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That should not be in blue font or changed a little bit.

Almost every punt to us last year had us catching the ball inside the 20 or going into the end zone.

I don't see this changing much.

All you need is someone who can fair catch when that happens.
* Cooper Kupp steps from the shadows...

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I believe there very well might be talent in this Wide Out cadre FarNorth yet.

But until Snead/McVay can put together at least an average blocking NFL OL :laugh4:to protect #9 you could have 4 all pro WR's on the field but #9 can't get the ball out to them. #9 was more molested in 2022 than I can ever recall what he went through in Detroit.

Then you add the very big fact, McVay has not shown any ability to develop a running game without a Jeff Fisher-drafted healthy Gurley either.

Plenty of bad :crap:here to spread, to get on the coaches, players & GM for what we saw going down on the field in 2022. From my point of view, it all started with the lack of talent in the OL.

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Allen
Shelton
Jackson
Anchrum
Bruss
Havenstein
Arcuri
Thomas

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David Edwards
Bobby Evans
Jeremiah Kolone
Matt Skura
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That's a whole lot of mediocre right there. Both lists.
 

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I think you missed the point of this sarcasm. The OP is saying that our defense is so bad, that the other teams will be scoring touchdowns on every drive and thus no need to punt.
Oh I understood that but I just wanted to add my 2 cents to it
 

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Really? We shouldn't be churning the roster? We should be keeping guys drafted in the 2nd (1) through the 7th from 4 years ago? None of those guys we lost had a 5 year contract. We are talking about past Rams drafts that had no 1st round pick, so the stud you keep for 5 years doesn't exist. My god, it seems we're going out of our way to invent problems!!! Take a look around the NFL and see how many of the 224 guys drafted from the 2nd round down in 2019 are still with their drafting teams. I'd bet it ain't too many. If there's 50, it's only 22%. And I doubt there's 50.

And the thing is, we CAN afford classes like that. In fact we've been living off of classes 'like that' to the tune of 60-38. Give us 4 years and then please, go out and give us a comp pick.
I don't think it's about affording or paying that draft class, it's just that we couldn't find a player worth keeping that makes it disgusting. Oh well, on to the next one and hopefully we are lucky this go round because we really need it.
 

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I thought that this article below was just plain silly

and just might have been authored by Mr. Teabags......

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-bxFE_DpQU
 
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I thought that this article below was just plain silly

and just might have been authored by Mr. Teabags......

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-bxFE_DpQU

Can you explain why you think that article is silly

Because I agree with a lot of the statements in that article

And I think a lot of other fans in this forum agree with it too
 

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Can you explain why you think that article is silly

Because I agree with a lot of the statements in that article

And I think a lot of other fans in this forum agree with it too
Sure Tano....:cheers2:

You will find ZERO bargains during this Free Agency Period. You overpay for everything. I love Snead's master plan thus far....maybe I should have posted this in the Thread "Do the Rams have a Plan"?


Basic real old-timers math for me ...... you ran the tread off your recap tires, your pockets are empty & all your credit cards are past due & maxed out ..........you don't decide to go shopping in
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In addition, I do believe the Ram's official 2023 written objective goals plan had very few comments in the section on "Initial March UFA'cy".

I would bet the section plan addressing after the conclusion of the Initial UFA time period is rather large. (when signing UFA's do not impact the Compensatory Awarded Draft Selections for 2024)

The next big section is what the Rams are planning on doing when the 2023 Preseason has concluded & how the Rams will be dissecting all the other 31 teams' roster cuts just before the regular season begins.;)
 
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Can you explain why you think that article is silly

Because I agree with a lot of the statements in that article

And I think a lot of other fans in this forum agree with it too
I guess if fans are looking for an answer to wether or not the Rams could sign some more free agents, then it’s an informative enough piece. But if it takes 8 million to sign a free agent class, then can they really pick anyone up without a restructure from somewhere else.
 

