They have the most important piece in Maye.
Black Monday...And Away We Go.
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And cap space and prime draft capital.
Okay, but one of his other potential options has Caleb Williams, Rome Odunze, D.J. Moore, and Cole Kmet, plus the #10, #39, and #41 picks.
To everybody obviously. But as we all know just being a good coordinator doesn't do that it takes more.
And that's why I have no issue with a great coordinator being picky about the situation he inherits. You want to set yourself up to win.
Elmgrovegnome
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DEI hire? Strange take. Mayo was the handpicked successor to Belichick years before Bill left.
I don't like the firing. Mayo deserved a better shot at building the team. Maybe he ended up having some disagreements with Kraft, that led to this. Vrabel is not much of an upgrade. He didn't do any better once his Titans roster went to shit. And he had a hand in that. Its hard to win with a bad roster.
Hand picked doesn't mean anything irt whether he was ready to do the job. Also it is common for identified successors to fall on their faces when they're not ready. Look at Gibbs. He had his boy Petitbone I think his name was, iirc he didn't last a full season either.
Mayo needs a long stretch of seasoning. He wasn't even remotely ready for that org and it's why he got shitcanned.
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I don't know how you can tell that after one season and a lousy assemblage of players.
If you are right, then it basically says Kraft is a moron for hiring Mayo in the first place.
a recent poll claims that 43% of fans blame Kraft for the bad season the Pats had, 40% said it was Mayos fault, and another 18 percent blame lack of talent
I'm thinking Kraft realized the mistake he made in hiring Mayo, leading to the early firing
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Solid predictions here, I believe they all could come to fruition. Flores might be the outlier with everything going on, however, I believe he would be good for the Jets although I could see Bucs OC Liam Coen landing there too.
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Eh....mebbe but it was rather obvious to me that Vrabel's problems started when Tannehill regressed back to his usual ineffectual self.
Once that happened there really wasn't much left for Vrabel (or anyone else) to do.
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Vrabel had a decent OC with Arthur Smith and then when he left the replacement was not that good. That is why pairing him with McDaniels is key and everything in New England sets up well. Ownership willing to win, young QB and cap room so unless another team blows Vrabel away I believe they fired Mayo to hire Vrabel although they will want to interview other Coaches because they did not do that in their search with Mayo.
I agree with Cowherd's take.
'The Patriots needed a culture change. Belichick was a surly, my-way-or-the-highway coach. That worked as long as Brady had his back and BB had all those Lombardi's. It was reported Mayo took the same approach and was "BILL II" to many of the players.....with no experience to draw on. Certainly not the Lombardi's. The funny thing is Vrabel won't be a culture change, though he has a wealth of experience and Maye IS NOT Tannehill. Reportedly, the OC could be McDaniels.'
I think the wiser move would be Ben Johnson. And he's interviewing with both New England and Chicago this week. ****Not the Jets****. But I get the feeling Kraft may want to go with experience (Vrabel) over offensive savant. It's definitely going to be interesting to see.
Who are the leading candidates for head coaching positions?
Offense: Johnson, Coen, Kingsbury and dark horse McCarthy (should he leave the Cowboys). Sarkesian has been mentioned (by some) for the Dallas job but the amusing thing I heard was "isn't the Texas job better?"
Defense: Vrabel, Glenn, Flores. Is there a dark horse? Like Minter? Or Pete Carroll (god no!!!)
'The Patriots needed a culture change. Belichick was a surly, my-way-or-the-highway coach. That worked as long as Brady had his back and BB had all those Lombardi's. It was reported Mayo took the same approach and was "BILL II" to many of the players.....with no experience to draw on. Certainly not the Lombardi's. The funny thing is Vrabel won't be a culture change, though he has a wealth of experience and Maye IS NOT Tannehill. Reportedly, the OC could be McDaniels.'
I think the wiser move would be Ben Johnson. And he's interviewing with both New England and Chicago this week. ****Not the Jets****. But I get the feeling Kraft may want to go with experience (Vrabel) over offensive savant. It's definitely going to be interesting to see.
Who are the leading candidates for head coaching positions?
Offense: Johnson, Coen, Kingsbury and dark horse McCarthy (should he leave the Cowboys). Sarkesian has been mentioned (by some) for the Dallas job but the amusing thing I heard was "isn't the Texas job better?"
Defense: Vrabel, Glenn, Flores. Is there a dark horse? Like Minter? Or Pete Carroll (god no!!!)