Arch Manning and Matt Stafford: Rams sources talk succession plan with Charles Robinson (Staff's back makes an appearance)

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LOS ANGELES — Day 2 of an unanticipated Matthew Stafford watch brought a slight perception regression for the Los Angeles Rams. The sun was shining at Loyola Marymount University and practice was running at a brisk pace. But in a twist, Stafford was neither working to the side Wednesday, nor surveying drills and aiding the other quarterbacks who were taking all of the snaps.

In fact, he wasn’t on-hand at all.

To the alarmists, who continue to be haunted by the elbow soreness that scuttled Stafford’s season in 2022 and rolled over the Rams with it, it’s hard not to wonder if his unforeseen back soreness is being underplayed by the franchise. Or if it might be something that’s getting worse, with Stafford’s absence being a flag that speaks more authoritatively than the franchise’s brain trust’s assurance that this is all OK … all part of the plan … all just a measurement in the larger vantage.

“He was working with the training staff,” Rams head coach Sean McVay said Wednesday. “To be out here on his feet — could he be out here? Yeah, but what's more beneficial for him? I probably should have been a little bit more specific as to [what] working on the side [meant] — maybe working in the tents, things like that. So that was according to plan. I kind of misspoke [Tuesday] as far as ‘working out onto the side.’”

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Speaking to Yahoo Sports, McVay reiterated that there has always been a plan in place to work Stafford in slowly in 2025, keeping an eye on later in the season rather than overburdening him with early work that isn’t necessary at this point in his career.

“This isn’t anything new,” McVay told Yahoo Sports. “It’s just one of those things that at the early parts of camp we were going to monitor and restrict his workload anyway — really for the mental and physical aspects of it. That made it easy to say, ‘F*** that, the first five-day acclimation period we’re not even in pads, it’s not even real football right now.’ It’s the right thing to do for him, No. 1, and for our team.”

Contrary to any anxieties, it doesn’t resonate as damage control by McVay. Instead, it screams an element of management by the Rams' brass, trying to deal with back soreness from Stafford that wasn’t anticipated. A development that, as one team source told Yahoo Sports, happened when Stafford was traveling on vacation in recent weeks with his family prior to the opening of camp. The kind of thing that can develop when you have a 37-year-old quarterback who has a history of health issues, including concerns with his back.

Realistically, everyone believes — including inside the Rams — that Stafford is deeply into the sunset portion of his NFL career. So much so, there’s a feeling inside the franchise that if the Rams win the Super Bowl this season, Stafford is going to use that opportunity to retire, a la John Elway with the Denver Broncos in 1999, after he’d secured the second Super Bowl title that would ensure he was a first-ballot Hall of Famer. According to a team source, even Stafford himself has joked with staff that the Rams' acquisition of a second first-round pick in the 2026 NFL Draft from the Atlanta Falcons is a sign that L.A.'s brass expects him to hang it up after the 2025 season.

But does that mean the Rams are also exploring Stafford replacements?

The Rams have already targeted Arch Manning as the No. 1 QB in next year's draft class ... if Manning chooses to leave Texas. (Getty Images)

The Rams have already targeted Arch Manning as the No. 1 QB in next year's draft class ... if Manning chooses to leave Texas. (Getty Images)
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It’s a complicated question. First and foremost, Stafford is still operating inside a Super Bowl window open for the Rams. The leadership both in the coaching staff and front office is steadfast in his ability — if fully healthy — to lead Los Angeles to one more title in the next two seasons. That said, it’s clear there is a fixed vantage on the horizon, with Rams decision-makers knowing the next offseason is where they have to start moving toward a succession plan. Most likely toward a very young player who can grow with McVay and spend an elongated period attached at the hip.

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One prominent name that surfaces inside this ideology is Texas quarterback Arch Manning, who some believe will end up being the No. 1 pick in the 2026 NFL Draft following his 2025 season — if he leaves college before his senior year in 2026. Manning is tied to the Rams for a very obvious reason: Les Snead’s stepson Taint is known to be a close friend of Arch Manning, and Snead himself chatted up Arch Manning at the Texas pro day prior to the 2025 NFL Draft.


