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I kind of like the new Vikings uniform. It's certainly better than the ugly christmas sweaters that the Giants will be wearing.

Looks like puke on the living room rug color combination. Fucking terrible. Glad I don't have to endure that bullshit.
 

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Generally speaking a high talent level plus top end coaching are a combination worth betting on. When that equation is there the way it will usually fail is if a player doesn't have the drive. I don't know that I'd go to that level with Herbert. He seems like a guy who does the work.

So I do think the criticism is fair, but going forward if he's going to finally start showing out at this level it will be under Harbaugh. I would suspect maybe he tops out as a second tier type QB, of which there are many, but Harbaugh knows how to protect the QB schematically and he has that philosophical strength with the run game belief. So what we know right now is Herbert will get the type of dominant run game that tends to elevate second tier type QBs. Which means he should win a ton of games under Harbaugh.

I would put him somewhere around Goff. In that lump of QBs who can win with a run game, but what happens deep in the playoffs when that run game gets taken away.
 

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Looks like puke on the living room rug color combination. Fucking terrible. Glad I don't have to endure that bullshit.
The Giants have become pretty much unwatchable, so it's kind of cool they designed uni's to match
 

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I kind of like the new Vikings uniform. It's certainly better than the ugly christmas sweaters that the Giants will be wearing.

Bro seriously? A generic ass Wolverine Jersey? lmao The colors don't even come close to matching!

We have the best Uniform history in the NFL and it's not even close!
 

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Generally speaking a high talent level plus top end coaching are a combination worth betting on. When that equation is there the way it will usually fail is if a player doesn't have the drive. I don't know that I'd go to that level with Herbert. He seems like a guy who does the work.

So I do think the criticism is fair, but going forward if he's going to finally start showing out at this level it will be under Harbaugh. I would suspect maybe he tops out as a second tier type QB, of which there are many, but Harbaugh knows how to protect the QB schematically and he has that philosophical strength with the run game belief. So what we know right now is Herbert will get the type of dominant run game that tends to elevate second tier type QBs. Which means he should win a ton of games under Harbaugh.

I would put him somewhere around Goff. In that lump of QBs who can win with a run game, but what happens deep in the playoffs when that run game gets taken away.
Herbert is a good quarterback. The whole Chargers team had enough talent. But they never just seem to win as much as you would expect. How much of that is Herbert? How much of that was coaching? I guess we will see with Harbaugh. He's a proven coach. Can he take them to the next level?
 

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I guess we will see with Harbaugh. He's a proven coach. Can he take them to the next level?
I really doubted Harbaugh at Michigan I didn't think after getting his ass kicked multiple times against Ohio State early, he would be able to get that program to an elite level, but he did. So I expect the same result with the Chargers and I do look at Justin Herbert as an upper tier signal caller too and was the reason that Harbaugh took that job.
 

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IDK, i have been wearing Khakis and red for years, especially when I play golf.
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Always suspected Waller was a shitter.