Tons of Burns talk why not Chubb?

[Malibu]

Bradley Chubb 6'4" 275 has the highest win rate this year as a DE in the NFL he has 5.5 sacks this year will cost a lot less than Burns who has the 6th highest win rate and 4 sacks.

The knock on Chubb is he has been injured a bunch (missed 24 games since 2019) but at a way more reasonable price than Burns. Supposedly the Eagles and Chiefs are interested in Burns. Eagles have 2 first rounders alone next year we can't compete. Maybe it's time to look at this differently. Chubb in some eyes would say he is not as good as Burns but the cost analysis benefit may outweigh the player in Burns.

The Rams objective is to get better on the Edge and Chubb will do that. We can maybe still get OBJ and a RB. We are not 1 player away like last year.

This is his last year on a 12m+ season.

This is the play we are not tied into his huge salary and maybe he is a less expensive rental than Von or maybe we resign him for 3 years. He is only 2 years older than Burns at 26.

By every metric this year he is having his best year from sacks, pressures, win rate and hits.

 

[oldnotdead]

I think the Rams are dangling Akers in any deal. Akers, a second round pick next year and a 2024 first and third round pick. Akers fills the hole left by the McCaffery trade. The same could be said for Chubb. Chubb doesn't have the injury history that would make me think twice. I think the Rams are probably shopping both the Broncos and Panthers. Just because it's not in the media doesn't mean the Rams aren't back rooming it. I think my friend in Denver was right that the Rams might have made an inquiry to the Broncos.

Personally, I would be ecstatic if the Rams can pull off a Burns trade. But I would be almost equally happy with Chubb. The Rams can afford Burn's cap hit this year and they can work out an extension for next year and beyond. IMO either Burns or Chubb would be the difference maker they need to complete the defense.

Shelton is scheduled back probably for the Cardinal or Saint games in Nov.

 

[OldSchool]

Brand new owners in Denver, new coach and they went all in with trading for Wilson. That doesn't usually signal a team selling players. They're in it for better or worse this season IMO but stranger things have happened.

 

[TexasRam]

I’m all for it.

We need an impact pass rusher to make a real run. Without it we ain’t doing shit.

The Offense will probably settle down once the Oline gets healthy.

Chubb could fit the bill but will the Broncos be interested? They are about to be 2-5 after the Jets pounce them. Maybe.

 

[Malibu]

Brand new owners in Denver, new coach and they went all in with trading for Wilson. That doesn't usually signal a team selling players. They're in it for better or worse this season IMO but stranger things have happened.

They have Browning and now Gregory plus they have to pay Chubb who may NOT resign with them next year he is a UFA next off-season. They have only 5 draft picks next year none in the first or second round and they are 2-4 and Wilson is out against the Jets it looks like. They are in the toughest division in football so I think they could trade Chubb more than Carolina wants to trade a potential cornerstone in Burns.

 

[snackdaddy]

Getting an edge rusher the caliber of those guys would definitely help the pass rush. Make an already good defense even better. Its probably the area we need to improve most. Mainly because we can upgrade with better talent.

I gotta be honest though. My biggest worry would giving up some of the few resources we have for a rental and the offensive line keeps us from winning enough games. If they can't get the guys they have on the line to improve then it won't matter what they do with the defense. Scoring 10 or 15 points is not gonna win many games. Trying to plug mid level vets that teams want to unload may not help. How long would it take to develop that much needed continuity?

 

[Ram Ts]

They have Browning and now Gregory plus they have to pay Chubb who may NOT resign with them next year he is a UFA next off-season. They have only 5 draft picks next year none in the first or second round and they are 2-4 and Wilson is out against the Jets it looks like. They are in the toughest division in football so I think they could trade Chubb more than Carolina wants to trade a potential cornerstone in Burns.

Or maybe they will take one or more players who can help them win this year (or next). Akers, Lewis, Hopkins, TuTu, Rapp, etc. One or more could be used as trade bait to Denver for Chubb - who could help them this year and next. Plus a pick maybe too.

 

[Malibu]

Getting an edge rusher the caliber of those guys would definitely help the pass rush. Make an already good defense even better. Its probably the area we need to improve most. Mainly because we can upgrade with better talent.

I gotta be honest though. My biggest worry would giving up some of the few resources we have for a rental and the offensive line keeps us from winning enough games. If they can't get the guys they have on the line to improve then it won't matter what they do with the defense. Scoring 10 or 15 points is not gonna win many games. Trying to plug mid level vets that teams want to unload may not help. How long would it take to develop that much needed continuity?

The problem I foresee is it is very hard to find IOL at the trade deadline that would need to be infinitely better than what we have now.

 

[Memento]

Getting an edge rusher the caliber of those guys would definitely help the pass rush. Make an already good defense even better. Its probably the area we need to improve most. Mainly because we can upgrade with better talent.

