Sean McVay identifies new defensive leader in wake of Aaron Donald's retirement

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Sean McVay identifies new defensive leader in wake of Aaron Donald's retirement​

While losing Aaron Donald on the defensive side of the ball has been incredibly tricky for the Los Angeles Rams to overcome, as the 10-time Pro Bowler will unquestionably go down as one of the greatest defensive linemen of all time, his impact wasn't only left on the gridiron, with the Pitt product providing just as much value as an emotional leader in the locker room.

Playing a key role as the team transitioned from St. Louis to Los Angeles and from the mediocrity of Jeff Fisher to the Super Bowl glory of Sean McVay, Donald wasn't just one of the Rams' most popular players among fans, but within the locker room too, with younger players able to lean on his as they traversed their own NFL careers.

But who will fill that role now that Donald is gone? Well, McVay was asked that very question during his Tuesday media availability session and let it be known that he likes what Kobie Turner is doing on the practice field, as he has truly taken up where his mentor AD left off.

“I've just seen him be himself. I think that's what's important. He's got such a heart for people. He loves football. He works really hard at it. You've heard me talk about the growth mindset. He definitely epitomizes that,” McVay told reporters. “So I don't want him to be anybody other than himself. I think he saw a great example of what one of the best to ever do it, if not the best, looked like. He's going to be himself, and there's certainly things that he'll take that he learned from his mentor in [Aaron Donald] ‘AD.' I want him to be authentic to his personality. He's got a great way about himself with people. He models the way, which I think is the most important thing, and that's what I've seen from him consistently day in and day out.”

After breaking out in limited action last season, recording nine sacks in just four starts – 17 appearances – while playing just 62 percent of the team's defensive snaps, Turner is the popular pick to become the Rams' next big breakout player in 2024, with an expanded role expected in both base and defensive sub-packages for Chris Shula's defense this fall. If Turner can match his 2023 production or even exceed it without Donald by his side, the Rams' defense will be in good shape moving forward, especially if he can replace Donald as a locker-room leader, too.

Later in his media availability session, McVay was asked about another young Rams defensive tackle, Braden Fiske, and how he's been able to transition to the NFL alongside his fellow Florida State product Jared Verse.

While his fellow former Seminole earns most of the headlines, McVay loves what he's seen from Fiske so far, too, noting that he believes he's ready to continue in the league right out of the gate.

“He's done a good job. I think when you look at it, you've seen three really physical offensive lines. He missed some time when he ended up coming out of the [Dallas] Cowboys practice a little bit earlier. He had the blister where he didn't practice against the [Los Angeles] Chargers,” McVay noted. “I thought he had his mind right going into that last practice against the Cowboys. Those are some great interior players. This is as good as it gets around the league, and you could see there was a focus [and] there was a concentration. There was an intent in terms of being great with his hands [and] understanding where he fits based on whatever the play was. I was really pleased with him. He's getting better and better, and conscientious players continue to improve. He's certainly one of them.”

Despite only playing one season for Florida State in college after playing parts of five seasons at Central Michigan, Fiske still flashed enough – largely playing with Verse – to garner Day 2 grades heading into the 2024 NFL draft. While the Rams paid a heavy price to move up to draft him, surrendering a 2024 second-round pick, a 2024 fifth-round pick, and, controversially, a 2025 second-round pick to secure his services, if he can contribute right away, work effortlessly next to Verse and form a bright young core alongside Turner and fellow second-year pro Byron Young, it will only set the Rams defense up for success not only in 2024 but beyond. Even if he won't be on the field with the boys any longer, something tells me Donald will appreciate that too, as he'll get to watch the next generation of Rams get it, just like his early run alongside the likes of Robert Quinn.
 

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Well no....I mean I love Kobie, but McVay was asked a question about him and responded with those points.

Ernest Jones was a starter on our Super Bowl team, is vocal and will probably call the defense....he is the clear cut leader there
 
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Well no....I mean I love Kobie, but McVay was asked a question about him and responded with those points.