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Would love to see the WRs step up, and you're right to point out the oline not protecting Stafford and lack of a running game. But I would still like to see the Rams add a real No. 2 receiver. Another serious threat in addition to Kupp. Don't see that in our current WRs. But the guys we have would be very capable as long as we are not depending on them to be big time playmakers on their own.
I can't recall who had the metric, but it showed that ARob was one of the most open receivers in the league last year. Stafford just had eyes for Kupp only. Most of that blame lies with the OL and Lord Evans, but, it does show that ARob is actually a good #2. Staff just needs to look for him.
 

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Not shocking going back with Aaron Kromer, but I'm glad the Rams passed here because the concussions for an offensive lineman are problematic and I for one would like to look at others like Zach Thomas & Logan Bruss plus whatever draft choices come in.
I do find former college-starting LT Zac Thomas interesting.

The former 2022 Bears 5th rd selection has his injury-free rookie season behind him now & might be a good fit to fight over the LG vacancy. I do not see any comments in ROD on Thomas other than you & me.
 

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I do find former college-starting LT Zac Thomas interesting.

The former 2022 Bears 5th rd selection has his injury-free rookie season behind him now & might be a good fit to fight over the LG vacancy. I do not see any comments in ROD on Thomas other than you & me.

Until we actually see him it's pretty tough to come up with much of an evaluation. Bruss is in a somewhat similar situation, although drafted a bit higher, but the little we did see wasn't very encouraging. Rams fans have been disappointed with over-hyped OL lineman before, maybe the lack of discussion is based on the 'fool me once' doctrine.

Zac Thomas :

Strengths​

  • Gets everything out of his adequate size and frame with good length. Added bulk to his frame and flashes functional strength to get a good push in the run game.
  • Dips shoulder and moves his feet to get outside leverage when needed. Strong and low coming out of his stance, effective in short-yardage situations.
  • Good natural athleticism, knee bend and fluid lateral movement to mirror college defensive ends.
  • Plays with appropriate wide base and intelligence, instincts and agility to seal the edge. Aggressive extending with power to punch and looks comfortable in space.
  • Anchors against larger defenders in the middle; resets hands to maintain distance. Athletic enough to help on nose tackle then pick up twist or late blitzer. Mirrors quick interior rushers. Looks to help the center when uncovered.

Weaknesses​

  • Loses leverage battles and plays with high pad level. Can be late off the snap.
  • Limits ability to mirror by leaning forward with his upper body and neglecting his lower body. Not strong enough and remains rough around the edges.
  • He's athletic and a pure left tackle whose high-hipped frame and waist bending might be exposed against pro pass rushers.
  • Not a natural knee-bender and gets too upright. Needs to play with better leverage and stay balanced through contact.
  • Not physically imposing and has average overall strength. Upper body gets over his feet too often and he easily loses his balance.

 

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Sure Tano....:cheers2:

You will find ZERO bargains during this Free Agency Period. You overpay for everything. I love Snead's master plan thus far....maybe I should have posted this in the Thread "Do the Rams have a Plan"?


Basic real old-timers math for me ...... you ran the tread off your recap tires, your pockets are empty & all your credit cards are past due & maxed out ..........you don't decide to go shopping in View attachment 59234

In addition, I do believe the Ram's official 2023 written objective goals plan had very few comments in the section on "Initial March UFA'cy".

I would bet the section plan addressing after the conclusion of the Initial UFA time period is rather large. (when signing UFA's do not impact the Compensatory Awarded Draft Selections for 2024)

The next big section is what the Rams are planning on doing when the 2023 Preseason has concluded & how the Rams will be dissecting all the other 31 teams' roster cuts just before the regular season begins.;)
I didn't say I agreed with everything but I do agree with the statements that the Rams are holding out from signing FA for 2023 because they do not want to affect the 2024 CAP dramatically.

They probably will sign a few FA after the draft since they do not affect comp picks either.

