ZigZagRam
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and still have posted consecutive losing seasons. sadly, this year won't be different.
Your personal purpose on this forum is very transparent.
and still have posted consecutive losing seasons. sadly, this year won't be different.
You can even see them through your cloud of smoke ZigZagYour personal purpose on this forum is very transparent.
You don't know that.
Believe it or not it's possible to be an informative columnist with an opinion without coming across like a jilted lover in 90% of your pieces.
Is it OK to rise up and defend millionaire players? I just want to know how much money a person is allowed to make before people can argue on their side.
I'd bet Fisher and the players had more to do with the riot outreach than Stan did. Let's not make the man a saint simply because he owns our favorite team, the same as not convicting him for his common sense silence on St. Louis.
Also, Bernie is in the news/entertainment business. If he wrote every piece like we would want him to, he'd be putting people to sleep on one hand and being accused of being a raging homer on the other. He writes that way because it's a BUSINESS the same as Stan's silence is business. Hate for one is just as silly as hate for the other.
Also, we don't need to rise up in defense of a billionaire. Play a little hard to get at least, fan base. Sheesh.
So he get's no credit for hiring people with an organizational ethos like that.
So money to you removes a persons right to being treated like a human,gotcha, sounds like jealousy to me
Possible, not probable, or do you not watch any sports shows?
Who said anything about players? Isn't this about the owner? I didn't say a single thing about any player. That was a Bernie-worthy strawman there.
It isn't about defending any person due to money, as the owner and the tax base are in a potential showdown. His results will speak for themselves, he doesn't need help. You have really been reading Bernie.
That's like saying the only way to get music updates is from MTV. I stay away from the trash, but there are plenty of good shows to listen to, and plenty of good, informative columnists to peruse. I recommend branching out if all you're watching is the Steven A. Smith's of the sports world.
You pointed out Kroenke's bankroll as a reason that he doesn't need to be defended. I'm just not sure why that's relevant when discussing the issue.
Your words meant that and YOU KNOW IT,whether he gets defended apparently hinges on his personal wealth ,or maybe you'd like to attempt a clarification instead of weak denialDidn't say any of that, as you well know Thordaddy.
So if it isn't mind reading I guess Stan told you that? or he's wearing a sign that says that? .If the man didn't say it,it's mind reading.
Like I said the guy's going to great lengths to be a citizen of the community and all he gets from people with a negative outlook is the typical class envy where those without money think the only thing that motivates a person with lots is acquiring it. Stan's commitment to Mizzou the state and to Missouri sports has been demonstrated sufficiently to me by his work getting that team here in the first place .
Peter King can be quoted as saying that Stan wants the Rams to mean to this city something comparable to what the Cardinals do,but when the lead columnist on the cities only major newspaper keeps painting him with a jealous brush and makes a point of even accusing the owner of getting schadenfreude from keeping his mouth shut during negotiating for facilities to make GOOD ON PROMISES MADE TO HIM,I won't let that go.
He got out of the lease because of what is called constructive eviction, his landlord didn't live up to the agreement,you gonna keep renting from someone who won't fix the roof if it leaks?
If it bleeds it leads with Bernie and if there isn't any blood ,he brings up the past blood, but not to worry though Bernie doesn't like me either so it's mutual admiration thing, we've emailed back and forth several times and he's an even bigger arsehole in private than he is in print,no mind reading about that complete with name calling.
Your words meant that and YOU KNOW IT,whether he gets defended apparently hinges on his personal wealth ,or maybe you'd like to attempt a clarification instead of weak denial
I wonder if this is a calculated step by the NFL to get some of these cities to jump. They've held it over everyone's head for so long it was starting to become an idle threat. Now with St. Louis set to expire, it's the perfect time to force the hand of as many potential teams as possible. No one is going to move to LA without somewhere to play.
I understnad it isn't easy, I lived in CLE when the whole Browns thing went down, it was awful and I'm not a Browns fan.
Anyway it's more how Bernie turns a phrase. He didn't say it is difficult for fans to deal with the silence he said "On top of that, the Missouri native Kroenke has seemingly enjoyed tormenting his own fan base with his cold, calculated aloofness."
It's a crappy thing to say and isn't all that accurate to boot.
besides, which kroenke owned team has ever won anything of significance? that's the real problem for st. Louis AND L.A. Rams fans.
I, for one, hope the STL taxpayers don't give in. We have another issues to deal with.
I, for one, hope the STL taxpayers don't give in. We have another issues to deal with.
and still have posted consecutive losing seasons. sadly, this year won't be different.