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The question that's been asked by a thousand Rams fans is do with think McVay will fire his best buddy?

HECK NO!!! Btw - STAley sucks Rocky Mountain Oysters so Man gingo would be a perfect fit as DC.

To each his own,but Mcvay hired him because of the HC who just got fired.
 

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You think they'd bag him for Lynn? I dont. I'm a big Anthony Lynn fan, think he got a raw deal in Detroit seeing how well those RB's performed. But I think the Rams have a darned good RB coach I'd take over Lynn
The offense in Detroit and Goff's play improved quite significantly after Campbell took play-calling duties away from Lynn.
Firing SpielGod!?!?:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Remember when Vikings fans were calling him that?

Just dumb

Reunite Goff with the complex offense he struggled with in LA? I think KISS is a better option.
I don't think it was the offense that was the problem. Goff thrived in it in 2017 and 2018 (and arguably 2019).
 

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I would love it if we could get Callahan. We definitely need more focus on the run game, which would actually be beneficial for what McVay wants to do in the passing game. I'd love it if the Rams could become a modern version of the Redskins under Joe Gibbs, when they had the Hogs and a great power running game married to a very dynamic passing attack.
Interesting comparison there to Gibbs. He does have a lot in common with him, given that they're from different systems. McVay is sort of like an Air Coryell guy in a WCO package. Philosophically he loves to use the deep game to stretch the field, which is not a common theme of the WCO roots.

He's like a Gibbs from another mother(system) who hasn't learned to love the run game enough. Yet.
 

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I suspect McVay will let O'Connell leave this offseason. Seems to me at least that he needs someone who has a stronger run game grasp. I am guessing that our OL coach handles those responsibilities btw. But it would be nice for McVay to get a better all-around OC underneath him.

My hope is he hires Jay Gruden. But an OC with a good OL background would be nice too. Guy like Doug Marrone would be ideal IMO. Or maybe even an old OL coach friend like Callahan. Callahan would require the Browns to allow him to take an OC job which seems unlikely but never know.
I dont think he's a commodity this year. I think last year he got the call because of Staley. We'll see. That said, I dont see Mc going for a seasoned guy, although the Callahan move would work because he'd be a guy who wouldnt be calling plays and could focus on run game/o-line. And since he'd be up for OC job, Browns couldnt block
 

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Interesting comparison there to Gibbs. He does have a lot in common with him, given that they're from different systems. McVay is sort of like an Air Coryell guy in a WCO package. Philosophically he loves to use the deep game to stretch the field, which is not a common theme of the WCO roots.

He's like a Gibbs from another mother(system) who hasn't learned to love the run game enough. Yet.

We should force McVay, Clockwork Orange style, to watch some of the film of the 80's Redskins. Gibbs won Super Bowls with Theissmann, Doug Williams, and Mark Rypien, none of whom has as much talent as Stafford.
 

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hard to fathom why Flores got canned. The only reason I can think of is Belichek was mad about the 2 victories over the Patriots this year
 

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The offense in Detroit and Goff's play improved quite significantly after Campbell took play-calling duties away from Lynn.
Personally, I think the addition of Josh Reynolds is what opened the door for that offense, particularly St Brown, but it is what it is. Lynn can definitely get a ground game going, that's for sure
 

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We should force McVay, Clockwork Orange style, to watch some of the film of the 80's Redskins. Gibbs won Super Bowls with Theissmann, Doug Williams, and Mark Rypien, none of whom has as much talent as Stafford.
That offensive line was so good, they'd have won a Superbowl with Sean Mannion much less Stafford. You saw what Gibbs was like with just 1 all pro Olineman in his return
 

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The offense in Detroit and Goff's play improved quite significantly after Campbell took play-calling duties away from Lynn.

I don't think it was the offense that was the problem. Goff thrived in it in 2017 and 2018 (and arguably 2019).
Yes he did when defenses didn’t start confusing him and pressuring him to make quick decisions. I think he benefits from a more simplified scheme.
 

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Yes he did when defenses didn’t start confusing him and pressuring him to make quick decisions. I think he benefits from a more simplified scheme.
Our scheme isn't very complex. As McVay says, it's an illusion of complexity.
 

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We should force McVay, Clockwork Orange style, to watch some of the film of the 80's Redskins. Gibbs won Super Bowls with Theissmann, Doug Williams, and Mark Rypien, none of whom has as much talent as Stafford.
I understand where you are coming from - but dominant running teams don't have a track record of winning the super bowl in the last 25 years. - Whats not a fallacy is having a dominant run defense.

The nfl playoffs are filled with teams that don't allow rushing yards - so you might be able to win a game or two that way- but eventually your Qb and pass game are going to have to get it done.

Just look at our 2018 super bowl run - the cowboys were middle of the pack run defense so we got them for 186.

However when we got to the super bowl the patriots were the #2 rush defense in the nfl - so eventually we had to throw and we couldn't make it happen.
 
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That didn’t take long.
I don't know a single dolphins fan among the dozen or so I'm friends with or the ones I've seen online that aren't pissed off about the firing of Flores. He'll be a coach again soon IMO.
 

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I don't know a single dolphins fan among the dozen or so I'm friends with or the ones I've seen online that aren't pissed off about the firing of Flores. He'll be a coach again soon IMO.
Same here, that came out of no where. The Bears would do well to wrap him up and not let him get out of the building without a contract.
 

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Interview 2 coaches that work with Rodgers to get them in as the first step in trying to get Rodgers to come to your team. Bold strategy Cotton.
 

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I understand where you are coming from - but dominant running teams don't have a track record of winning the super bowl in the last 25 years. - Whats not a fallacy is having a dominant run defense.

The nfl playoffs are filled with teams that don't allow rushing yards - so you might be able to win a game or two that way- but eventually your Qb and pass game are going to have to get it done.

I've been discussing this with @Merlin on another thread, you should read those posts. I don't expect McVay to turn into a run-first guy, nor would I even want him too. But I provided a couple examples over there of instances where teams have married power running with a dynamic passing attack, and that I think is something that can be done.

There is no disagreement between us on you last point, re: you need a QB and a pass game that can get it done in playoff crunch time. Following the Rams in the 70's taught me that. But observing teams like the Redskins under Joe Gibbs (his first run with them) also taught me that you can combine power running and dynamic passing in the same offense and have success. If you look at the QB's with which he won three Super Bowls (none of whom is as good as our current QB1), that only underscores the point.