Ernest Jones was a starter on our Super Bowl team, is vocal and will probably call the defense....he is the clear cut leader there
My thoughts exactly. Looking at the headline alone, I fully expected to read a nice piece about Ernest Jones. After reading the article I looked at the author and that explained a lot more.

"Matty Breisch is a multifaceted writer who specializes in WWE content at ClutchPoints. He can be read at Heavy, Fansided, Philadelphia Sports Network, and right here at ClutchPoints. Are you ready to read about wrestling? Well, you've come to the right place."

That isn't even what I would call a "click bait" post, it's just poor reporting.

All of that being said - 1) I absolutely love Kobie Turner and what he brings to the team, on and off the field; 2) Ernest Jones is the clear leader of this young defense.
 

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A lot still has to be proven with Kobie Turner, imho. Was his rookie year a product of the Aaron Donald Effect or is he just that good? A combination of both? I look forward to seeing how well he performs standing on his own.
 

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A lot still has to be proven with Kobie Turner, imho. Was his rookie year a product of the Aaron Donald Effect or is he just that good? A combination of both? I look forward to seeing how well he performs standing on his own.
I agree.
Really like Turner (and Byron Young); and I am very hopeful both will build-on the success of their rookie seasons. Like their talent, and their make-up. However, I am conscious that they were two of the older rookies last season ... Turner was 24, and Young 25. That may have helped their quick adjustment to the NFL.

On a similar but more positive note, Jared Verse and Blake Corum will both turn 24 in three months; and Braden Fiske was 24 eight months ago. At 21, Kamren Kinchens in the young guy (will turn 22 in September).
 

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It is ok to have TWO leaders on the defense. And Lord knows that Jared Verse will be talking a lot. Players will find their roles eventually. NO reason to crown "the leader" now.
 

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i think we may be jumping the gun on the EJ absolute leader takes....

i saw someone (baldy?) show clips where AD was singled and CD got the double team...several clips...

and CD got nine sacks (same as donald?) with much fewer plays...

maybe verse is gravitatibg to the leader role...

who really cares who.s the leader on D.... just win baby...

go rams

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i think we may be jumping the gun on the EJ absolute leader takes....

i saw someone (baldy?) show clips where AD was singled and CD got the double team...several clips...

and CD got nine sacks (same as donald?) with much fewer plays...

maybe verse is gravitatibg to the leader role...

who really cares who.s the leader on D.... just win baby...

go rams

slo

Do you mean KT?

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Of course we hope that MULTIPLE leaders step forward on defense. Earnest Jones had a stellar year last year with 145 tackles and 4.5 sacks. He is a solid veteran, the defensive signal caller, was on the field for 93% of the defensive snaps last year, and the players gravitate towards him (he was voted a team captain). Short of someone else stepping up to the plate, I would still call him the current leader on defense.
 

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I agree.
Really like Turner (and Byron Young); and I am very hopeful both will build-on the success of their rookie seasons. Like their talent, and their make-up. However, I am conscious that they were two of the older rookies last season ... Turner was 24, and Young 25. That may have helped their quick adjustment to the NFL.

On a similar but more positive note, Jared Verse and Blake Corum will both turn 24 in three months; and Braden Fiske was 24 eight months ago. At 21, Kamren Kinchens in the young guy (will turn 22 in September).

Well when your talking leaders on The Rams defensive Front there is a player being overlooked.
-Bobby Brown was only 20 years old when he came into the league player the G.O.A.T. He is now playing for a contract & is the elder statesman.Just saying there can be more than 1 leader.
 

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Reason for posting is thinking how great Jared Verse maybe a long with B.Fiske ?
The biggest example is like Les Snead always said.You want to see dominance just turn on the FSU vs. Louisville.He talked about the defense winning that game.
-Jared Verse sat out the bowl game,but FSU got snubbed,if anyone remembers?


