely on Evero.
Thinking that Morris might be a highly regarded alternative option with several teams but that could mean he does not get an offer. if Morris does get a HC job, keep the name Jim Leonhard in mind. The timing was poor when McVay went with Staley in 2020 but it might be ideal timing should McVay need to hire a DC in the coming weeks.
I get a feeling that unless the Cowboys fire McCarthy and open another Head Coaching job, again Morris might not get an opportunity. However, if Dallas fires McCarthy then turns to Belichick, that could open Atlanta for Raheem.