I gotta be honest though. My biggest worry would giving up some of the few resources we have for a rental and the offensive line keeps us from winning enough games. If they can't get the guys they have on the line to improve then it won't matter what they do with the defense. Scoring 10 or 15 points is not gonna win many games. Trying to plug mid level vets that teams want to unload may not help. How long would it take to develop that much needed continuity?

It's possible we go all in again and go for an edge rusher and offensive line and running back help. Just saying.

 

[Malibu]

It's possible we go all in again and go for an edge rusher and offensive line and running back help. Just saying.

Denver has mentioned Dalton Risner their LG as possible trade material except he is having a bad year.

 

[OldSchool]

They have Browning and now Gregory plus they have to pay Chubb who may NOT resign with them next year he is a UFA next off-season. They have only 5 draft picks next year none in the first or second round and they are 2-4 and Wilson is out against the Jets it looks like. They are in the toughest division in football so I think they could trade Chubb more than Carolina wants to trade a potential cornerstone in Burns.

Very possible they do. Chubb is better than both of those though he's had soem injuries. Browning has a ways to go to be on the same level. They could trade him as I said stranger things have happened.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I think there has been speculation on Bradley Chubb.

One problem is that Chubb is an unrestricted free agent after the season; and would almost certainly garner a 2024 third round compensatory pick. So there may be an incentive for Denver to just hold onto him unless it can pry a 2023 second round draft choice. That is a gamble for the acquiring team because it's tough to give-up a second rounder for a 10-11 game rental.

The Rams gambled last year, and Von Miller was terrific in the post-season and key to the Super Bowl win.

Now Chubb is a different situation in that Miller, because of his years of experience could not provide a comp-pick higher than a fifth round draft choice. As such, Denver was motivated to move Miller and pay most of his remaining salary because it received-back second and third round picks.

Now I would definitely trade the Rams' 2023 third round selection and Cam Akers for Chubb because he could be a huge asset; and, even if he leaves as a free agent, the Rams would likely re-coup a 2024 third round comp pick. I don't think Denver does that deal. Should the Rams offer their 2023 second round draft choice plus Akers? I don't know.

 

[Memento]

Denver has mentioned Dalton Risner their LG as possible trade material except he is having a bad year.

If we're really getting Chubb and Risner, that's fine. I'd go ahead and add Eyioma Uwazurike to the trade list and give them Akers. You know, kill three birds with one stone.

 

[PhillyRam]

I think there has been speculation on Bradley Chubb.

One problem is that Chubb is an unrestricted free agent after the season; and would almost certainly garner a 2024 third round compensatory pick. So there may be an incentive for Denver to just hold onto him unless it can pry a 2023 second round draft choice. That is a gamble for the acquiring team because it's tough to give-up a second rounder for a 10-11 game rental.

The Rams gambled last year, and Von Miller was terrific in the post-season and key to the Super Bowl win.

Now Chubb is a different situation in that Miller, because of his years of experience could not provide a comp-pick higher than a fifth round draft choice. As such, Denver was motivated to move Miller and pay most of his remaining salary because it received-back second and third round picks.

Now I would definitely trade the Rams' 2023 third round selection and Cam Akers for Chubb because he could be a huge asset; and, even if he leaves as a free agent, the Rams would likely re-coup a 2024 third round comp pick. I don't think Denver does that deal. Should the Rams offer their 2023 second round draft choice plus Akers? I don't know.

Was just going to post essentially the same sentiment. At least with Chubb you would get a higher comp pick than Miller, barring another injury.

So thanks for saving me the time.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Was just going to post essentially the same sentiment. At least with Chubb you would get a higher comp pick than Miller, barring another injury.

So thanks for saving me the time.

I'm here for you man.

 

[Merlin]

Denver has mentioned Dalton Risner their LG as possible trade material except he is having a bad year.

I'd love to have him on our roster. That entire line is having a bad year so when that happens it's hard to say what part he played in it. Well without nuking the shit out of their games which would be disgusting.

 

[Merlin]

As to Chubb I would take him as well. Don't like the injury history but he's in a contract year which means I suspect we'll get everything he has. But for that reason he is a rental, whereas Burns would probably get a contract from the Rams.

 

[Karate61]

Cost vs. expected results, seems Chubb is the way to go. Rams would have a SB caliber defense for the remainder of 2022.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Denver has mentioned Dalton Risner their LG as possible trade material except he is having a bad year.

I was thinking Risner was in his third year but this is his fourth season, and he is an unrestricted free agent after the season. Well regarded coming-out of college; and has started throughout his short career. Again the risk is that he could just be a rental but the acquiring team would step into the shoes of the Broncos with regard to the comp pick if Risner signs elsewhere in free agency.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I'll take any suitable edge that doesn't crater us pick wise so we can still try to get a RB. Only concerning thing with Chubb is his injury history.