So it wasn't an entirely silly article just some of the article
 

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Until we actually see him it's pretty tough to come up with much of an evaluation. Bruss is in a somewhat similar situation, although drafted a bit higher
Yeah, I stopped putting much faith in "draft profiles" and on-line reports after this

"Evans had a tough task in 2018, taking over for All-American Orlando Brown at left tackle. He excelled in that role, earnings second-team All-Big 12 honors after starting all 14 games for the playoff participants. He had started across from Brown at right tackle in all 14 games as a sophomore, garnering honorable mention All-Big 12 notice. He was also an honorable mention all-conference pick his redshirt freshman campaign, starting the team's final 12 games at right tackle. Evans was a four-star recruit at Allen (Texas) High School, ranking among the top 100 overall prospects and top 10 offensive linemen. His father, Bobby Joe, was the Texas Gatorade Player of the Year in basketball, then played at Oklahoma. His brother, Tay, played linebacker for the Sooners in 2015 and 2016 before injuries ended his career."

and it continued

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Overview
Three-year starter with tackle experience on both sides who plays with excellent core strength, good hand placement and a noticeable nasty streak. Evans is below average as an athlete but makes up for it with upper-body power and solid technique. Despite being under 6-foot-5, his arm length (34 3/4 inches) might convince a team to try him at right tackle before any moves inside. He might be scheme-dependent, but strength and toughness give him a shot at becoming a good backup with eventual starter potential.
Strengths
  • Built with a stout frame and nearly 35-inch arms
  • Started at both right and left tackle and might offer swing value
  • Relatively unfazed by bull-rush attempts
  • Sticks a strong punch into the chest of incoming rushers
  • Grip strength for solid secure and mirror
  • Impressive core strength
  • Shows ability to match power for power in upper half
  • Adequate agility for short pulls
  • Well-schooled with feel for landmarks and technique
  • Good timing and radar up to second-level targets on gap runs
  • Play demeanor best described as aggressive and chippy (by who? His sister?)
Weaknesses
  • Shorter than average at the tackle spot
  • Hip tightness restricts depth of kick slides
  • Below-average quickness in race versus edge rushers
  • Shows a tendency to lunge when beaten
  • Lacks proper hip bend to drop pad level and win with leverage
  • Could struggle in generating drive movement if moved inside to guard
  • Stiff-kneed upper-body mauler on down blocks
  • Narrow drive base causes him to fall off-center from the block
  • Faces range limitations as move blocker
  • Plodding with heavy feet out in space
Sources Tell Us

"The tape (in 2018) was a little bit disappointing compared to (2017) when he was at right tackle. I would play him at right tackle before ever thinking of moving him inside. He has some limitations and you have to help him some, but he can be a player on the right side." Area scout for AFC team

I PLAN TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE AREA SCOUT FOR NFL TEAMS and not Zierlein or Kiper or McShay. It seems every draft report has somewhat glowing positives and somewhat damning negatives.
 

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I didn't say I agreed with everything but I do agree with the statements that the Rams are holding out from signing FA for 2023 because they do not want to affect the 2024 CAP dramatically.

They probably will sign a few FA after the draft since they do not affect comp picks either.

So it wasn't an entirely silly article just some of the article
Understood.

Since the article targeted the frustrations of Ram fans at this time due to the lack of signings that's where my thoughts on pure silliness enter the picture. Obviously you looked further than this moment in time.

Do you have a good silly walk ready to be enhanced with government funds?:laugh2:

As I stated above Snead/McVay are sure to have their offensive revised plan built & completed on what they need to attack after the draft. Snead's best work seems to always come to the 48 hrs after the NFL draft with his successful UDFAs.

This year is different as mentioned recently in ROD that the Rams will this time be up in the front role instead of the rear outside alley when team cuts take place when the regular season begins ready to grasp the best parts of the new FA'cy meal. Snead will take advantage of this big. Count on it!
 
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