Alaric Arrested
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The NFL will wait because let’s say they do issue a suspension and things break bad and the common take is that however it played out the NFL should have known what the *thing* is that makes it all break bad and they’ll be blamed for another insufficient suspension. Especially with the Super Bowl in LA and the Rams being such high profile favorites to win it all, the more the NFL addresses this, the worse it is for them.
As it stands, they can say they’re waiting on the outcome of legal proceedings (technically true) and if nothing happens, they don’t have to do anything and won’t suffer any blowback. There’s no one out there right now criticizing the NFL over this and they’ve got bigger fish to fry with Pearce and the Detroit CB.
So you’re going to compare these cases and conclude that they’re similar? As far as Zeke goes, this was also in that same article you quoted.
The NFL identified three incidents that caused injuries to the woman's face, neck, shoulders, arms, hands, wrists, hips and knees over the span of five days and cited photographic evidence of the injuries.
That is three different incidents and though the DA decided they didn’t have enough evidence to prosecute, there was quite a lot there and that’s not even including the fight where he broke a dude’s face.
And Pearce? I’m not even going down that path with you.
As I said, I’m not saying Goodhell won’t pull a Goodhell but the cases are not remotely similar and Zeke’s camp even fought that suspension.
As before, I’ll wait and see what happens and figure the Rams are on top of it as much as they can be.
You would certainly know better than me. Do you know if this would be one where it would not be required? Or does it just depend on too many variables?
Thanks for chiming in on this man. Good to have people who actually know stuff on here. Cheers.
Years ago NJ had something similar called PTI.....Pre trial intervention.....which was supposed to allow first offenders to avoid jail time. You had to apply for PTI and be accepted on a case by case process. That was for those who pled guilty. If you didn't plead guilty, fought the charges but were found guilty, you weren't eligible. IIRC.
I hate the idea of the law not bringing charges and the NFL deciding to punish the player. It's not like he murdered somebody. Or robbed somebody. Or killed somebody in a speeding accident. DV is such a double edged sword. On one hand, it's imperative to protect women from abusers. On the other hand, that can allow a shady woman to falsely accuse. How hard is it for a women to scratch herself and bleed? Or bang her cheekbone on a door?
In this case, she didn't want a restraining order. She didn't want to press charges. Why the fuck should the NFL behave as if they know better or are superior to the law? Don't they have enough actual offenders to deal with?
I'm comparing them only in that they caused the player to go into a diversion program due to domestic violence and this line "Because domestic violence and conduct-related incidents are handled independently by the NFL, entering a diversion program generally satisfies the criteria needed to enact the personal conduct policy."
Will the punishments be similar? Doubt it... I'm sure Pearce gets at least a year suspension if not worse. Elliott, sure it seems worse with what we know. But DV is DV and like I said if what Foolio said is correct that the NFL always suspends once a diversion program is entered into then it seems expected at this point. Only question will be for how long and when.
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But he hasn't entered a diversion program.
That's where I'm confused. No charges are being filed, so why would Jackson enter a diversion program?
Jackson’s case has been assigned for a pre-trial diversion program available to eligible persons as an alternative to a misdemeanor prosecution.
He's either entering one or he's going to be prosecuted. Either way, likely ends the same in Mr. Goodell's eyes.
You didn’t use the whole statement.
“This matter has been assigned for a City Attorney Hearing, a pre-filing diversion available to eligible individuals that is an alternative to misdemeanor criminal prosecution,” said Ivor Rice, a spokesperson for the Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office. “Charges are not filed against the respondent at this time, however, the case stays open throughout the length of the statute of limitations. It can be re-evaluated if there are further developments.”
It seems to me that maybe what that means is that the Attorneys office is not going forward with charges and chose to defer at this point. I could easily be reading that wrong. Possibly saying that if they decide to actually press charges, diversion is available?
I don’t know but it has gone from felony, to misdemeanor, to no charges being filed.
I’m probably wrong. But I read it as they are not charging him - but leaving it open in case some new unknown information comes out or he does something else stupid. If that occurs, then he’s looking at charges or entering the diversion program. But if nothing new pops up, it’ll go away. Almost like a probation type scenario.
Well, I interpret it the other way that he gets to enter the diversion program which is basically a kind of probation. While he does that the case stays open and if he screws up during the diversion program then it gets reopened. It's essentially pre-prosecution probation to avoid charges if he behaves while going through the program. But I'm not an expert so your interpretation could be right. /shrug
They don't prosecute for Misdemeanors... This whole thing is stupid at this point.
From my viewpoint, three major reasons why the NFL won't suspend Alaric Jackson--
No Criminal Prosecution: The Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office bypassed formal criminal charges, assigning Jackson to a pre-filing diversion program. With no conviction or active prosecution, the league has a softer legal precedent to work with.
The Nature of the Altercation: The incident reportedly stemmed from a verbal dispute where Jackson attempted to snatch a phone, resulting in minor scratches on the woman's arm. Lacking a pattern of severe physical violence, the NFL may deem a fine more appropriate than a multi-game suspension.
The Star-Power Equation: Historically, the NFL is calculated when disciplining elite contenders. Keeping Matthew Stafford’s primary blindside protector on the field ensures the Rams' high-octane offense remains fully intact, protecting the high-stakes narrative of a primary Super Bowl favorite.
No Criminal Prosecution: The Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office bypassed formal criminal charges, assigning Jackson to a pre-filing diversion program. With no conviction or active prosecution, the league has a softer legal precedent to work with.
The Nature of the Altercation: The incident reportedly stemmed from a verbal dispute where Jackson attempted to snatch a phone, resulting in minor scratches on the woman's arm. Lacking a pattern of severe physical violence, the NFL may deem a fine more appropriate than a multi-game suspension.
The Star-Power Equation: Historically, the NFL is calculated when disciplining elite contenders. Keeping Matthew Stafford’s primary blindside protector on the field ensures the Rams' high-octane offense remains fully intact, protecting the high-stakes narrative of a primary Super Bowl favorite.
No sir. It's not an "either or" situation. It's a "if new information pertaining to the incident is presented". So right now no charges and AJ is not obligated to any program.
He's free and clear unless new evidence is presented.
Big difference. And you said it yourself, alternative to prosecution. He's not being prosecuted. No misdemeanor charges have been filed.
Like I said before, that may not matter to Goodell.
My issue is the Statute of limitations " clause. How fu king long is that going to be?
He's free and clear unless new evidence is presented.
Big difference. And you said it yourself, alternative to prosecution. He's not being prosecuted. No misdemeanor charges have been filed.
Like I said before, that may not matter to Goodell.
My issue is the Statute of limitations " clause. How fu king long is that going to be?
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Well, I hope you're right. I'm not committed to my position and clearly don't want it to be true but I struggle with the wording of all the articles I've read so far that doesn't make me uneasy still.