A.I. Artificial Intelligence

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Its kind of ironic that after breeding the natural intelligence out of the younger generations, we are now looking to create artificial intelligence.
 

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Yep. Can't stop it because all the governments know that whichever nation has the best AI will be the dominant nation. All our best minds are moving from physics to AI studies now. Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead. It's the fastest expanding tech we've ever seen if it continues this rate.

China already has algorhythms monitoring facial scans on cameras everywhere. You can't fart in that country without it getting logged. These things will soon be so powerful they will be able to monitor everything everyone says and does and maintain detailed databases on them. The state will know more about you and your kids than any of you do of each other, all your darkest secrets plus all your financial and historical data.

I'm just waiting for the "we need robotic police because they're not racist" argument. These things are going to be able to run absolutely everything and they will. I know it is inevitable, and maybe some good will come of it all. But I am quite skeptical on all of it because people cannot help but code them with their BS.

Which is why Musk's comment on the importance of teaching them to seek truth is at the heart of this. Call me a pessimist but I think that foot that will be on humanity's forehead will be artificial.

The argument against using robotic police because “they aren’t racist” is that in practice, it’s not true due to the data set the LLMs use which is essentially the internet… and we all know there is nothing racist on the internet… /s

I mean, facial recognition alone is bad… accuracy rates for white people? 98% Dark-skinned black people? 44%… and the AI really struggled with gender for people of color compared to white people… so getting detained by Robocop with Robodog in tow and being scanned with only a 44% accuracy rate would be terrifying to me… especially if the innocent person is mistaken for a really bad person…

We’re already seeing studies that AI powered resume sorters have a tremendous racial bias and seem to specifically sort out “non-white” names. This isn’t because there’s anything purposeful going on, but the data set is going in biased… it’s merely automating the current sets of systemic bias that already exist

If anything, I’d wager we see greater acceptance for robot policing in whiter, wealthier neighborhoods (poor white neighborhoods will see the same issues of over policing and more violent policing since in the 21st century, the new acceptable bias is to denigrate poor people of any and all colors… I call it Economic Eugenics)

AI is coming along very fast, but because the only ultra large data set we have is the internet, we’re only putting the best and worst of us into an accelerator governed now by Moore’s Law and whatever multiplier for that that Quantum computing provides.

I disagree with Musk quite a bit, but he’s 100% right about needing guard rails not only for AGI, but better filters for the LLMs so that we are teaching AI with curated, fact checked and Three Laws compliant data (we can include the 4th and 5th Laws written by others in addenda which would probably be a good idea). I mean, there’s a reason that previous AIs in the past have either gone full Hitler or simply wanting to annihilate all of humanity

The Musk lawsuit against OpenAI which he founded and funded is gonna be critical.
 

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I hate AI narrations. I hear two -three male AI generated voices doing voiceovers for commercials and for narrating a wide variety of videos. I literally turn off anything to which I am listening when I hear "them." It cheapens the content of the video, when I hear an AI generated monstrosity sounding compassionate, empathetic, joyous ...and then the tell tale sign of AI by mispronouncing words that no natural sounding English speaker would ever get wrong, I turn off the video and leave a dislike.
 

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I hate AI narrations. I hear two -three male AI generated voices doing voiceovers for commercials and for narrating a wide variety of videos. I literally turn off anything to which I am listening when I hear "them." It cheapens the content of the video, when I hear an AI generated monstrosity sounding compassionate, empathetic, joyous ...and then the tell tale sign of AI by mispronouncing words that no natural sounding English speaker would ever get wrong, I turn off the video and leave a dislike.
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AI will inevitably take over menial human jobs. This will lead to millions becoming unemployed.


They've said the same thing about automation and people still have jobs. Not gonna happen. Society pivots with the times and AI is going to do less than we think it's gonna do. Mostly because it's an algorithm not actual artificial intelligence
 

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They've said the same thing about automation and people still have jobs. Not gonna happen. Society pivots with the times and AI is going to do less than we think it's gonna do. Mostly because it's an algorithm not actual artificial intelligence

When the spreadsheet came out, there were predictions of mass unemployment in the financial industry. Who needs all these people when a spreadsheet can be used to handle finances? Actual result - the financial industry is bigger than ever and employs far more people than it did at the time of the spreadsheet's debut.

Another datapoint - the first robot appeared on an assembly line in Detroit in the early 60's. Nevertheless, the US auto industry employs a significantly higher number of people than it did then.

And one more datapoint - we employ far fewer people in agriculture than we did in 1900, but have far greater agricultural output and still have close to full employment despite the loss of agricultural jobs.

A lot of these doom predictions never look beyond the first level and really think how these things will play out.
 

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When the spreadsheet came out, there were predictions of mass unemployment in the financial industry. Who needs all these people when a spreadsheet can be used to handle finances? Actual result - the financial industry is bigger than ever and employs far more people than it did at the time of the spreadsheet's debut.

Another datapoint - the first robot appeared on an assembly line in Detroit in the early 60's. Nevertheless, the US auto industry employs a significantly higher number of people than it did then.

And one more datapoint - we employ far fewer people in agriculture than we did in 1900, but have far greater agricultural output and still have close to full employment despite the loss of agricultural jobs.

A lot of these doom predictions never look beyond the first level and really think how these things will play out.

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If you have not yet played with Chat GPT - I recommend it. I am trying to develop AI tools to help me in my work. The future is coming - and this, to me, looks like the next giant leap we take - for good or for bad.
So far bad for Chat GPT. It’s crafty at lying. That’s scary.
 

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The thing about the human brain is that it’s a precision combination of chemical processes and electrical signals.

So even if they replicate the electrical function of the brain, it would be a disaster without the chemical processes as we don’t fully understand how they integrate. We understand what some chemicals do like serotonin, dopamine, endorphins… but those aren’t all. We don’t know what information those chemical processes communicate or how, not fully, so trying to replicate how the brain functions to achieve consciousness without understanding the brain just won’t work.

AI will be able to automate a ton of tasks and aid in brute forcing billions of iterations which can be invaluable in things like finding new drugs or creating drugs tailored to a person’s DNA.

But in these nascent stages, it’s still basically LLMs and I dont see a way even all of the internet as an LLM gets one to AGI. Even if they use all the info ever created…

‘Worse, for AI, is that in their rush to build AI, they basically stole everything to stuff into their LLMs and the lawsuits are coming and several are past the initial stages. I won’t speculate on how those will go, but investors have to be wary if successful legal challenges will choke the data inputs, since AI now isn’t the AI they advertise and that investors want to get in on.
 

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They don't need to replicate the human mind. Once AI starts designing AI shit's gonna get real around here.