But it goes deeper than that. Speaking to a handful of Rams personnel sources, Manning is — at this moment — considered by the staff to be the lone Tier 1 quarterback in the 2026 NFL Draft, regardless of who else could enter into the selection process. Why? The Rams covet Manning’s prototypical size (6-foot-4, 219 pounds) and throwing acumen … but also believe his high level of athleticism sets him apart from from every other college quarterback. So much so, the comparison for Manning inside the franchise is that his ceiling after the 2025 college season could be a Josh Allen-type of prospect who is actually stronger physically and a faster athlete than Allen was when he entered the draft in 2018.

That’s some significant praise from a team that’s going to need a quarterback sooner than later. Could it change with Manning’s performance in the 2025 college football season? Certainly. But his No. 1 perch atop the collegiate ranks of quarterbacks is absolutely where the Rams evaluate him right now. And they may have the ammunition to make a run at Manning in the 2026 class if he declares, thanks to a boatload of draft picks that include two first-rounders next spring.

Rams head coach Sean McVay has begun training camp without Matthew Stafford on the field.  (Robert Gauthier/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images)

Rams head coach Sean McVay has begun training camp without Matthew Stafford on the field. (Robert Gauthier/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images)
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Interestingly, a high-ranking Rams source told Yahoo Sports that even if Stafford returns to the team in 2026, the Rams would — at this point — still lean into drafting Manning (if he were gettable) and then put him on ice for his rookie season, similar to the Kansas City Chiefs keeping Patrick Mahomes on the bench behind Alex Smith in 2017. The source added that the franchise believes Stafford would be open to such a scenario, knowing that 2026 will almost certainly be his last season in the NFL, regardless of what transpires during the course of the regular season and playoffs.

For now, there are more moving parts than a Swiss watch when it comes to the Rams’ succession plan. But the reality remains that they’re thinking about it in a very real and tangible way. Maybe moreso than ever, with Stafford once again sidelined with health issues.
 
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Do we really need another thread with the same info being talked about elsewhere?
Nothing new here, if Manning goes in the draft, he's the #1 overall pick. The Rams, like most teams, would love to move up for him.
 

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I dont know that Arch comes out in 2026. More importantly though, I find it hard to believe any GM that values his job, wants to be the one that trades away Arch Manning.
 

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I dont know that Arch comes out in 2026. More importantly though, I find it hard to believe any GM that values his job, wants to be the one that trades away Arch Manning.
It might not be possible for him to live up to the hype and at this point that’s all it is. I was listening to a show that had Manning 2nd or 3rd qb prospect. I get that he’s got all the measurables and the pedigree but there are guys who’ve been better on the field.
This thing has so many scenarios it’s crazy. What if he doesn’t come out? Hopefully the Rams s aren’t going to be picking as high as that falcons pick anytime soon so do they pick the top qb on their board? And do they have enough ammo to get past the Browns,who also have 2 picks, and the Saints who have history with the Mannng name. And why would Les be showing his hand now before he’s even sat down at the table? That would be the ultimate baller move if Les was after someone else.
 

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I dont know that Arch comes out in 2026. More importantly though, I find it hard to believe any GM that values his job, wants to be the one that trades away Arch Manning.
Unless the GM has to because like his Uncle Eli Arch picks his destination.
 

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I keep hearing that Arch isn't coming out. The Mannings aren't stupid. If the Rams and McVay are in a position to get him he is absolutely coming out. The alternative of another year in college and ending up in fucking Cleveland isn't something they'd entertain.
 

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It is not easy to predict how college QBs will do in the NFL. Remember when Trevor Lawrence was a generational talent? He's a good QB but that's about it. Obviously, being in Jacksonville might have something to do with it - they aren't exactly an A-level franchise. Or remember Goff and Wentz? We took Goff 1st overall. Great QB, a decade plus starter, but not elite. Wentz didn't even stick in the league. So who knows how Archie Manning will develop.

