Why the 9ers Own Us

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Maybe you've seen this, but I watched this for the first time today and it sheds some light on the working relationship/dynamics of McVay and Shanahan based on those early years with the Redskins. It's like issues you've had with your brother/sister still surfacing decades later.

I no longer wonder why McVay soils his pants when they play each other. I hope he gets over it soon because I really don't want to count on our "We'll get them in playoffs" plan.


View: https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/34909779
 

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Maybe you've seen this, but I watched this for the first time today and it sheds some light on the working relationship/dynamics of McVay and Shanahan based on those early years with the Redskins. It's like issues you've had with your brother/sister still surfacing decades later.

I no longer wonder why McVay soils his pants when they play each other. I hope he gets over it soon because I really don't want to count on our "We'll get them in playoffs" plan.


View: https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/34909779

I don’t get the point. Shanahan studies McVay and LaFluer too.

I just think Shanahan is better at making half time adjustments and exploiting weaknesses. This time Shanahan went to a cover two and brought down an extra guy on the DLine. McVay has never come up with a solution to that, especially in the run game. He is married to the belief in his system and that if perfectly executed it will prevail. His flaw is that it is a lot harder for players to perfectly execute it on either side of the ball. He needs to figure out how to have an answer that can quickly make the opponent regret putting 6 on the line. He can’t just rely on the greatness of Kupp and Stafford all the time to bail him out.

McVay does not have an equal offensive mind to Shanahan’s.
 

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He is married to the belief in his system and that if perfectly executed it will prevail.

I think there is something to this. He apparently has never heard the Mike Tyson axiom of "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." We get punched in the mouth by these guys over and over and yet McVay sticks with the same stuff that didn't work against them.
 

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This is just rubbing it in imo. I know you don't mean to but now mcvay is scared of his buddy?
 

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This is just rubbing it in imo. I know you don't mean to but now mcvay is scared of his buddy?
Didn't mean to rub it in. Was mostly sharing an epiphany (that you might not believe is accurate). But when watching that video, I see how they interact and it clearly has that jedi knight/padawan vibe.

Being his buddy has nothing to do with it. It's the dynamic. I'd say the same for his vibe with Belicheat, and I KNOW they are not buddies with a shared work history.
 

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He's not scared, but holy hell evidently they know us better than we know them.
Why does Son of Ratboy suck vs every team but the Rams? Because he doesn't know those other teams enough.
With 2 weeks for this coaching staff to fucking prepare, there's no god damn excuse!
If they know what you're going to do on O, why do it? Do the Rams even watch themselves for tendencies?
If they know you fall for fakes on D, why get faked? That's 2 non-QB TD passes too many recently.

Bottom line worth repeating:
Son of Ratboy knows what McVay likes to do and McVay hasn't figured out his BFF yet.
 

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That's 2 non-QB TD passes too many recently.
Three

One against SF in game 18 - one against the Bengals in the you know what - one yesterday

And yes - someone needs to be yelled at for allowing 3 within a year - that is completely unacceptable

Or are you allowing the first one as "okay - you got us this time but you won't fool us again"
 

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Three

One against SF in game 18 - one against the Bengals in the you know what - one yesterday

And yes - someone needs to be yelled at for allowing 3 within a year - that is completely unacceptable
Scott got burned on two of them, for sure.. Yesterday and the Super Bowl.
I can't remember what happened on the one Deebo threw.
 

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The 9ers know they're going to win when the schedule comes out.
This was the vibe I remember in the days before "Montana to Rice/Taylor".

From '67 to '80, the Rams went like 26-3-1 against the 4-and-9ers.

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Didn't mean to rub it in. Was mostly sharing an epiphany (that you might not believe is accurate). But when watching that video, I see how they interact and it clearly has that jedi knight/padawan vibe.

Being his buddy has nothing to do with it. It's the dynamic. I'd say the same for his vibe with Belicheat, and I KNOW they are not buddies with a shared work history.
I'm sorry. Guess I shouldn't have stated it that way. But I just wanna forget about yesterday and hopefully get some wins.
 

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Three

One against SF in game 18 - one against the Bengals in the you know what - one yesterday

And yes - someone needs to be yelled at for allowing 3 within a year - that is completely unacceptable

Or are you allowing the first one as "okay - you got us this time but you won't fool us again"
3???

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This was the vibe I remember in the days before "Montana to Rice/Taylor".

From '67 to '80, the Rams went like 26-3-1 against the 4-and-9ers.

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Yeah I enjoyed many whiner turkey teams from '76-'80. They were so bad it was a fun time. If someone told me then that a 17 and then an 8 game reg season losing streak would happen in the future I would've laughed at 'em. So for me starting off anti-whiner and trashing them regularly I still cannot accept losing to them this many times. The big question is when will it be stopped and even turned around? Sick of this shit.
 

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They own us because they have a dawg mentality. They're a physical, tough team and wants to punch you in the face.

Meanwhile we ALWAYS cower down to those types of teams. It's a huge mentality thing.
 

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There are always moments in games and seasons where you need physical toughness in the trenches. McSnead don’t want to make that investment, at least offensively.
 

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My feeble observation is -- they have f'n road graders on both sides... Lined up against our lines that can't hold up...
 

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They own us because they have a dawg mentality. They're a physical, tough team and wants to punch you in the face.

Meanwhile we ALWAYS cower down to those types of teams. It's a huge mentality thing.

But they don't seem to have near that much mentality against anybody else beside us, and have proven to be beatable by lesser teams.
 

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But they don't seem to have near that much mentality against anybody else beside us, and have proven to be beatable by lesser teams.
I don't know, I feel like I see that mentality against most teams we play that are dawgs. The Jets, Titans, Bills, 9ers, DAL.
 

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Ita not a coaching thing imo, it's a PHILOSOPHY thing. The 9ers are PHYSICAL... We haven't been like that since Jeff Fisher left.