From what we’ve seen & heard is that both players are delivering since being RAMS!! I saw a practice & The Rams posted this video to the TOP !!

What Verse means to The Rams is a lot.Oldschool made the prediction.I thought no way he makes it to The Rams.He himself makes Byron Young (Hoecht)that much better because he brings such stability & that Leadership.
It helps define where everyone sets up,plus The Edge he shows against a LT is going to be very visible.He is very POWERFUL & gets under the Pads of the O’Lineman.He reads plays well & will shutdown passing lanes on slants & screens.
 

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B. Fiske deserves a little love.AD99 took the time to meet & show his respects to a young DT(Ram).
It shows what Sean Mcvay has brought & instilled to his players about Leadership & giving back.It always been about WE not ME & there are countless examples.
Seeing that FSU game has to get RAM FANS EXCITED for what Fiske & Verse bring.

The Rams were very lucky to get Jared Verse in The Draft.He can easily become rookie of The Year.

The Rams because of Jared Verse moved up & gave a 2025 2nd rd pick to draft B Fiske. Those 2 players have shown to us Rams Fans how emotionally happy they are to have this opportunity to wear HORNS!!
Let’s here it for #55
Number #8 is going to make a name for himself.

Then a quiet leader type #44 as a rookie.He’s going to bring that energy & show how it’s done as a 2nd team player with Hoecht & special teams.
 

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Well when your talking leaders on The Rams defensive Front there is a player being overlooked ... Bobby Brown

OK on the leadership point but I was talking about improvement ... not leadership.

Frequently, a player shows significant improvement in his 2nd season. In the case of Turner and Young, they were both older (and perhaps more mature and full developed) players in their rookie seasons.

Both were really good as rookies. I am not sure there will be significant improvement this season. Hope so ... That would be great ... But I would be happy with performances that are comparable to last year.

One of the reasons I believe Verse and Fiske can be really good as rookies, is that they are ALSO older.

Bobby Brown is a good example of this point. As a very young rookie (barely 21), Brown hardly saw the field. Brown only played 22 snaps in 2021 ... that's half of one game. Although injuries have limited him the past two seasons, his snaps have increased; and his performance has improved ... AS HE HAS GOTTEN OLDER.
 

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OK on the leadership point but I was talking about improvement ... not leadership.

Frequently, a player shows significant improvement in his 2nd season. In the case of Turner and Young, they were both older (and perhaps more mature and full developed) players in their rookie seasons.

Both were really good as rookies. I am not sure there will be significant improvement this season. Hope so ... That would be great ... But I would be happy with performances that are comparable to last year.

One of the reasons I believe Verse and Fiske can be really good as rookies, is that they are ALSO older.

Bobby Brown is a good example of this point. As a very young rookie (barely 21), Brown hardly saw the field. Brown only played 22 snaps in 2021 ... that's half of one game. Although injuries have limited him the past two seasons, his snaps have increased; and his performance has improved ... AS HE HAS GOTTEN OLDER.
A’ Robinson was an excellent Mentor & a DT leader his first 2 seasons.
Turner without AD99 will make it harder on Kobie Turner to get his 9 sacks.He had as many as AD99 though & he should have similar numbers again.
B.Young is only going to get better & should be a better fit playing against a R-Tackle.The Rams were working him over to the Right Side as the 2023 went a long.He is NOW in a Perfect Spot(fit) to really explode working against R-Tackles.IMO with Jared Verse bring heat from the opposite side should only keep Wav’s in the pocket longer without getting outside containment.
My question to you would be at WHAT AGE is a Player in his Prime ?

-My other observation would be,what about PUKA ? IMO- we can go down the list,but mentoring,coaching,& Mcvays process should only help players become better.

Talk about Troy Reeder & Rosenboom ? Those are Shula guys & rumor is that they are helping the 2 UDRFA’s . Now talk about what they will bring as rookies,or what The Veteran LBers will bring ?
 

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We need a pole to see how many personal foul penalties every thinks that Verse can entice with his mouth.
 

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