The buzz is we would trade two 1st rounders to move up for a QB. Our own + the Falcons 1st rounder we acquired. I'd rather use that as the basis for a package to acquire a proven NFL QB is one is available. Maybe Burrow if we get lucky could shake loose? It might not be an option. Proven top tier NFL QBs rarely if ever hit the market. But 2 1sts was the bulk of the Stafford trade. We have the starting point of a competitive package to land a proven talent. I don't think we would have to supplement it with too much more. particularly if the Falcons pick is high - they seem like a real crapshoot right now, I could see them flaming out as easily as putting it together this year.
 

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There is zero reason - zero - to think Manning comes out after this season.

He barely played his first two years - and could have transferred anywhere, literally anywhere in the country - why would he sit on the bench to just play one season when he can also likely make more as a senior in college than his first year in the NFL.
 

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I keep hearing that Arch isn't coming out. The Mannings aren't stupid. If the Rams and McVay are in a position to get him he is absolutely coming out. The alternative of another year in college and ending up in fucking Cleveland isn't something they'd entertain.


Arch is clearly different IMO. In the transfer portal and NIL era, Mr. I won't play for the Chargers would not have sat on the bench for two years when he could have gone anywhere he wanted to
 

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1. This shyte is too early to talk about without wild ass guessing, but this never stopped us before!
2. Arch is a top college prospect who is getting paid as a college kid and his family values education. He doesn't NEED to come out.
3. McSnead are liars before draft day. I trust almost nothing they say until after the pick is made.
4. McVay is a great coach, but seems to like veterans more than rookies. He and Snead make unorthodox moves to get what they want. They could make a massive trade for a vet QB that we aren't even considering right now.
 

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I keep hearing that Arch isn't coming out. The Mannings aren't stupid. If the Rams and McVay are in a position to get him he is absolutely coming out. The alternative of another year in college and ending up in fucking Cleveland isn't something they'd entertain.
Agreed, Gentlemen, if the Texas Longhorns win the National Title led by Arch Manning and BTW they are one of the favorites plus the Rams willing to make a deal for Arch to choose his destination, then he will come out. My only concern is that IMO the New Orleans Saints are going to be the worse team in football this year and that is where Arch is from. Hopefully his grandfather will steer him away from that organization.
 

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I have my share of fantasies ... Most relate to the Boobie and Booty threads; and, similar cultural sites.

Also have a couple Rams-related dreams ... and one involves Joe Burrow
... Joe and I are both fully clothed so get your mind-out-of-the gutter @Loyal.

In this dream, the Bengals disappoint again in 2025; and, I think that's realistic because their Defense may be poor again, and their O-Line and running game merely average. Burrow, Chase and Higgins could put-up huge numbers but it won't translate to wins and a playoff spot.

Maybe Zac Taylor is let go after three straight non-playoff seasons. Maybe the new-HC is a defensive guy.

Burrow's frustrations grow.

Another disappointing season in 2026 would make no playoff appearance in Four straight seasons, and Burrow will be 31-years old in 2027. At that point, he may aggressively push to get out of Cincinnati; and
the Bengals will not want to move him to another AFC team.

I like for my fantasies and dreams to have some ... Very Small Component of being Realistically Possible ...
OK, maybe not the Boobie and Booty fantasies. I let my imagination run-wild there.

It's very rare an elite-QB becomes available but Burrow may be on that road.
Don't envision it for a couple more seasons ... BUT ...
 

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I can guarantee the Manning family would love to see Arch in horns under McVay. But I don't know he will come out after one year. Depends. If he plays like a Heisman type QB then there is nothing left to prove. But if he feels he needs more time he'll stay in college.

One thing I know, its always the sky is falling this time of year when it comes to Stafford's health. Then comes the season and there he is playing just about every game. May or may not miss a game or two at most. I'm not worried. They're just erring on the caution side.
 

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I can guarantee the Manning family would love to see Arch in horns under McVay. But I don't know he will come out after one year. Depends. If he plays like a Heisman type QB then there is nothing left to prove. But if he feels he needs more time he'll stay in college.

One thing I know, its always the sky is falling this time of year when it comes to Stafford's health. Then comes the season and there he is playing just about every game. May or may not miss a game or two at most. I'm not worried. They're just erring on the caution side.
Keep in mind Arch will be 22 by next years draft. It’s not like he will be a green 20 year old coming out early. My guess is “he and his family” gonna want to pick which team(s) “he and his family” will play for.