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Ram65 said:
1) Yes, the second-round pick Bisontis has a serious injury and cannot come back this year per the IR rule. Lampkin's injury was not considered significant. The Rams were likely hoping he could come back later in the season had he passed waivers. It's not the same situation as far as valuing/protecting the second-round pick compared to an undrafted free agent out of college. They would not expose him to the waiver wire.

  • Under NFL rules, because he went straight to IR during training camp, he was officially ruled out for the entire season. Even if his MCL heals perfectly in November, he is legally barred from playing a single snap for Arizona until next year. [1, 2, 3]
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Chase Bisontis Placed On Injured Reserve After Knee Injury

Rookie guard done for season; Keys, Geers also to IR
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2) Gemini and I dropped the ball on Roberts. The Lampkin date was a typo.
That makes it only four times since 2012 that the Unwritten Rule was ignored.
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My main point is that there is no longer any rule preventing non-veterans from being put on IR prior to the season. If they thought it wasn't serious, they could have put him on IR on cut down day and used the designation to return. You already posted that in 2024 the league made a change where teams could designate up to 2 people to return on cut down day. If they really wanted him they didn't have to subject him to waivers.

teams can now place two players on injured reserve during the cutdown date who can later be designated for return during the season.
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This new tweak should allow teams to carry two players whom they don’t want to expose to waivers but would have had to in the past because of the old rule.
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PhillyRam said:
I think they took Lampkin partially because I don't think they were happy when we picked up McMahon a yr earlier. The local beat writers thought McMahon would make their roster. They tried to get him to their PS with your basic waiver then re-sign, but the Rans signed him to their active roster. All legit, no "rules" broken, but I think that didn't sit well with Roseman.
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Roseman lover.
 
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Coliseum Ram said:
Should be a ban on any and all gentlemen/unwritten rules. If you love a player so much, roster him, then IR him. No shenanigans.

Example: lets say Dean Connors shows out in preseason Week 2. Rams love him. Then tears his ACL Week 3 and is out for the year. If you LOVE him enough and think he cam still be a strong contributor to the 2027 team and beyond, DONT WAIVE HIM then. If you waive him, you risk. And also, didn't know that, as Philly pointed out, it was the Rams that may started have this quagmire. But again, Rams did NOTHING wrong in claiming a player another team wants on PS that they then put on an ACTIVE roster. All these teams need to stop crying and just follow procedural rules.
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I thought you said you were stepping away from this tired take. Do us a favor and help put out any remaining embers.
 
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My main point is that there is no longer any rule preventing non-veterans from being put on IR prior to the season. If they thought it wasn't serious, they could have put him on IR on cut down day and used the designation to return. You already posted that in 2024 the league made a change where teams could designate up to 2 people to return on cut down day. If they really wanted him they didn't have to subject him to waivers.
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Thanks for pointing that out. The Rams chose Murch and Hunter Long to go to IR that year. It's only two players.



Coliseum Ram said:
Should be a ban on any and all gentlemen/unwritten rules. If you love a player so much, roster him, then IR him. No shenanigans.

Example: lets say Dean Connors shows out in preseason Week 2. Rams love him. Then tears his ACL Week 3 and is out for the year. If you LOVE him enough and think he cam still be a strong contributor to the 2027 team and beyond, DONT WAIVE HIM then. If you waive him, you risk. And also, didn't know that, as Philly pointed out, it was the Rams that may started have this quagmire. But again, Rams did NOTHING wrong in claiming a player another team wants on PS that they then put on an ACTIVE roster. All these teams need to stop crying and just follow procedural rules.
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I'm assuming you mean the Eagles did nothing wrong.

That's the entire point of the discussion. Legally and technically, they did nothing wrong.

Again, I think the Rams, some of their fans, and NFL GMs have a reason to be unhappy with their decision. I wonder if we will see other teams follow the Eagles and make similar waiver-wire pickups.

I'm done...................................
 
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Ram65 said:
Thanks for pointing that out. The Rams chose Murch and Hunter Long to go to IR that year. It's only two players.
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Long wasn't on the team last season. He signed with the Jags in free agency. They didn't put any player on IR on cut down day. They had options, 3, to keep Lampkin.

Cut down day 08/26
Waived, No Recall OL A.J. Arcuri, OL Wyatt Bowles, WR Britain Covey, WR Tru Edwards, DT Jack Heflin, S Tanner Ingle, OLB Brennan Jackson, CB Derion Kendrick, CB Cam Lampkin, OL Dylan McMahon, OLB Jamil Muhammad, ILB Elias Neal, DL Bill Norton, ILB Chris "Pooh" Paul Jr., WR Brennan Presley, TE Mark Redman, RB Ronnie Rivers, RB Cody Schrader, WR Drake Stoops, S Nate Valcarcel, RB Jordan Waters, CB Charles Woods.

Terminated, Vested Veteran, all contracts CB A.J. Green.

Waived/Injured OL Willie Lampkin IV, CB Shaun Jolly
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Merlin said:
Roseman lover.
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I know that was sarcasm.... and yeah, I get tired of the "Howie is cooking" crap. The guy just uses the credit card approach to the cap, hoping it keeps increasing enough to avert disaster down the road.
 
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PhillyRam said:
I think they took Lampkin partially because I don't think they were happy when we picked up McMahon a yr earlier. The local beat writers thought McMahon would make their roster. They tried to get him to their PS with your basic waiver then re-sign, but the Rans signed him to their active roster. All legit, no "rules" broken, but I think that didn't sit well with Roseman.
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So Roseman fights "fair" with "unfair"?

If I'm Snead, I'd poach his player when the next opportunity arose whether I liked him or not. I'm petty like that.
 
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Coliseum Ram said:
If I was FORCED to get one, i would get:

Current- DeJean 32
Former- Jackson 29

Gimme yours, all.....
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If I was FORCED to get one and - to my utmost disgust - actually wear it, I'd get "Fuck Philly" as the name. With the number being 666.

Only reason I'll ever go to Philly is to try a cheesesteak. That's it. I don't even want to drink the same water that those filthy degenerates drink; there's probably something toxic and/or hallucinogenic in it.

And that's the Eagles jersey. None of you even want to know what I'd put on the jersey if I was forced to buy or (fucking kill me) wear a 69ers, Rainy City Bitch Pigeons, or Cheatriots jersey, but I'd definitely burn the jersey immediately after (don't care how much I paid for it; it's too much for my dignity), and shower ten times, each an hour long, after wearing them. And I'd still feel dirty after all of that.

Also, it would be something similar with any team other than this one. The Rams are all I care about when it comes to professional football. Fuck everyone else.
 
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